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Quote:Like I said before, if we are going to trade down within the top 10 we must get a second rounder so we can have a pick before #39. Otherwise, we risk missing out on one of the top five players for peanuts.

 

exactly.

Quote:I'm not a fan of trading back for mid round picks... (unless you're dealing with mid round picks to begin with)

 

If you're picking in the top 5, you should stay there, unless you move back to like the teens/20s... In that case you get their 1st this year and probably another 1st and 2nd.  That's the only time it makes sense for me.

 

But if you're at 3 and someone wants that spot who is at 6.... there's a reason they want to move up.  If they really really need to move up, then by all means, we'll take your 2nd rounder off your hands.  Nothing less than that.

 

That reason would be Jadeveon Clowney or Greg Robinson. But if Jake Matthews can fall out of the top five, it would make sense to keep their second round pick.

Quote:Exactly.

 

Finally someone agrees with me. I felt alone with people saying trade a third and fourth.

we already have a ton of mid round picks.  We need more 1st and 2nd rounders.

 

Getting another 4th or 5th would be a very "meeh" moment. 

Quote:we already have a ton of mid round picks.  We need more 1st and 2nd rounders.

 

Getting another 4th or 5th would be a very "meeh" moment. 

 

I know. Give me a second and a third, please.

Quote:I know. Give me a second and a third, please.

Of course everyone wants this, but the market may not provide. I would rather have say a 3rd and a 6th and the falcons pick, than just ours. If Caldwell decides he will take a 4th to swap with falcons, then I will be fine, I am sure talent will be there at the 6th, and that 4th can be parlayed into something better later. I also have confidence in Caldwell that he won't pull a 'Gene' and overdraft someone like crazy because the offer was only a 4th.

 

Caldwell might be able to trade down again and pick up more picks. Meaning that original 'only' a 4th could turn into more. I see the chart, and yeah I want more, but if the Falcons are the only ones who want to trade up, and Caldwell is confident he can get a great player 3 picks later, then he should trade. Remember that Baltimore looked like it lost the Harvey trade big time to us, but in reality they were much better even though we only gave them a 4th. I have no problem with our GM making a similar move as long as he knows what he is doing, and doesn't draft some 3rd round prospect in the 1st.

Quote:Of course everyone wants this, but the market may not provide. I would rather have say a 3rd and a 6th and the falcons pick, than just ours. If Caldwell decides he will take a 4th to swap with falcons, then I will be fine, I am sure talent will be there at the 6th, and that 4th can be parlayed into something better later. I also have confidence in Caldwell that he won't pull a 'Gene' and overdraft someone like crazy because the offer was only a 4th.

 

Caldwell might be able to trade down again and pick up more picks. Meaning that original 'only' a 4th could turn into more. I see the chart, and yeah I want more, but if the Falcons are the only ones who want to trade up, and Caldwell is confident he can get a great player 3 picks later, then he should trade. Remember that Baltimore looked like it lost the Harvey trade big time to us, but in reality they were much better even though we only gave them a 4th. I have no problem with our GM making a similar move as long as he knows what he is doing, and doesn't draft some 3rd round prospect in the 1st.

 

When you're moving into the 3rd overall pick, you better be paying a premium.

 

A 6th round pick you mentioned is next to worthless, I only want pieces that are 1st, 2nd or 3rd round picks.  A 4th and 6th for example isn't nearly as valuable as a 3rd.  You need to make a stand and say only a 2nd rounder or maybe a 3rd and nothing else. 

 

Why do anyone a favor? 

 

It's one thing moving back from 13th to 16th because you feel there are 3 or 4 similarly rated players there for a 4th rounder....  But to give up your 3rd pick to the 6th just for some mid-to-low round pick?  Heck no.

Quote:When you're moving into the 3rd overall pick, you better be paying a premium.

 

A 6th round pick you mentioned is next to worthless, I only want pieces that are 1st, 2nd or 3rd round picks.  A 4th and 6th for example isn't nearly as valuable as a 3rd.  You need to make a stand and say only a 2nd rounder or maybe a 3rd and nothing else. 

 

Why do anyone a favor? 

 

It's one thing moving back from 13th to 16th because you feel there are 3 or 4 similarly rated players there for a 4th rounder....  But to give up your 3rd pick to the 6th just for some mid-to-low round pick?  Heck no.

 

Any third day pick is next to worthless. It is common for someone to say, "I will trade for the right price," and insist on a second or third round pick.

 

I am sure the Jaguars know that and will refuse any trade down offers they don't like because we have a top five pick in the first round.