Mike Evans is elite. Without him Manziel wouldn't even be in the 1st round conversation imo. I also don't believe in the other early QBs this year. If Clowney isn't there at 3, or if DC has doubts about him in the NFL, I'd like a trade down with ATL at 6, even if we are a bit underpaid (maybe 3rd rounder min?) and take Evans. This might be a bit high right now but I honestly believe he'll be a top 10 pick, maybe top 5 depending on where Watkins goes. DE in the 2nd and maybe pick up Shaw as a developmental/future backup QB.
I think he goes late first to early second.
He isnt elite imo. He isnt at Calvin Johnson, Fitz, AJ levels.
I don't like him either. He was MIA the last 3 games......Johnny would have been just fine without him this year
His measurables were off the chart. We need the big receiver. I haven't "watched tape" but the games I saw he was dominant in. With Blackmon being a luxury, I think this guy fits the bill as our true #1.
Quote:Mike Evans is elite. Without him Manziel wouldn't even be in the 1st round conversation imo.
I think you could argue either way with that debate. I mean sure, Johnny benefited from having him on the team. But I could make an equally and perhaps even more valid argument that Evans looked way better than he is with a Heisman-winning quarterback throwing the ball to him. Seriously, how many wide-receivers in college can say that? I can only imagine that it must have been nice being the lead receiver at Stanford during the Luck years, or Oklahoma during the Bradford years. And the same can be said for Evans who caught passes from arguably the best QB in all of college over the last 2-years.
Even so, I don't think anything should be taken away from either of them just because they played together.
Both are first round talents in my opinion, and both player's game will probably suffer a bit when they are separated. I personally would love to have Evans on the Jags, but it'd still be REEEEALLY hard for me to pick him over Watkins, just based on speed alone.
Evans won't be a Jag. We're trying to get faster. Evans is another Reggie Williams. Big & Slow.
I think he'll have a Roy Williams type career
Just another one falling in love with Evans after the combine. Nothing wrong with that, but to say Evans made Manziel? Did anyone really know who he was last year when Manziel actually won the Heisman? Evans makes me nervous. As I have already said a few months ago, I saw a game where they put a big bodied corner on him, 6'2 210, the guy was a freshman too, and Evans was almost non existent. With the new trend being big bodied corners, I'd rather go with the safe pick if we are talking about going WR 1st round
Evans is a faster version if Vincent Jackson.
Quote:Evans is a faster version if Vincent Jackson.
He isnt as physically built as Jackson. He doesnt have too much muscle tone.
Quote:He isnt as physically built as Jackson. He doesnt have too much muscle tone.
I just mean is play in the field reminds me of him.
Quote:Evans is a faster version if Vincent Jackson.
Nah Vincent Jackson is more explosive and is able to outrun DBs for deep balls and not just rely on out jumping them. Also as another poster above stated all it takes is a physical man corner and he goes invisible except for Johnny running around till he comes open.
Evans very rarely beats a DB on his initial cut (his slants look like drag routes lol) and runs sloppy with a weird stride. Good hands but is easily manhandled by physical CBs before,during and after the catch.
The combine results sure did help me strengthen my opinion. I live in the midwest and follow alot of Big 12 teams closer than most folks. I have watched even more intently since A&M switch to the SEC, just to see how they fared. Mike Evans is seriously good.
I don't think he's overly slow. He can get open, and he'd be great in the redzone. I will say that Manziel helped him insofar as Manziel will scramble alot, forcing receivers our of routes. That is one of Evans best situations. This pairs well imo with a little more mobile QB, but I prefer one that is a bit more cerebral than Manziel if we're taking him so early. Thus the Shaw or perhaps Mankins if they think he can develop as a passer endorsements. I really don't think the future QB of the Jags is in this draft, but a good backup/swing for the fences type developmental player are available.
Quote:Evans won't be a Jag. We're trying to get faster. Evans is another Reggie Williams. Big & Slow.
That sounds familiar....oh yeah, it's exactly the same thing people were saying about Alston Jeffery two years ago.
Quote:Just another one falling in love with Evans after the combine. Nothing wrong with that, but to say Evans made Manziel? Did anyone really know who he was last year when Manziel actually won the Heisman? Evans makes me nervous. As I have already said a few months ago, I saw a game where they put a big bodied corner on him, 6'2 210, the guy was a freshman too, and Evans was almost non existent. With the new trend being big bodied corners, I'd rather go with the safe pick if we are talking about going WR 1st round
Derrick Jones - Ole Miss
kid started the season as a WR.
Quote:Derrick Jones - Ole Miss
kid started the season as a WR.
Exactly, didn't think the name was worth mentioning, but I should have added that he was a WR about two weeks before. Either Jones will be the next shut down corner or Evans appears to have trouble with big corners
Quote:Mike Evans is elite. Without him Manziel wouldn't even be in the 1st round conversation imo. I also don't believe in the other early QBs this year. If Clowney isn't there at 3, or if DC has doubts about him in the NFL, I'd like a trade down with ATL at 6, even if we are a bit underpaid (maybe 3rd rounder min?) and take Evans. This might be a bit high right now but I honestly believe he'll be a top 10 pick, maybe top 5 depending on where Watkins goes. DE in the 2nd and maybe pick up Shaw as a developmental/future backup QB.
To me, Mike Evans reminds me exactly of former Buffalo Bill Andre Reed in playing style.
When you pull back and take a look at measurements, yeah they're different, but Evans just reminds me of Andre every time I watched him play.
I'd rather have Donte Moncrief in the 2nd over Evans in the 1st. Ideally we'd take Moncrief in the 4th, but I doubt he makes it past the 2nd round now. If he's on the board at our pick in the 3rd, take him please.
Quote:I'd rather have Donte Moncrief in the 2nd over Evans in the 1st. Ideally we'd take Moncrief in the 4th, but I doubt he makes it past the 2nd round now. If he's on the board at our pick in the 3rd, take him please.
3rd round yes take him....early 2nd might be a reach but after his combine I think he has moved himself to late 2nd round though.
Quote:Evans won't be a Jag. We're trying to get faster. Evans is another Reggie Williams. Big & Slow.
He'll be a MUCH better NFL WR than Reggie Williams was. Don't agree with the above comparison at all. Reggie couldn't jump over a credit card, and rarely won battles on jump balls. As a matter of fact on the occurrences where Reggie was called to do this, I often remember him being clumsy and falling down many times. Evans doesn't do this.
Quote:I think he'll have a Roy Williams type career
Nah, better.
Quote:Evans is a faster version if Vincent Jackson.
He'll be very similar to this.
Quote:Nah Vincent Jackson is more explosive and is able to outrun DBs for deep balls and not just rely on out jumping them. Also as another poster above stated all it takes is a physical man corner and he goes invisible except for Johnny running around till he comes open.
Evans very rarely beats a DB on his initial cut (his slants look like drag routes lol) and runs sloppy with a weird stride. Good hands but is easily manhandled by physical CBs before,during and after the catch.
I know a lot of Evans' catches were of this variety, and for a team like ours that hasn't had that WR that has shown they can win those type of battles, I wouldn't be scoffing at that ability....
That said, I have seen evidence of Evans also outrunning the DB for deep balls....on one of the Manziel highlights, there was at least one of this type where Manziel from his own EZ throws a bomb to Evans who simply beat the coverage caught the bomb and could not be caught from behind as he sprinted in for the long TD.