02-20-2014, 10:15 AM
02-20-2014, 10:16 AM
How many different ways can the same question be asked?
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02-20-2014, 10:49 AM
We can write Bortles/Manziel/Matthews off. Bortles is not ready, Manziel is too risky, Pasztor has been lauded. This leaves us with Mack/Barr/Watkins. Not sure how I feel about Sammy's height, and not sure which LEO candidate is better
02-20-2014, 11:12 AM
Quote:How many different ways can the same question be asked?
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Thanks for the input
02-20-2014, 11:14 AM
Quote:We can write Bortles/Manziel/Matthews off. Bortles is not ready, Manziel is too risky, Pasztor has been lauded. This leaves us with Mack/Barr/Watkins. Not sure how I feel about Sammy's height, and not sure which LEO candidate is betterI think Watkins is an elite prospect. Yeah he is not super tall but his routes are crisp and has sticky hands. Nice top end ability as well. Personally I think he's the third best prospect in the draft.
02-20-2014, 11:31 AM
Watkins or Manziel, but I think we would try to trade down.
02-20-2014, 11:33 AM
Quote:Thanks for the input
Sorry but there is already a thread called <a class="" href='http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/topic/3138-who-should-the-jags-select-at-3/' title="Who should the Jags select at #3? - started 16 February 2014 - 01:53 PM">Who should the Jags select at #3?</a>.
02-20-2014, 11:37 AM
Quote:We can write Bortles/Manziel/Matthews off. Bortles is not ready, Manziel is too risky, Pasztor has been lauded. This leaves us with Mack/Barr/Watkins. Not sure how I feel about Sammy's height, and not sure which LEO candidate is better
The only dline/pass rusher I'd want at that pick is Clowney (unless there's a significant trade down). Does anyone here believe Mack/Barr has a 15 sack NFL season in them? I'd go Watkins in your scenario (not mine though). Then grab a pass rusher in FA and hope you hit on a diamond in the rough in the mid rounds. The biggest problem with picking Watkins is that you still need an elite pass rusher and an elite QB. But if you believe those players aren't there at #3, picking the guy anyway doesn't solve the problem either.
02-20-2014, 11:45 AM
Quote:Sorry but there is already a thread called <a class="bbc_url" href='http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/topic/3138-who-should-the-jags-select-at-3/'>Who should the Jags select at #3?</a>.This is a different poll and different discussion
02-20-2014, 12:29 PM
Trade down, stack picks in the first 5 rounds. Plenty of starters are available and this roster needs plenty of guys. Guys like Gratz, Sanders and Shorts are the benchmark of what we can get in the mid rounds.
The problem with most fans is we think that we need an "Elite QB" to win. We don't. Look at the last few Superbowls...
Wilson - Not Elite
Peyton - Elite
Kaep - Not Elite
Flacco - Not Elite
Eli - Not Elite
Brady - Elite
Elite or not it doesn't matter, you need to build a team to win and to do this you either need incredible luck or you need plenty of draft picks and plenty of cheapish FA's. Sure having a guy like Brady or Manning or Rodgers helps but these guys don't grow on tree's and we don't need one of them.
I've said it elsewhere but getting 10 picks in the first 5 rounds would be awesome. Mayock said this years top 20 is like last years top 10 so trade down to the teens, grab some extra picks for it and we'll still be getting a top level player.
The problem with most fans is we think that we need an "Elite QB" to win. We don't. Look at the last few Superbowls...
Wilson - Not Elite
Peyton - Elite
Kaep - Not Elite
Flacco - Not Elite
Eli - Not Elite
Brady - Elite
Elite or not it doesn't matter, you need to build a team to win and to do this you either need incredible luck or you need plenty of draft picks and plenty of cheapish FA's. Sure having a guy like Brady or Manning or Rodgers helps but these guys don't grow on tree's and we don't need one of them.
I've said it elsewhere but getting 10 picks in the first 5 rounds would be awesome. Mayock said this years top 20 is like last years top 10 so trade down to the teens, grab some extra picks for it and we'll still be getting a top level player.
02-20-2014, 12:49 PM
02-20-2014, 12:54 PM
Quote:Nah, we are gonna take Mack or trade back
No reason to over draft on a qb
02-20-2014, 12:55 PM
Quote:Nah, we are gonna take Mack or trade back
No reason to over draft on a qb
He better be the next Lawrence Taylor if we were to take a linebacker at 3.
02-20-2014, 01:37 PM
Quote:He better be the next Lawrence Taylor if we were to take a linebacker at 3.
DE/LEO. He may be the best pure rusher outside of Clowney.
02-20-2014, 01:38 PM
Watkins, Shorts can't stay healthy Blackmon can't trust..
02-20-2014, 01:39 PM
Caldwell comes from that drafting Julio Jones when the team already has Roddy White regime
02-20-2014, 02:07 PM
We already have like 5 threads like this.
02-20-2014, 02:10 PM
Quote:Trade down, stack picks in the first 5 rounds. Plenty of starters are available and this roster needs plenty of guys. Guys like Gratz, Sanders and Shorts are the benchmark of what we can get in the mid rounds.
The problem with most fans is we think that we need an "Elite QB" to win. We don't. Look at the last few Superbowls...
Wilson - Not Elite
Peyton - Elite
Kaep - Not Elite
Flacco - Not Elite
Eli - Not Elite
Brady - Elite
Elite or not it doesn't matter, you need to build a team to win and to do this you either need incredible luck or you need plenty of draft picks and plenty of cheapish FA's. Sure having a guy like Brady or Manning or Rodgers helps but these guys don't grow on tree's and we don't need one of them.
I've said it elsewhere but getting 10 picks in the first 5 rounds would be awesome. Mayock said this years top 20 is like last years top 10 so trade down to the teens, grab some extra picks for it and we'll still be getting a top level player.
Kaepernick didn't win one. He just got there.
02-20-2014, 02:15 PM
I voted for Manziel because he is a dual-threat quarterback and draft experts rank him higher than Bortles.
02-20-2014, 03:46 PM
Quote:I voted for Manziel because he is a dual-threat quarterback and draft experts rank him higher than Bortles.
So you rely on others to make decisions for you? Bortles Can almost be considered dual threat