I don't think Garrard was any better a passer then Henne. Garrard was decent runner but average at best passer. Garrard also had a younger Meester as well as to pretty good guards in Manuwai and Naeole.
Quote:How bad are things, really, when we long for the days of David Garrard?
Speak for yourself. Watching him and the team completely fall apart at the end of 2006 and 2009 and 2010 were tough to watch. Some just have selective memory.
Quote:Speak for yourself. Watching him and the team completely fall apart at the end of 2006 and 2009 and 2010 were tough to watch. Some just have selective memory.
Agree. Henne played better last year than Garrard in 2010, but you sure don't see folks lining up to give him credit.
Quote:Agree. Henne played better last year than Garrard in 2010, but you sure don't see folks lining up to give him credit.
This. Garrard was far from the only thing wrong with those teams, but he was the very expensive, overhyped broken part. My defining memory of Garrard was the 4th and 17(?) run in the 2007 playoffs against Pittsburgh. That was one of the gutsiest plays by a Jaguar that I've ever seen, and one of the most iconic. I'll always give him credit for a great 2007.
2002-2006 and 2008-2010, on the other hand...
Quote:Gabbert had MJD during his best year and a top 6 defense and went 5-11 LOL.
didnt it come out that year that like over half the teams we played had our playbook anyway? so the fact we got five wins out of it is impressive to me
So we have one former quarterback telling us the Jaguars are leaving for London, and the other one telling us our quarterbacks are awful.
We expect a team with six consecutive non-winning seasons to take lots and lots of in-coming, but really?
Apparently, even a former Jaguars' starter doesn't have the insight necessary to make the appropriate diagnosis of what's what with Jaguars' quarterbacks.
If anybody should know not to harshly criticize an NFL quarterback, David Garrard should be one of those guys. He certainly should refrain from making generalized comments that will be taken out of context by those seizing upon anything they can to support their agenda.
Not surprising that Garrard doesn't have the ability to see circumspect. Good field vision is a must for an NFL signal-caller.
Jaguars' fans can attest to lots and lots of "wow!-what?" over the years from David.
Forget about Garrard, the quarterback. He threw plenty of interplanetary Sputnik-like non-scientific probes to nowhere. He ping ponged lots of footballs off receivers. He saw many of his passes become hook and ladders to the other guy. He took scores of sacks.
While his two swinging gate offensive tackles did their best to keep their own jerseys clean, David came out of piles more crumpled than before the pocket collapsed upon him, and, at best, spent non-neatly folded days under center before his spine gave way.
Hey, I have always been a Garrard guy. I have always admired his ability to take what life hands him with total class. This has changed. It seems old number nine couldn't beat his critics, so he's joined them. That's fair enough.
The forward pass is predicated upon the ability to precisely time the throw to meet the receiver at a given spot on the turf. A solid, opposing defense knows this fact, perhaps better than even former starting quarterbacks do.
Three things are a constant with the forward pass; it's early, it's late, or right on time. There are three things that happen when you decide to throw the forward pass; it's incomplete, it's intercepted, or, thirdly, it's caught for a completion.
Most fans have absolutely no idea what it means for a quarterback to throw footballs with touch. It's the primary function of the quarterback not to just throw a football, but to make sure the football is caught. The great quarterbacks are those that can take everything in terms of how precise things are on any given day and make the necessary adjustments required for receivers to make the catch.
For the receiver, his job is to remain on-time, on route, and make the catch.
So we're going to learn our lesson about superior pass protection, or just keep drafting more quarterbacks like the quarterback is a Bic lighter?
I'll be in my hardened bunker....
IN-COMING!
Garrard and hanging Chad hung them up there at pretty bad times.....Lame threw worm burners.
Please bring us a QB that can hit a receiver.
Quote:He was as average as the day is long.
He also had a habit of saving his worst for December, when the games mattered the most.
Yeah but his average was twice as good as Gabberts best.
Quote:Yeah but his average was twice as good as Gabberts best.
I'm not even as good as Gabbert at his worse, I still feel comfortable saying he isn't much good. Garrard's lack of success in the NFL is no bar on him calling a spade a spade.
Unless your a HOF quarterback or finished as one if the best of your era you shouldn't have a comment about other QBs
Quote:Unless your a HOF quarterback or finished as one if the best of your era you shouldn't have a comment about other QBs
Ok, so what about fat dudes who throw like girls? Can they have an opinion? Cause that is at least 50% of the people around here.
Quote:So we have one former quarterback telling us the Jaguars are leaving for London, and the other one telling us our quarterbacks are awful.
We expect a team with six consecutive non-winning seasons to take lots and lots of in-coming, but really?
Apparently, even a former Jaguars' starter doesn't have the insight necessary to make the appropriate diagnosis of what's what with Jaguars' quarterbacks.
If anybody should know not to harshly criticize an NFL quarterback, David Garrard should be one of those guys. He certainly should refrain from making generalized comments that will be taken out of context by those seizing upon anything they can to support their agenda.
Not surprising that Garrard doesn't have the ability to see circumspect. Good field vision is a must for an NFL signal-caller.
Jaguars' fans can attest to lots and lots of "wow!-what?" over the years from David.
Forget about Garrard, the quarterback. He threw plenty of interplanetary Sputnik-like non-scientific probes to nowhere. He ping ponged lots of footballs off receivers. He saw many of his passes become hook and ladders to the other guy. He took scores of sacks.
While his two swinging gate offensive tackles did their best to keep their own jerseys clean, David came out of piles more crumpled than before the pocket collapsed upon him, and, at best, spent non-neatly folded days under center before his spine gave way.
Hey, I have always been a Garrard guy. I have always admired his ability to take what life hands him with total class. This has changed. It seems old number nine couldn't beat his critics, so he's joined them. That's fair enough.
The forward pass is predicated upon the ability to precisely time the throw to meet the receiver at a given spot on the turf. A solid, opposing defense knows this fact, perhaps better than even former starting quarterbacks do.
Three things are a constant with the forward pass; it's early, it's late, or right on time. There are three things that happen when you decide to throw the forward pass; it's incomplete, it's intercepted, or, thirdly, it's caught for a completion.
Most fans have absolutely no idea what it means for a quarterback to throw footballs with touch. It's the primary function of the quarterback not to just throw a football, but to make sure the football is caught. The great quarterbacks are those that can take everything in terms of how precise things are on any given day and make the necessary adjustments required for receivers to make the catch.
For the receiver, his job is to remain on-time, on route, and make the catch.
So we're going to learn our lesson about superior pass protection, or just keep drafting more quarterbacks like the quarterback is a Bic lighter?
I'll be in my hardened bunker....
IN-COMING!
No chance anybody read all of that.
Quote:didnt it come out that year that like over half the teams we played had our playbook anyway? so the fact we got five wins out of it is impressive to me
dont think you really needed our play book..... MJD up the gut 30+ times was pretty much all we did.
Quote:dont think you really needed our play book..... MJD up the gut 30+ times was pretty much all we did.
Ya but would he go right or left... that is the question defenses had to answer
Quote:Ya but would he go right or left... that is the question defenses had to answer
*sigh* we were soo technical and complex back then...rocket science comes to mind when reflecting on those days lol.
Quote:No chance anybody read all of that.
I thought he was going to vent about how Blaine Gabbert is going to be the next Bart Starr.
Could be worse. We could be the Browns.
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