Quote:I can't believe we took Alualu over Thomas and Pierre-Paul
I wanted Thomas so bad also. I thought it was all but a lock for us to take him, when he was still on the board at our pick.
Quote:Don't get me wrong I'm not denying how good Thomas is and his impact just speaking in terms of the scheme itself. I don't think a premier FS is needed schematically to make this work that's all I'm saying.
The corners push the wideouts to the safety then safety has the choice of who to eliminate from the play.
Thomas is a top 2-3 safety period. I just don't think he's the main reason the scheme works.
You can definitely make the scheme work without a top flight FS. But for it to work at a very high level like the Seahawks' does, you're going to need a high level FS.
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But to me the bottom line is, if you're going to play that kind of press, man coverage, then the front 4 better get to the QB or one of those receivers is going to get loose for a long completion.
Ding,ding,ding. Winner.
Yep. That's why I still think the Jags take a pass rusher early in the draft. If you want consistent pressure from a 4 man rush - you'll need a rotation of capable rushers and at least one big impact LEO. Those who think the Clemons signing changed any draft strategy are kidding themselves, IMO.
Bradley's scheme is predicated on pressure from a 4 man rush. The press coverage + roaming and robber safety play is a direct compliment to it - but requires the pressure up front to work effectively.
Quote:The answer is no.
What changes the game, is a QB affecting pass rush combined with WR affecting coverage.
No what really changes the game is a franchise QB...you can manufacture rushers with a good scheme and average guys...but you can't manufacture a good QB.
I think we might be getting carried away with the LT comparisions...JMO...
Quote:He certainly isn't shy of demonstrating his displeasure with Clowney, that's for sure. It's kind of like when he went with McCoy over Suh.
Now, the funny thing about that is McCoy's played better than Suh the past couple seasons.
For anyone who thinks there is another LT in this draft is sadly mistaken.
Yeah Mack is very good but to compare him to LT the most feared pass rusher in nfl history really?
Quote:Now, the funny thing about that is McCoy's played better than Suh the past couple seasons.
I was thinking kind of the same thing.
He picked a guy who would work at his craft over a guy who would try to slide by just on his natural ability. When it's all said and done he may have been right.
Quote:I was thinking kind of the same thing.
He picked a guy who would work at his craft over a guy who would try to slide by just on his natural ability. When it's all said and done he may have been right.
And McCoy's early issue was a season-ending biceps tear in both 2010 and 2011. Since he's been stellar, it's a shame he lost that early time.
Quote:Kevin Hardy was a disappointing player overall. He had that one really good year in 1999, but that was pretty much it.
I still hold a grudge against him for taking the wrong angle in game 6 of the 1998 season vs Buffalo in the waning seconds of that game that allowed Doug Flutie to waltz into the EZ on a bootleg for the winning score. Hardy needed to contain the outside and instead he took the bait inside allowing for a fairly easy winning 5 yard scramble by Flutie.
The Jags had a perfect 5-0 record heading into that game.
I really wanted Simeon Rice at that pick. We were fortunate to get Brackens where we did, but Rice was just masterful at getting into the backfield.
Quote:I think we might be getting carried away with the LT comparisions...JMO...
I was the one who brought up LT, but my point in doing that was, that we were getting carried away with the Kevin Hardy comparisons. Kevin Hardy does not represent the best that we can possibly get from a linebacker.
Quote:For anyone who thinks there is another LT in this draft is sadly mistaken.
Yeah Mack is very good but to compare him to LT the most feared pass rusher in nfl history really?
c'mon man. let us have fun.
Quote:c'mon man. let us have fun.
No!
This is draft talk! Did you hear me?!?! We are on the internet discussing 20 something year old men!
You will take it seriously!
Now write something insulting about someone else's opinion!
Quote:For anyone who thinks there is another LT in this draft is sadly mistaken.
Yeah Mack is very good but to compare him to LT the most feared pass rusher in nfl history really?
People forget that Carl Banks was pretty great too, like scotty pippen to Jordan him and LT were a one two punch to a decent Giants Defense.
We have a good MLB but if Mack was drafted and played great with no great Leo role or another fantastic OLB he wont come even close to LT until that is set up...
We need a great CB & FS too!
Quote:People forget that Carl Banks was pretty great too,...
wasn't he the guy that Keith Byars just destroyed while blocking for a Randall Cunningham scramble? in 1989 or 1990?....
Or am I confusing him with being the guy that Cunningham amazingly escaped from after taking that famous hit on Monday Night Football in 1988 and somehow keeping his balance and composing himself to throw that quick TD dart...??
Quote:I can't believe we took Alualu over Thomas and Pierre-Paul
I agree on Thomas, but JPP is so overrated. I'd take him over Alu Alu, but I'd be disappointed had we taken JPP over Thomas. I think 2011 will be an outlier for Pierre-Paul.
Quote:P. Willis
D. Ware
T. Suggs
are 3 current LBs I would say are/were "game changers"
Yes in deed... It's a proven fact that Very Good Ds have Very Good LBs in supporting roles.
I can't recall an top five D w/o an good LB...
NH3...
Quote:For all of the grief the QB position takes on this board, it amazes me how little is mentioned about this team's LBs. Outside of Poz, the LB corps have absolutely SUCKED for the past few seasons. In my eyes, both OLB spots are upgradable, and with as many picks as the Jags have this draft, likely will be.
As per my opinion, the issues w/our rescent LBing corp is that they don't play behind the scrimage of the OL. They rarely play behind the line of scrimmage. We need LBs that play on the other side of the ball consistently...
Ohhh Yeah, covering the TE would be nice also...
NH3...
Quote:LT was drafted 2nd overall in 1981, FWIW.
http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/years/1981
And that was before LT was "LT". That would be like me saying "If there's a Jerry Rice out there, then he won't be there when we pick" and you coming back saying "Jerry Rice was drafted 16th overall, FWIW".
Clearly, we're talking about the comparison as to how they were in the Pros and not who they were in college. With the benefit of hindsight, if an LT-like prospect is out there, he's likely not going to be there at #3. LT changed the game like very few defensive players has.
As much as I like Mack, I don't see him having that kind of impact.