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That dude is huge.. 

Plenty chance. He has the size but he's still raw.

He should drop to the 3rd or so. Big is good, but when it comes with below average speed, explosion, agility, and hands...it makes for a fringe top 10 WR in a class as stacked as this. 

 

Not to mention he is ~2 years older than most of the other WR in this class, so theoretically his room for growth is not as high either. That's an important thing that most people don't realize. 

 

To me it would be a mistake to take him above Adams, Robinson, Moncrief, Matthews, Latimer, etc,(and the obvious Sammy, Evans, OBJ, and Cooks)...and to be honest a switch to TE wouldn't be the worst idea ever. 

Quote:Plenty chance. He has the size but he's still raw.

Raw and 23 1/2 when his rookie season starts is a very bad combination. 

A lot of mocks have him going late first.. but okay. 

Quote:A lot of mocks have him going late first.. but okay. 

Yeah sorry, Benjamin and Marqise Lee are the two way overrated WR of this class to me. 

Quote:Yeah sorry, Benjamin and Marqise Lee are the two way overrated WR of this class to me. 

I feel you when it comes to Lee, but theres something about Kelvin that just screams #1 WR. 

Quote:He should drop to the 3rd or so. Big is good, but when it comes with below average speed, explosion, agility, and hands...it makes for a fringe top 10 WR in a class as stacked as this. 

 

Not to mention he is ~2 years older than most of the other WR in this class, so theoretically his room for growth is not as high either. That's an important thing that most people don't realize. 

 

To me it would be a mistake to take him above Adams, Robinson, Moncrief, Matthews, Latimer, etc,(and the obvious Sammy, Evans, OBJ, and Cooks)...and to be honest a switch to TE wouldn't be the worst idea ever. 

They said the same about Alshon Jeffrey.

Quote:They said the same about Alshon Jeffrey.

Sure, and if Benjamin had elite insane vice grip hands like Jeffery it would be a pretty fair comp. Unfortunately Benjamin's are average to below average. 

Quote:Sure, and if Benjamin had elite insane vice grip hands like Jeffery it would be a pretty fair comp. Unfortunately Benjamin's are average to below average. 

I was laughed at when I said we should take Jeffery at 7 if Blackmon was gone..

I've seen Benjamin projected as an H-back, even as a tight end. I think his NFL fit may prove to be at one of those two positions, imo.

Quote:I was laughed at when I said we should take Jeffery at 7 if Blackmon was gone..

Jeffery was a tough evaluation. Everyone loved him as the #1 WR in the class after his sophomore season, and then he literally got fat and happy for his junior year and most jumped ship...including myself. The player he is right now is definitely not the one that was evaluated as a junior. He has worked hard and gotten in even better shape than he was his fantastic sophomore season. I worry that his body type leaves him on that razors edge where if he slips even a little on the conditioning he will fall right back to the average junior we watched before the draft.

 

To go off topic a little, this year's Jeffery type case study for me is Carlos Hyde in reverse. Last year he worked really hard and got in the best shape of his life and he was legit very good, and now people are evaluating him as Eddie Lacy 2.0. However, if you look at his junior year he was nothing more than a plodding, goal line/short yardage, LenDale White type. I think he is on the razors edge too. If he slips up with his conditioning just a little, or even if he just gets a small nagging injury, I can see him going from Eddie Lacy 2.0 to just another LenWhale White really quick. It's why I don't have him rated nearly as high as most. 

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Quote:Yeah sorry, Benjamin and Marqise Lee are the two way overrated WR of this class to me.

Lee is underrated now if anything.

I wouldnt take Benjamin in the 2nd. Im hoping Amaro falls

I don't think Benjamin will be able to separate against good NFL corners.  Like Shannon Sharpe did when he entered the league, his best position would be to transition to TE.  In this pass happy league, he might become an all-pro there. 

Benjamin is pretty much a more dynamic Ernest Wilford. He is more athletic but the same idea is there : Big WR who cant seperate but can outshield defenders and play the red zone area.

 

Not the type of WR im taking in this years draft before the 3rd or 4th round. If we are taking a WR at #39 id much rather Jordan Matthews , Cooks , Adams or Robinson.

I don't trust his hands. At all.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/4/15/55...ands-speed

 

Good read if you want an in-depth breakdown from a neutral party.

 

To sum up: slow acceleration, high top-end speed, incredibly strong for receiver, makes tough catches, and drops come from trying to get YAC before the ball gets there. And you can't teach tall.

 

Brief excerpt on the hands:

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<p class="">Still, the impression out there is going to be that he drops a lot of passes so he has bad hands. It's hard to argue against that if your audience hasn't also rewatched the game focusing only on him. The truth is there is no way of knowing if Benjamin will get better at concentrating on making every catch as a professional football player.

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<p class="">Hell, Megatron himself still has bouts of the dropsies at times.

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<p class="">The question comes down to whether you think he can still be highly productive even if he continues to have concentration issues from time to time.

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<p class="">My evaluation is that, yes, he would still be a serious weapon in just about any offense even if he has the occasional drop or two. There's precedent. Does the name <a class="" href='http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/3425/terrell-owens'>Terrell Owens</a> ring a bell? Different kind of player in a lot of ways, but T.O. was notorious for dropping easy passes a time or two a game.

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<p class="">I would say he still managed to have a pretty decent career.

Quote:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/4/15/55...ands-speed

 

Good read if you want an in-depth breakdown from a neutral party.

 

To sum up: slow acceleration, high top-end speed, incredibly strong for receiver, makes tough catches, and drops come from trying to get YAC before the ball gets there. And you can't teach tall.

 

Brief excerpt on the hands:

LOL I don't think this GIF of Benjamin w/ the uber blatant offensive PI should count as proof of his 'high top-end speed' as that article is trying to say. If he really did have top end speed there should be a plethora of GIFs available to prove it not this one.