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Quote:So if that means 1st round exit every year with supreme talent around him, thats alright with you?

 

No it's not.. But calling Bridgewater better than Dalton when Dalton has already proved himself????? Good God please...

Quote:No it's not.. But calling Bridgewater better than Dalton when Dalton has already proved himself????? Good God please...

His pocket presence, accuracy, football IQ and arm strength were all better than Dalton's coming out. 

Quote:Its very good in a pro offense that requires him to identify the blitzers and either find the hot route/checkdown/change the protection/change the play

 

Far far beyond his peers. 

 

I also meant to say that not only is Bridgewater's completion pct high vs the blitz, but also his FIRST DOWN pct in those instances as well. 

Quote:Bengals are already looking at Aaron Murray

 

darn...I was hoping for a Bridgewater + Murray draft for the Jags. 

So lets recap the rumors today....

 

I said this: 

 

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I have confirmed this with sources I know on the inside. Jags are definitely looking for impact player with their pick. Their top 10 picks for their board are in this order (and they don't want to trade out of top 10 if one should present itself):

 

1. Jadeveon Clowney

2a. Sammy Watkins (seems like there is flip flopping between Mack and Watkins as to whom will be #2 on final board)

2b. Khalil Mack

4. Greg Robinson

5. Darqueze Dennard

6. Eric Ebron

7. Hasean Clinton Dix

8. Taylor Lewan

9. C.J Mosley

10. Mike Evans

 

They don't have Jake Mathews on their top 10 because they don't feel he is a true LT talent (didn't like a lot of film from Rice game got dominated at times as well as other games). Also Bridgewater is the only QB they have 1st round grade on, but he isn't in their top 15. 

 

Only 2 QBs have second round grades on them, I know one is Mettenberger, and Manziel surprisingly to me has a 3rd round grade (they feel that is where he would offer the most value, if they draft Manziel they would like him to sit for a year at minimum).

 

So there ya go folks


 

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Then Wiseman101 said this:

 

 

Quote:I have heard the same thing but apparently Bridgewater is in the top five due to his impact as a qb.

 

Top Brass feels like he a "real good" fit for the offense

 

Pro day will be huge for Bridgewater

 

They want to see two things:

 

Whether or not he maintains his size

 

And his arm strength, whether or not he can truly spread the field and drive the ball deep

 

Then I again responded with this:

 

Quote:Yes Top Brass feels like he is a "real good" fit for our offense. But he isn't in the top 15 as I mentioned. However, the team is willing to consider him at #6 - #8. Apparently, Falcons/Bucs are enamored with Clowney if he should fall to us, and Vikings might be overvaluing a QB or they want Clowney as well.

 

But from what I understand if we trade down then team feels confident a guy they like will be there in Round 2 for QB position, if not there at picks #6-#8. They don't want the QB pick to feel forced or like it was a huge reach.

 

 

Then wiseman responded with this:

 

Quote:I don't know who you know, but the friend of mine with the jags indicated to me at least that Bridgewater is top 5 on the board (Different people have different opinions though, could be fluctuating) 

 

He could potentially rise to #1 or #2 if he displays great arm strength on his pro day and the ability to hold weight. 

 

Now I think personally that even if Bridgewater isn't at #1 or #2 spot on the big boardthere is a good chance that the Jags will pick him just because of the combination of fit and qb tools

 

then post I said this:

 

Quote:All I know is that if Texans take Clowney like they should, then we are looking at either Watkins or Mack. If Clowney should fall then things could get interesting.

 

Also, I heard an interesting comparison for Bridgewater......Andy Dalton, basically some there think TB is more pro ready version (i.e. he has much better pocket awareness) of Dalton who was known in college for his ability to read the whole field, make great decisions, and throw with consistent accuracy.

 

Since, TB already plays in a pro style offense, they feel the transition would be easier for him than it was/has been for Dalton. 

 

 

 

Then Wiseman said this:

 

Quote:Dalton is a very very poor version of Bridgewater

 

The comparisons that my friend has most routinely heard have been Wilson and Rodgers, Brunell is brought up too

 

and then this:

 

Quote:Some guys who have been really high on him have likened him to the Golden Boy

 

then I said this:

 

Quote:I have heard that too, but that's only like 1 or 2 guys that were assigned to TBs region.

 
then he said this:
 

Quote:The thing that Calwell and Gus really really like is his poise and uncanny accuracy and ability to lead receivers into space

 

People inside rave about his fb IQ

 

 

Now I am bored.....and just FYI I don't have any sources, but that was a fun experiment....

 

RUMORS are just that RUMORS!

Quote:His pocket presence, accuracy, football IQ and arm strength were all better than Dalton's coming out. 

 

Awesome Zoltar.. How about some lotto numbers while you're at it.. Your screen name is a real oxymoron.. You know that? 

Quote:darn...I was hoping for a Bridgewater + Murray draft for the Jags. 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...ron-murray

Quote:Awesome Zoltar.. How about some lotto numbers while you're at it.. Your screen name is a real oxymoron.. You know that? 

Just the facts brah

GreeceMonkE, you were actually pretty spot on with the second part about Bridgewater being the only 1st round qb.

Quote:Just the facts brah

 

Your facts are made up in your own mind..

I hope Murray lasts until our first 4th rounder and we select him there. 

Quote:GreeceMonkE, you were actually pretty spot on with the second part about Bridgewater being the only 1st round qb.

 

I don't care .....whomever the FO picks I just hope it works out. I don't care its if Clowney, Mack, Watkins, Manziel, Bortles, Bridgewater, etc

 

I just want them to get the pick right.

Quote:But you said in the other post your sources told you "(and they don't want to trade out of top 10 if one should present itself)".  So why would we trade out of the top 5 if one of those TEN players you listed are there at #3?  Which obviously has to be the case, because 10>3 still, right?

 

You almost had me with your "sources" talk until you listed TE E. Ebron at #6, then H. Clinton-Dix at #7.  LOL, good one man!

 

But in all seriousness, at this point I don't think the pick will be a QB whether we stay at #3 or trade down to #6.   K-Mack, Watkins or Clowney.  One of those will be a Jag in 2014.

Greece, I guess you never saw this post of mine two pages ago where I pointed out you contradicted yourself and the Jags' alleged top ten impact players you listed were very suspicious.  I figured you had no "sources".

Quote:Greece, I guess you never saw this post of mine two pages ago where I pointed out you contradicted yourself and the Jags' alleged top ten impact players you listed were very suspicious.  I figured you had no "sources".

I saw it. I sent you a pm.

 

And I didn't say they were impact players. I said those were the top 10 players on their board....not that it matters the whole thing was fake.

Quote:I hope Murray lasts until our first 4th rounder and we select him there.

That would be nice.  I'd like it even better if he lasted until our first pick in the 5th round.  Just might slip that far now.

Quote:Your facts are made up in your own mind..

Your just over valuing Dalton

Quote:I hope Murray lasts until our first 4th rounder and we select him there. 

 

Quote:That would be nice.  I'd like it even better if he lasted until our first pick in the 5th round.  Just might slip that far now.

 

I would like him in either the 4th or 5th as well.

Quote:That would be nice.  I'd like it even better if he lasted until our first pick in the 5th round.  Just might slip that far now.

 

^This.. Murray in the 5th sounds perfect..

Quote:I saw it. I sent you a pm.

 

And I didn't say they were impact players. I said those were the top 10 players on their board....not that it matters the whole thing was fake.

Just saw the PM.  Nice.  LOL