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Quote:Wait, who was the OC in '15?

But he spent the off-season before in California.

I'm proud of Blake.

He represents us well.

He's humble and willing to work.

Future is bright guys....

Quote:Wait, who was the OC in '15?

Olsen wasn't hired until the end if January by then Bortles was already in or planing to be in California so Olsen didn't have much say in the matter.

What about missing wide open guys, locking into receivers and then getting baited to throw ints and pick-6s?


So this 3DQB camp will just result in prettier passes to safeties and DBs

Quote:What about missing wide open guys, locking into receivers and then getting baited to throw ints and pick-6s?


So this 3DQB camp will just result in prettier passes to safeties and DBs

1. If your foot work is off so is your acuracy which is why he missed guys



2. If your in your head the whole game worrying about your foot work you're not going to pay attention to things like second reads and underneath LB and Safetys.


3. A lot of his INTS this year were on tipped balls which were due to acuracy which is due to poor footwork.

Quote:What about missing wide open guys, locking into receivers and then getting baited to throw ints and pick-6s?


So this 3DQB camp will just result in prettier passes to safeties and DBs

 

As protozoa pointed out - the vast majority of his inaccuracy stems from the poor footwork.

 

Yes, he still made some bone-headed decisions, but those were fewer and less frequent than the stalled-drives due to plain old inaccurate passes. 

Does a QB really need to be throwing to his receivers during the offseason? Isn't that what mini and training camp is for? To get back into the groove and timing and such?

Quote:Wait, who was the OC in '15?

Olsen was. This has nothing to do with in-season. This has to do with Bortles working all offseason in Cali and getting these things down. Then, last offseason comes and Olsen says it isn't important so he doesn't go. Mechanics are something you need to work on.

Quote:Red flag ignored that he was OC for one of the worst offenses in the league the prior yr in Oakland.

Carr immediately took a leap once Olsen left.

 

Sad.

 

I'm not letting Blake off the hook though.

Injury, Olsen, etc etc... right now, we can pass the buck... find blame somewhere else.

 

But if he comes back in 2017 and can't get not only back to but better than '15, we're gonna have to move on, quickly.

He sure has been on a media campaign since the season ended painting a favorable picture (to him) of  why his season went the way it did.  I know it's difficult as a fan of a specific player or specific team not to always see things in in the best possible light when forming an opinion, but I'd urge a wait and see approach with Blake.  Let's see how he performs in the first few games of next season before we're ready to exonerate him entirely of this season's performance.  As is often quoted around here, "just because someone says something doesn't make it true."

Quote:Carr immediately took a leap once Olsen left.

 

Sad.

 

I'm not letting Blake off the hook though.

Injury, Olsen, etc etc... right now, we can pass the buck... find blame somewhere else.

 

But if he comes back in 2017 and can't get not only back to but better than '15, we're gonna have to move on, quickly.

Considering his contract will end after next season (doubt we pick up 5th yr option), I don't think you'll need to worry. Solid or better play next year or we move on.

Quote:So... Hackett... who was the QB coach.. needed to be promoted to OC before he realized the problem was his feet?

 

No, it sounds like Hackett just allowed Bortles to practice like he was taught in California. Everyone else was coaching him up differently. 

 

It also doesn't say that he didn't already know what the problem was, only that he was being coached to better parts of his game that he felt wouldn't fix the problem. 

Quote:Considering his contract will end after next season (doubt we pick up 5th yr option), I don't think you'll need to worry. Solid or better play next year or we move on.

I never worry.

 

I'm talking in season. 

Quote:I never worry.

 

I'm talking in season. 

You realize our options in the draft is a guy like Patrick Mahomes who was similar but a little farther behind in QB development that Bortles was as a rookie, or an FA like Hoyer and co., right?

 

I really don't see there being anyone close to Bortles we can get for THIS upcoming season. Obviously if he plays like crap, I highly doubt we wouldn't see what else we have though.

Quote:You realize our options in the draft is a guy like Patrick Mahomes who was similar but a little farther behind in QB development that Bortles was as a rookie, or an FA like Hoyer and co., right?

 

I really don't see there being anyone close to Bortles we can get for THIS upcoming season. Obviously if he plays like crap, I highly doubt we wouldn't see what else we have though.

If the Jags land Shannahan or Mike Smith/McCoy, I think you're going to see an entirely different Bortles. Shannahan finds what his players do best and goes after it. Lining Julio up all over the field, putting Freeman/Coleman in the slot and letting Ryan abuse mismatches he sees. 

 

Coaching matters and if the Jags land the right one, Blake will have a season better than the one in 2015.

Quote:If the Jags land Shannahan or Mike Smith/McCoy, I think you're going to see an entirely different Bortles. Shannahan finds what his players do best and goes after it. Lining Julio up all over the field, putting Freeman/Coleman in the slot and letting Ryan abuse mismatches he sees.


Coaching matters and if the Jags land the right one, Blake will have a season better than the one in 2015.

I agree completely.

Quote:If the Jags land Shannahan or Mike Smith/McCoy, I think you're going to see an entirely different Bortles. Shannahan finds what his players do best and goes after it. Lining Julio up all over the field, putting Freeman/Coleman in the slot and letting Ryan abuse mismatches he sees. 

 

Coaching matters and if the Jags land the right one, Blake will have a season better than the one in 2015.

Yeah, whereas Greg Olsen just said to a guy that was raw and had mechanics problems coming out of college that it isn't important and not to focus on it in the offseason.

 

"Coaching isn't that important," my [BLEEP].

Too many chefs in the kitchen.

No more project qbs please