This has been bugging me for quite some time now. Just what does the Pro Day accomplish? From what I can tell - since I have never attended a Pro Day, nor do I ever intend to - a players Pro Day consist of him being weighed and measured, performing a few drills, and maybe having a presser. But all of these things are already done at the Combine by an impartial, or at least a less interested party.
I would think that everyone in attendance takes most of the results of the scripted drills with more than just a grain of salt.
I can understand having one in the case of a player being injured and not being able to make the Combine or if he flat out wasn't invited, but besides that what's the point?
You don't buy a house only looking at the pictures online. You need to see it in person.
I get that RFC, and I agree wholeheartedly. But haven't you already done that at the Combine? And it would seem to me that you probably get a better look at the Combine than you do on the campus.
Some people prefer to show off their talents in an environment they're more used to and with people they're more accustomed to working with. For those who skip performing at the combine, pro day is their one big day to showcase what they've got.
Quote:Some people prefer to show off their talents in an environment they're more used to and with people they're more accustomed to working with. For those who skip performing at the combine, pro day is their one big day to showcase what they've got.
I understand that as well, but if I'm an NFL personnel guy, the fact that a player will only want to "show off their talents in an environment they're more used to and with people they're more accustomed to working with" will be sending up some pretty big red flags. I'm not saying that it would cripple the guy, but why the unwillingness to embrace the challenge?
Quote:I get that RFC, and I agree wholeheartedly. But haven't you already done that at the Combine? And it would seem to me that you probably get a better look at the Combine than you do on the campus.
Not to mention there is years worth of film and that scouts have visited his games before. It's probably more for the chance at an interview.
Quote:I get that RFC, and I agree wholeheartedly. But haven't you already done that at the Combine? And it would seem to me that you probably get a better look at the Combine than you do on the campus.
Well, for players like Teddy and Manziel, they didnt throw at the combine. They chose to only throw under their terms at the pro day.
Edit: There have been quite a few qb's in the league that didnt throw at the combine, and have turned out to be pretty good.
I think Pro Days are better platforms for guys who are considered fringe prospects, UDFA type. They either don't get invited to the combine or get lost in the shuffle.
I was watching the Clemson pro day. I don't think it has any impact on Watkins' stock. But I think it does give exposure to the smaller name guys.
Quote:Well, for players like Teddy and Manziel, they didnt throw at the combine. They chose to only throw under their terms at the pro day.
Edit: There have been quite a few qb's in the league that didnt throw at the combine, and have turned out to be pretty good.
And I don't think that a player's performance at the Combine
or his Pro Day is all that good of an indicator on his eventual NFL career. It's been said before that the big thing about the Combine is the medical and the interview. They can figure everything else out on their own.
Quote:I think Pro Days are better platforms for guys who are considered fringe prospects, UDFA type. They either don't get invited to the combine or get lost in the shuffle.
I was watching the Clemson pro day. I don't think it has any impact on Watkins' stock. But I think it does give exposure to the smaller name guys.
Bingo. Those are the guys that really benefit, not the ones that every scout in the League has seen hours of tape on.
Honestly, it doesn't really serve much of a purpose at all. The combine they get the medicals and often the first private interviews, those are important. The workouts are extremely overrated for both the combine and pro days. The private workouts later on render the pro days all but moot.
Quote:I understand that as well, but if I'm an NFL personnel guy, the fact that a player will only want to "show off their talents in an environment they're more used to and with people they're more accustomed to working with" will be sending up some pretty big red flags. I'm not saying that it would cripple the guy, but why the unwillingness to embrace the challenge?
This is something that has always bugged me. When they are a rookie in the NFL they won't be in an environment that they are used to at all.
Think about it people. What would you pay attention to more, the thousands of throws Teddy had in game situations or 40 throws when hes in shorts...
Pro Days generally mean squat for all players.
Quote:Think about it people. What would you pay attention to more, the thousands of throws Teddy had in game situations or 40 throws when hes in shorts...
Pro Days generally mean squat for all players.
If he lit it up, the pro day would matter. Thats what youre trying to say.
Love how the bandwagon has done nothing but complain about pro days the last 24 hours.
Quote:If he lit it up, the pro day would matter. Thats what youre trying to say.
That's actually not what he was trying to say at all...
Quote:That's actually not what he was trying to say at all...
That would be the truth.
C'mon folks. If pro days were completely irrelevant no one would go. You think the scouts are sitting around thinking to themselves "Man I'm tired of all this hard work, i know I'll go hang out at the Teddy pro day and take a quick power nap"?
Pro days are just another piece of the puzzle. If you are going to make a multi-million dollar investment, you want to make sure youve done your homework. Last thing you want is to skip out on a kid's pro day, miss something that might have raised a red flag, and then pull the trigger on a guy without as much information as possible.
Lets not all get defensive just because our favorite QB had a so-so performance.
To validate tape or raise redflags
Quote:C'mon folks. If pro days were completely irrelevant no one would go. You think the scouts are sitting around thinking to themselves "Man I'm tired of all this hard work, i know I'll go hang out at the Teddy pro day and take a quick power nap"?
Pro days are just another piece of the puzzle. If you are going to make a multi-million dollar investment, you want to make sure youve done your homework. Last thing you want is to skip out on a kid's pro day, miss something that might have raised a red flag, and then pull the trigger on a guy without as much information as possible.
Lets not all get defensive just because our favorite QB had a so-so performance.
I realize that my timing on posting this could cause confusion and I'm sorry for that. This was not intended to be directly related to Bridgewater's, or anyone else's, Pro Day. But rather, just a look at the generic Pro Day and the role that it plays.
I agree that as a personnel guy, I'm going to want as much exposure to a player that I can get but it seems like the event that has the
least return for my investment is the Pro Day. When I consider it against the field of the Combine, visits to the team's facilities, etc I think that the Pro Day just doesn't offer as much.
Quote:C'mon folks. If pro days were completely irrelevant no one would go. You think the scouts are sitting around thinking to themselves "Man I'm tired of all this hard work, i know I'll go hang out at the Teddy pro day and take a quick power nap"?
Pro days are just another piece of the puzzle. If you are going to make a multi-million dollar investment, you want to make sure youve done your homework. Last thing you want is to skip out on a kid's pro day, miss something that might have raised a red flag, and then pull the trigger on a guy without as much information as possible.
Lets not all get defensive just because our favorite QB had a so-so performance.
this, its funny how all of a sudden Teddy has a bad pro day and now the pro day dont mean jack, haha good stuff. If Teddy had a good pro day all u would hear is how great he is and how he dominated his pro day. But his wasnt good so now it means nothing haha
Quote:Some people prefer to show off their talents in an environment they're more used to and with people they're more accustomed to working with. For those who skip performing at the combine, pro day is their one big day to showcase what they've got.
Accurate statement, but just makes horrible sense. It's not like they can control their surroundings on Sunday. Gotta respect a guy who throws at the combine these days.