Quote:No.. I'm not. Considering I didn't even want Bridgewater at 3.
I did....and he would have been worth it, despite what people like you seem to think.
Franchise QB are always worthy of a top 5 pick.
I'm happy w/ Bortles, but still believe Teddy is/ was the best QB from this draft and will be the best pro.
Quote:I did....and he would have been worth it, despite what people like you seem to think.
Franchise QB are always worthy of a top 5 pick.
I'm happy w/ Bortles, but still believe Teddy is/ was the best QB from this draft and will be the best pro.
Wait, wait, wait...... I thought it was all about "value". If the Jaguars took someone at #3 but could have been taken late in Round #1, wouldn't that be bad value? Why are you against maximizing value, TMD?
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Quote:Wait, wait, wait...... I thought it was all about "value". If the Jaguars took someone at #3 but could have been taken late in Round #1, wouldn't that be bad value? Why are you against maximizing value, TMD?
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It is about value. Franchise QB is always good value. There were 2, maybe 3 of those in this draft.
But thanks for your usual cLoWn addition to the thread.
Taking him in the top 5 when you can get him at 32 is getting the best value? That only makes sense in the mind of TMD.
Quote:Taking him in the top 5 when you can get him at 32 is getting the best value? That only makes sense in the mind of TMD.
Yes, because getting him at 32 was a certainty. lolcLowN
Quote:1) I'd have to go with Center, Leo, and Free Safety.
Center- They say they have faith in Brewster. They have so much faith in him they offered somebody else the richest Center contract ever. We must protect Bortles.
Leo- The most important guy on D. We need some youth and talent.
FS- An integral part to the Bradley system. Some would even argue the second most in his system. They don't seem sold on Whimper or Evans. So we'll see.
2) I'd say if we pick between 5-15, a LEO or FS. We can probably find a great Center in round 2. I can't say I've watched Randy Gregory, but I have seen Vic Beasley...and he's gonna be bust city if you ask me. LEO/Kurtis Drummond.
3) Assuming Brewster fails, which I think he will since they offered Mack so much money, in a miracle we could land Hronnis Grassu (really athletic Center from Oregon, could move well in zone blocking and hopefully bulk up against 3-4 NTs), or perhaps go for a FS if we go LEO in round one. Maybe a big guy like Cody Prewitt. Well that's my two cents, now invalidate my opinion with your opinion. Go Jaguars!
Hahaha you mean winston guy, not guy whimper.
As of right now hroniss grasu looks like ke he will be going in round 1. If we pick in that range I'd definitely be down with taking him.
Best fs/pass rusher in round 2
Whatever we didn't t get in 2 I'd take in 3.
That would be the early plan for me.
Quote:Yes, because getting him at 32 was a certainty. lolcLowN
Now you see how people view you when you do your whole little "could have gotten better value" song and dance.
Quote:I did....and he would have been worth it, despite what people like you seem to think.
Franchise QB are always worthy of a top 5 pick.
I'm happy w/ Bortles, but still believe Teddy is/ was the best QB from this draft and will be the best pro.
You may not remember, but I thought Teddy was the best QB in this draft class. Heck, I had him in my signature for 6 months.
Professional talent evaluators know better than we do. Caldwell and other GMs/Coaches thought Bortles was the best QB in this class. Teddy would not have been good value at 3.
Quote:You may not remember, but I thought Teddy was the best QB in this draft class. Heck, I had him in my signature for 6 months.
Professional talent evaluators know better than we do. Caldwell and other GMs/Coaches thought Bortles was the best QB in this class. Teddy would not have been good value at 3.
Other positions I would agree.
When you're talking "
franchise QB", it supercedes other positions.
Bridgewater has a very good chance to be the best QB from this class. A franchise level QB. I'll disagree with anyone that claims getting that would have been bad value at 3.
Telvin Smith is probably the MLB of the future.
Quote:Other positions I would agree.
When you're talking "franchise QB", it supercedes other positions.
Bridgewater has a very good chance to be the best QB from this class. A franchise level QB. I'll disagree with anyone that claims getting that would have been bad value at 3.
But he is NOT a franchise QB. You can't say Teddy is worth a top 5 pick because he can be a franchise QB.. because he isn't yet.
He does not have the best chances to become a franchise QB, according to many NFL insiders. If you want to hold on to your silly little opinion, you're more than entitled.
Do you know who else has a chance to become the best QB in this class? Derek Carr, Tom Savage, Aaron Murray. Does that mean they should have been picked Top 5? No.
Quote:But he is NOT a franchise QB. You can't say Teddy is worth a top 5 pick because he can be a franchise QB.. because he isn't yet.
He does not have the best chances to become a franchise QB, according to many NFL insiders. If you want to hold on to your silly little opinion, you're more than entitled.
Do you know who else has a chance to become the best QB in this class? Derek Carr, Tom Savage, Aaron Murray. Does that mean they should have been picked Top 5? No.
LOL @ trying to include Carr/ Savage/ Murray on Teddy's level of QB play.
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Quote:Telvin Smith is probably the MLB of the future.
I'd doubt that at his size. He needs at least 25 more lbs...and if he did that, his quickness/ speed would probably suffer.
Quote:Yes, because getting him at 32 was a certainty. lolcLowN
Im having a hard time understanding your logic.
Teddy is a franchise QB ( that went 32) and you think he should of been in the top 5, because him sliding to 32 was uncertain.
You also say that QB supercedes other positions.
Then why did Minn draft Anthony Barr first, over a Top 5 " franchis QB "? Even the team that drafted Teddy would.have rather missed out on him for the 3rd rated pass rusher.
Quote:Im having a hard time understanding your logic.
Teddy is a franchise QB ( that went 32) and you think he should of been in the top 5, because him sliding to 32 was uncertain.
You also say that QB supercedes other positions.
Then why did Minn draft Anthony Barr first, over a Top 5 " franchis QB "? Even the team that drafted Teddy would.have rather missed out on him for the 3rd rated pass rusher.
You'd have to ask Minnesota that. I'm not a mindreader.
Maybe they don't have the same mindset that QB supercedes all positions. They have a defensive minded head coach, as well. (Yeah, so do we, but we also have a stronger GM presence than I think they do)
Quote:You'd have to ask Minnesota that. I'm not a mindreader.
Maybe they don't have the same mindset that QB supercedes all positions. They have a defensive minded head coach, as well. (Yeah, so do we, but we also have a stronger GM presence than I think they do)
There isn't a soul in the football world that would take Anthony Barr over a " franchise QB".
If we went with a first round pass rusher, I'm leaning towards Devonte Fields. I think he would fit a LEO role well. He seems to use his hands well and has a pretty impressive pass rush arsenal, especially considering they were displayed as a true freshman. He was the BIg 12 defensive player of the year as a true freshman with 18.5 TFL and 10 sacks. He missed almost all of last year with a broken foot. He received a medical redshirt and is a redshirt sophomore this year.
I haven't been sold on Gregory or Calhoun yet.
I would like to watch more of Kyler Frackell this year. He is one to keep an eye on.
Quote:There isn't a soul in the football world that would take Anthony Barr over a " franchise QB".
Well Bridgewater is a franchise QB, so.....
Quote:LOL @ trying to include Carr/ Savage/ Murray on Teddy's level of QB play.
I'm just going by your logic?
Teddy has the chance to be a franchise-level QB. So do all of the other QBs in this class. That doesn't mean they should be picked Top 5.
Teddy was not the best QB prospect in this draft. Blake Bortles was.