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On Bridgewater:

Quote:Mark Dominik, the former Buccaneers general manager who now serves as an analyst for ESPN, said on NFL Live that he doesn’t believe Bridgewater’s Pro Day is a problem so much as his skinny frame, as well as the fact that Bridgewater didn’t always look like an elite passer on tape.


“There were things you saw on tape when you watched him,” Dominik said. “Something that scouts internally, we talked about it in Tampa with Teddy Bridgewater last year. Is he really the premiere quarterback? I like the young man, I think he’s a quality individual, he’s got character and leadership and those things. But this is a quarterback, and you’re judged by what quarterback you draft, and I think Teddy Bridgewater might not have all the pieces you’re looking for.

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On Manziel per rotoworld:

Quote:ESPN's Mark Dominik suggested on NFL Insiders that Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel will "fall a little more than people think" in May's draft.


Dominik's thoughts are particularly interesting because he was GMing in the NFL as recently as this past January, and it's probably a safe bet that he still talks to a lot of people around the league. Dominik opined that Manziel could fall as far as the late first round, and suggested the Texans trading back into the latter part of the frame to acquire "Johnny Football." It's no secret that Texans owner Bob McNair is a big fan of Manziel's. Houston currently drafts at Nos. 1 and 33.
lolz.......marK dominiK....

 

 

who cares what he thinks?? Guy can't even keep a GM job w/o getting fired. 

Lol Mark Dominik, when is ESPN gonna hire Gene Smith? This guy is just as bad 

The only NFL guys who will put their name on it are the ones that we laugh at. It's either terrible ex NFL guy, or unnamed source. Yet the herd follow them to the ends of the world. 

I think its funny to judge a guys opinion based on whether he has a job or not. He at one time was able to a get job that we are unable to get, so its not like the guy is completely oblivious, but it also doesn't mean he is right either. A lot of people on this board have said a QB shouldn't be drafted until late teens early 20s well before these guys even started talking.

 

I am still hoping for my dream scenario. Matthews at #3, and trading back in first for Manziel. We would have his Left Tackle, Center, and Right Tackle....and then HIM Smile

 

Maybe even take his one of his security blankets in Derel Walker as a 3rd day pick or even sign as undrafted...

Quote:Lol Mark Dominik, when is ESPN gonna hire Gene Smith? This guy is just as bad 
 

I'd watch The Gene Smith Show.. I'd imagine it would be like an episode of Sesame Street with special guests, like Blaine Gabbert. 
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I think its funny judge a guys opinion based on whether he has a job or not. He at one time was able to a job, that we are unable to get, so its not like the guy is completely oblivious, but it also doesn't mean he is right either.
A lot of people on this board have said a QB shouldn't be drafted until late teens early 20s well before these guys even started talking.


I am still hoping for my dream scenario. Matthews at #3, and trading back in first for Manziel. We would have his Left Tackle, Center, and Right Tackle....and then HIM Smile


Its also noteworthy IMO, considering he was a GM up until January. So he's seen the real evaluations from his scouts. He knows where actual scouts grade and rank the QBs vs the media perception.
Quote:The only NFL guys who will put their name on it are the ones that we laugh at. It's either terrible ex NFL guy, or unnamed source. Yet the herd follow them to the ends of the world. 
 

You are sadly stuck between denial and anger stages of grief.  No wonder you've had "purgatory" on your mind.
Quote:Its also noteworthy IMO, considering he was a GM up until January. So he's seen the real evaluations from his scouts. He knows where actual scouts grade and rank the QBs vs the media perception.
 

And he's not afraid of burning bridges by breaking confidence, either.

 

There's absolutely nothing for him to lose, and zero reason to lie.
Quote:You are sadly stuck between denial and anger stages of grief.  No wonder you've had "purgatory" on your mind.
It's actually neither. We all had a good laugh at the quotes last night. It was funny.
Quote:Lol Mark Dominik, when is ESPN gonna hire Gene Smith? This guy is just as bad
Gene smith would be perfect for FCS playoff games/Shrine bowl as a commentator.
Quote:I'd watch The Gene Smith Show.. I'd imagine it would be like an episode of Sesame Street with special guests, like Blaine Gabbert. 
 

it would go something like this "uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh cecil uhhhhhhhh we like him uhhh hes uhhhhhh a good player."
this is the guy who drafted josh freeman too. doesnt look like he was right about that QB. so i mean, just like anything. none of these guys can predict the future. 

Quote:this is the guy who drafted josh freeman too. doesnt look like he was right about that QB. so i mean, just like anything. none of these guys can predict the future.


His draft history doesn't matter. He's relaying what his scouts told him during the season.
Quote:His draft history doesn't matter. He's relaying what his scouts told him during the season.
OK. and the point being is it doesnt matter what a scout thinks. they thought josh freeman was going to be great. scouts thought tom brady was going to be worthless. these players will get drafted where they get drafted and then its up to them to perform. where a scout has someone rated has no bearing on how good or bad they will be. 
Quote:OK. and the point being is it doesnt matter what a scout thinks. they thought josh freeman was going to be great. scouts thought tom brady was going to be worthless. these players will get drafted where they get drafted and then its up to them to perform. where a scout has someone rated has no bearing on how good or bad they will be. 
 

True, but he was primarily referring as to where these QBs could be drafted, not necessarily how good or bad they will be over their career.
Quote:It's actually neither. We all had a good laugh at the quotes last night. It was funny.
 

So denial it is.  No surprise.
Lol the Gene Smith show  Wallbash  Wallbash  Wallbash  Wallbash  Wallbash  Wallbash

If Manziel falls late in the 1st round, i think you have to make the trade back into the 1st round to get him.