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Quote:Let's not forget David had his share of turnovers as well.  Not as many and not the pick sixes, but drive killers.

 

I think it would be the typical Del Rio years.

 

We'd be hovering near .500 and still unable to take control of our destiny when a wildcard is within reach.

 

That being said... the extra wins would come from not killing us with the pick sixes.

That really was his biggest downside, because you can work around not having a deep ball.

Bortles is Garrard, with Leftwichs windup.

 

I think Garrard would have done better than Bortles probably, but not any better than Garrard ever did 

Quote:Win the division with ease............

I disagree. TN is getting better. And if Houston had played Savage all year, they'd probably be well in control of the division.

 

But certainly a better shot than sitting at 2 wins.

 

Some of our losses fall squarely on coaching and gameplan.

The only losses you could automatically give DG over Bortles would be the ones Bortles himself lost us with really poor play.

3-4 games?

 

And even then, like pointed out by pirk...

DG had his fair share of game/drive killing INTs

What are peoples obsession with David Garrard on this forum? Hes was legit an average QB that did not amount to anything lol..

Quote:What are peoples obsession with David Garrard on this forum? Hes was legit an average QB that did not amount to anything lol..

Obsession?

 

I think it's about comparisons.

 

DG was the last QB that was relevant for the Jags.

 

I mean... in theory, none of our QBs amounted to anything.

Save Brunell, yet never won a SB with him... so there's that.

Quote:What are peoples obsession with David Garrard on this forum? Hes was legit an average QB that did not amount to anything lol..

 

I'm far from his biggest fan, but if we just had a game manager instead of a highly mistake prone gunslinger we'd have a handful more wins.

 

Our future would be just as questionable, we'd just have more "stable" QB play while we worked out the long term solution.

 

We now have the opposite side of the coin.

 

We're suffering at QB while we figure out the future.

Quote:Fail miserably. Garrard barely was serviceable with arguably the best running game in the league.

You can't be serious. ...this comment is a joke on so many levels. Garrard is the 2nd best QB we've ever had. Guess who he was drafted by?

I think teams make the mistake of waiting too long see if a quarterback is "the guy." A good QB doesn't take that long to develop. Look at Prescott. Look at Cousins. Neither was taken in the first round. They were essentially drafted to back up franchise quarterbacks. Garrard falls into that category too.


Caldwell's biggest mistake is that he drafted a project QB in the first round.

Quote:I think teams make the mistake of waiting too long see if a quarterback is "the guy." A good QB doesn't take that long to develop. Look at Prescott. Look at Cousins. Neither was taken in the first round. They were essentially drafted to back up franchise quarterbacks. Garrard falls into that category too.


Caldwell's biggest mistake is that he drafted a project QB in the first round.

Or sometimes they take a little while.

 

Rodgers, Eli, Aikman, Alex Smith, Brees.....

 

QB is by far the hardest position to figure out. Sometimes they are great from the jump. Sometimes it takes a while. Sometimes it doesn't click.

Wouldn't you agree, Cleatwood, that a second or lower draft pick minimizes the risk?

David would of worked wonders with this team in 2007 form.  Ivory would of been much better as well as Yeldon.  We also didnt have Ramsey or Gibon back there.

We'd be in the race with Chenney Had

The best thing about these speculation threads is that I can say whatever the hell I want to and be just as 'right' as everybody else, since there's absolutely no way to prove anything.

Quote:The best thing about these speculation threads is that I can say whatever the hell I want to and be just as 'right' as everybody else, since there's absolutely no way to prove anything.

 

Very true.

 

But aren't they all pretty much speculation threads?

Quote:Wouldn't you agree, Cleatwood, that a second or lower draft pick minimizes the risk?

2nd rounder?

 

The risk obviously decreases with every round but again, you never know. I honestly think a lot of it has to do with the team and coach that drafts you.

 

Is Derek Carr the same if he gets drafted by the Browns? Or what if Rodgers got drafted by San Fran and Smith goes to the Packers?

Garrard is only 38 years old. Bortles sucks. Weak 2017 qb draft class. No top tier free agents want to come here. Garrard come back next season and lead the Jags to the super bowl.

Quote:Garrard is only 38 years old. Bortles sucks. Weak 2017 qb draft class. No top tier free agents want to come here. Garrard come back next season and lead the Jags to the super bowl.

 

Cha CHING!  Cha CHING! Cha CHING!  Make it RAIN again, honey!

 

Quote:Garrard is only 38 years old. Bortles sucks. Weak 2017 qb draft class. No top tier free agents want to come here. Garrard come back next season and lead the Jags to the super bowl.

Can he still play? Can his body still take hits? If both are yes.  Why not.  What be even funnier if TC was HC and David was qb. 

Quote:Very true.

 

But aren't they all pretty much speculation threads?

 

No

Quote:What are peoples obsession with David Garrard on this forum? Hes was legit an average QB that did not amount to anything lol..

 

  One very good season.   One very large contract that followed. 

Quote:  One very good season.   One very large contract that followed. 

He had a dumbster fire to work with far as out side of rbs.