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Quote:Yeah, he's not Marino.


Of all the QB in the NFL, Roethlisberger really is the closest comparison, IMO. They may not be identical, but similar.

He has a lot of Luck mannerisms. Especially moving in the pocket.

Quote:No, Pitt. did. The had a dominant and number 1 D. A all pro offensive line with Alan Faneca etc., Jerome Bettis, a prime Hines Ward and Plaxico Burress. Yeah I think Bortles could of done the same thing. That team was loaded

Agreed.

Quote:I think that the UCF offense was just a very conservative style. They did not play like a typical college football team that was about scoring early and often. UCF would try to run a lot and hold the time of possession lead, similar to how the NFL is run typically. Bortles was never needed to do anything eye popping which is why many people thought he was bad. But if you watched enough of the UCF games you knew he was going to be good. He could make any throw and if he needed to score in a game late he would drive down the field everytime and score.

This. O'Leary is the most conservative coach in college football.  It drove me nuts all season last year to watch us run the ball and throw dink and dunk passes all game knowing how much talent Blake had.  Then when the game was on the line he turned the ball over to Blake to go win the game.  He could have done so much more in college if he would have had the reins to do it.  Then the Texans would have picked him so you can thank O'Leary for being an old school 3 yards in a cloud of dust coach.

He's the most talented rookie QB I've seen.


I can't believe we finally got a stud qb.

He's got way more upside than more hyped players like Luck, Stafford Bradford etc

Quote:He's the most talented rookie QB I've seen.


I can't believe we finally got a stud qb.

He's got way more upside than more hyped players like Luck, Stafford Bradford etc

 

Admittedly, I only watched 2 games of Luck's during his rookie season, but I wasn't nearly as impressed with him as I am with Bortles. While I am anything but unbiased, I really do think that Bortles has looked better so far than Luck did early in his career. If he can stay on the upward trajectory that he's currently on.. man....

Quote:Admittedly, I only watched 2 games of Luck's during his rookie season, but I wasn't nearly as impressed with him as I am with Bortles. While I am anything but unbiased, I really do think that Bortles has looked better so far than Luck did early in his career. If he can stay on the upward trajectory that he's currently on.. man....

 

Luck is a good QB, and he moves around well enough I suppose. When you throw for 40+ attempts every game, it's no wonder he leads the league in total yardage. He's on pace for almost 700 attempts this year. 

People saying Bortles had nothing at UCF don't know what they're talking about. He had three good [BLEEP] receivers in Hall, Perriman, and Worton that bailed him out plenty in his two years there. Even Godfrey the dude who he took the qb job from caught some good passes throughout the year. A good defense thats been highly ranked in college the last few years. On top of that Storm Johnson was a damn good running back and was a workhorse for that team when they were there. That's been my team since Culpepper days when I was going to the Citrus Bowl to see them. Bortles can't get all the credit for their success for the past couple years. He had a team.

It would be neat if we could see a "before and after" Bortles video.

Quote:People saying Bortles had nothing at UCF don't know what they're talking about. He had three good [BAD WORD REMOVED] receivers in Hall, Perriman, and Worton that bailed him out plenty in his two years there. Even Godfrey the dude who he took the qb job from caught some good passes throughout the year. A good defense thats been highly ranked in college the last few years. On top of that Storm Johnson was a damn good running back and was a workhorse for that team when they were there. That's been my team since Culpepper days when I was going to the Citrus Bowl to see them. Bortles can't get all the credit for their success for the past couple years. He had a team.

they dropped a ton of his passes and probably wouldn't have been anything without him. there's a reason all of them are going undrafted or in the 7th round while Bortles is a top 3 pick.

It's because he sticks his tongue out.

He is willing to work and improve.  That is what is setting him apart to this point of his career.  And this is positive work not all the propaganda of the Gabbert works hard speeches.

 

Tools + Work Ethic = Bortles

 

Finally oh finally to have such a thing on our team.  Now if the rest of the team can keep up.

Regarding Ben and the 2004 Steelers.

 

When Ben came In (Game 3) the Steelers were 1-1 and just came off of a 30-13 Loss to the Ravens.   Ben had a huge impact on the Steelers in 2004 with a 93.3 passer rating.  Those who disagree are ignorant and didn't watch every game that season.   Great defense - yes.  But the difference between Ben &Maddox is eerily similar to that of Blake & Henne.  Ben averaged 267 Passing yards per game, but then again, he didn't have to air it out in the 4th quarter against prevent defenses since they did not fall behind in the games he was QB

Quote:Admittedly, I only watched 2 games of Luck's during his rookie season, but I wasn't nearly as impressed with him as I am with Bortles. While I am anything but unbiased, I really do think that Bortles has looked better so far than Luck did early in his career. If he can stay on the upward trajectory that he's currently on.. man....

 

Completely agree.

Quote:People saying Bortles had nothing at UCF don't know what they're talking about. He had three good [BAD WORD REMOVED] receivers in Hall, Perriman, and Worton that bailed him out plenty in his two years there. Even Godfrey the dude who he took the qb job from caught some good passes throughout the year. A good defense thats been highly ranked in college the last few years. On top of that Storm Johnson was a damn good running back and was a workhorse for that team when they were there. That's been my team since Culpepper days when I was going to the Citrus Bowl to see them. Bortles can't get all the credit for their success for the past couple years. He had a team.

 

We're all just homers for players in the state of Florida. - Jersey devil

Quote:they dropped a ton of his passes and probably wouldn't have been anything without him. there's a reason all of them are going undrafted or in the 7th round while Bortles is a top 3 pick.

You won't bet all of them are going undrafted and in the 7th round. If you wanna back up that joke you just told let me know. Were you saying draft Bortles before the draft? Highly doubt it.

Quote:People saying Bortles had nothing at UCF don't know what they're talking about. He had three good [BAD WORD REMOVED] receivers in Hall, Perriman, and Worton that bailed him out plenty in his two years there. Even Godfrey the dude who he took the qb job from caught some good passes throughout the year. A good defense thats been highly ranked in college the last few years. On top of that Storm Johnson was a damn good running back and was a workhorse for that team when they were there. That's been my team since Culpepper days when I was going to the Citrus Bowl to see them. Bortles can't get all the credit for their success for the past couple years. He had a team.

 

Perriman is their only competent receiver, Hall and Worton (without Bortles) are on pace for a 300 yard receiving season, they had 886 and 721 yards respectively with Bortles at the helm last year, so yea, he wasn't working with much.

Quote:Perriman is their only competent receiver, Hall and Worton (without Bortles) are on pace for a 300 yard receiving season, they had 886 and 721 yards respectively with Bortles at the helm last year, so yea, he wasn't working with much.[/size]

If you say so man. If you have a qb in Holman who was one more interception away from being benched a game ago you wouldn't shine either. Amari Cooper finished with 730 yards last year, so yeah that means nothing regarding their importance to the team.

BB most resembles Aaron Rodgers to me, big, rocket arm, mobile, smart.

Quote:If you say so man. If you have a qb in Holman who was one more interception away from being benched a game ago you wouldn't shine either. Amari Cooper finished with 730 yards last year, so yeah that means nothing regarding their importance to the team.

 

My point is both of those guys had career years with Blake Bortles under center, he obvioulsy makes guys better than what they actually are, that's my point.

Quote:It's because he sticks his tongue out.

 

LOL I only saw him do that once - before a snap at Tennessee.