Quote:Jadeveon Clowney is the best defensive player if you don't care about the intangibles. David Caldwell might be thinking of Sammy Watkins, who was mocked to go to the Rams.
He helped his team win 33 games in 3 seasons. He's a winning player and just an absolute freak athlete for his size.
Quote:He helped his team win 33 games in 3 seasons. He's a winning player and just an absolute freak athlete for his size.
That means nothing if you only have 3 sacks in your last season. The intangibles are stacked high against him.
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Go watch the tape. He impacts the game tremendously.
Quote:That means nothing if you only have 3 sacks in your last season. The intangibles are stacked high against him.
Ive coupled the Clowney train to the Bridgewater train
Clowney changes how teams play SC
qbs rollout to the opposite side
they ran away from him
Teams pretty much operated on the opposite side of him
Quote:Ive coupled the Clowney train to the Bridgewater train
Clowney changes how teams play SC
qbs rollout to the opposite side
they ran away from him
Teams pretty much operated on the opposite side of him
If you haven't seen his game vs Mizzou you should check it out. Clowney gets double teamed almost the whole game.
The only thing I worry about with Clowney is fatigue.
Quote:If Teddy doesnt go #1 i can see dave giving up a 3rd or mayble a couple 4s to move up.
Can you share the link though?
I'd hope so. If the tinhorns pass up on Bridge and some other team trades up and gets him i'll cry lol
Quote:I'm sure the reporting here is completely accurate, and that nobody is floating misinformation from the Texans front office.
It's possible that by saying they're looking at Manziel or Bortles, they're really thinking Bridgewater or Clowney, and this is just another head fake. Teams aren't going to tip their hands.
They know there are teams looking at Manziel and Bortles. They might think that by floating this out there, one of those teams, namely Cleveland, might be willing to move up and get their guy if they feel he won't be there when they pick.
You do realize as the number 1 pick they have absolutely no reason to do this? They don't need to put out false information to discuss trades when there is no one to question their positioning in the draft. Whoever gives them the best deal will get the number 1 slot regardless, if they do trade down.
Everyone saying Dave is going to trade up for a QB much less for Bridgewater specifically don't know what they're talking about.
Quote:That means nothing if you only have 3 sacks in your last season. The intangibles are stacked high against him.
Stats mean nothing until players get to the NFL.
Quote:Everyone saying Dave is going to trade up for a QB much less for Bridgewater specifically don't know what they're talking about.
Not far fetched. If your franchise guy is still available at #2 and you really believe in him that he is the future, you are saying you wouldn't trade up one spot to ensure you get him? Very possible if you ask me...especially considering one of your good friends in the GM who holds the #2 pick.
Quote:If you haven't seen his game vs Mizzou you should check it out. Clowney gets double teamed almost the whole game.
The only thing I worry about with Clowney is fatigue.
My issue as well. He does seem to take plays off once halftime comes especially when he see the team is doing everything away from him. It unfortunately led to him being caught off guard at times when a play actually did go his way. Teams have learned to make him chase and then attack when he slacks.
Its sick that teams really have to operate on the other side of the field from him to ensure he cant make plays but at the same time i could NFL OCs eating him alive with that and then when they see him taking a play off they attack. He will need another beast on the other side to keep offenses from shading away from him constantly.
Quote:If you haven't seen his game vs Mizzou you should check it out. Clowney gets double teamed almost the whole game.
The only thing I worry about with Clowney is fatigue.
Hopefully thats something he improves on
Quote:Everyone saying Dave is going to trade up for a QB much less for Bridgewater specifically don't know what they're talking about.
You have no idea what your talking about, if Clowney is gone and Bridgewater could be had at the second.
Dave is moving up
Quote:You have no idea what your talking about, if Clowney is gone and Bridgewater could be had at the second.
Dave is moving up
There are no absolutes, but the closest thing may be this NOT happening...
Quote:Hopefully thats something he improves on
One thing we've seen from Bradley is that the team shows energy/hustle, so I wouldn't worry about that.
I hope the Texans grab Bortles, the Browns trade up for Manziel, and the Vikings trade up with us swaping 1sts and 2nds this year + giving us next years first.
Quote:Not far fetched. If your franchise guy is still available at #2 and you really believe in him that he is the future, you are saying you wouldn't trade up one spot to ensure you get him? Very possible if you ask me...especially considering one of your good friends in the GM who holds the #2 pick.
There is no reason to trade up one spot for anybody. The Rams don't need a quarterback for a defensive end. The only risk is the Browns or Raiders leapfrogging us for a quarterback.
Quote:There is no reason to trade up one spot for anybody. The Rams don't need a quarterback for a defensive end. The only risk is the Browns or Raiders leapfrogging us for a quarterback.
You stated that there is no reason, then you provide a reason with two different circumstances.
What if St. Louis is entertaining offers from both Cleveland and Oakland and Jacksonville finds out about it? What if the player that those teams are targeting is a player that Jacksonville wants? Now St. Louis can simply drop back one spot, take the player that they want anyhow since they don't want the player that Jacksonville does, and garner an extra pick or so in the deal. That seems like a likely scenario, doesn't it?
Jerry Ricecake is the Texans pick.
Looks like we are guaranteed one of either Bridgewater, Clowney, Bortles, or Manziel.