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Quote:You clearly didn't understand my post, perhaps it flew over your head.  Let me try again:

 

Yes, it was Khan's decision to keep Gene.  Under the guidance of Weaver and under his experience as a businessman.  It's Business 101 to come in and evaluate an organization before overhauling it.  Otherwise, if you come in and drop the axe on the entire staff, you might lose some good peices that can be used and possibly even shine after some of the dead wood is alleviated.  It was smart to keep Gene, it allowed Kahn to come in look over the layout, see how the organization ran, but also allowed him to take the first year and see what he liked and didn't like about the organization.  Not only that, but he was a brand new NFL owner who needed some time to understand the intricacies of franchise ownership.  Keeping the old guard for 1 year was also smart in terms of allowing them to guide the ship as he was testing the waters.

 

Any student that has taken business classes or any manager/owner of a business would see the benefit of how he handled his first year.  To blame him for keep Gene Smith is really false critique.  Keeping him 2 years, that would have been the mistake.  But he fired him after his first full season as Owner.   

 

No I understand that concept very well. Not sure why you are acting as if a guy spending 800 MILLION on a football team would have not spent any time at all doing some of this leading up to the January 4 date. And not just him, but his key advisors. 

Quote:No I understand that concept very well. Not sure why you are acting as if a guy spending 800 MILLION on a football team would have not spent any time at all doing some of this leading up to the January 4 date. And not just him, but his key advisors. 

 

How would he know what the true workings of the inside were untill he actually got there to truly observe?  I still don't think you get it.  Observing as a prospective buyer versus being in on every single detail once you are the owner are 2 COMPLETELY different things.  

He just bought a meth business inside a laundromat. Everything he touches turns to gold.

Quote:No I understand that concept very well. Not sure why you are acting as if a guy spending 800 MILLION on a football team would have not spent any time at all doing some of this leading up to the January 4 date. And not just him, but his key advisors.

Huge difference between meeting people and seeing how they work over time. You asked does Khan deserve a pass. Overall the answer is yes. If you want to try and make some small point that he made mistakes I think Khan would agree with you. Ultimately, what is the point of your point? Arguing that he deserves some blame in the record? Sheesh. He has hired his GM and head coach. He deserves to be judged on how those guys perform, period.

Quote:Huge difference between meeting people and seeing how they work over time. You asked does Khan deserve a pass. Overall the answer is yes. If you want to try and make some small point that he made mistakes I think Khan would agree with you. Ultimately, what is the point of your point? Arguing that he deserves some blame in the record? Sheesh. He has hired his GM and head coach. He deserves to be judged on how those guys perform, period.

 

well as said, I still think some responsibility for the first year lies on him as well, but for poops and giggles, even using your argument alone, we're still talking a 4-12 record and a draft that has zero real "home runs" at this point and is the jury is clearly still out on. I've said it before and people mist think its a good point because it keeps getting ignored - At this very point in 2010 we were looking at the 2009 draft VERY similarly as a lot of you are looking at the 2013 draft at the current point in time. 4 years later and we are not taking a more conservative judgment??

I must have made another good point....hence the nonsense above ^^^^. Thats the last resort of people with no intelligent response. 

Quote:I must have made another good point....hence the nonsense above ^^^^. Thats the last resort of people with no intelligent response. 

 

I've said for a year that Caldwell's plan looks just like Gene Smith's. Just because the execution was flawed doesn't mean the plan was wrong. The issue is that you stumble on the obvious and tout it as Revelation.

Quote:well as said, I still think some responsibility for the first year lies on him as well, but for poops and giggles, even using your argument alone, we're still talking a 4-12 record and a draft that has zero real "home runs" at this point and is the jury is clearly still out on. I've said it before and people mist think its a good point because it keeps getting ignored - At this very point in 2010 we were looking at the 2009 draft VERY similarly as a lot of you are looking at the 2013 draft at the current point in time. 4 years later and we are not taking a more conservative judgment??

 

By 'conservative judgement', do you mean troll constantly about how terrible everything is?

Quote:By 'conservative judgement', do you mean troll constantly about how terrible everything is?

 

Where did I say something was terrible in this thread? 

 

Once again, someone who interprets assigning "some blame" as "terrible" or "bashing". 

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Quote:That's enough money to build his own Genesis device.

 

I see what you did there.

 

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Who got a better Bumper than us !!! Nobody !

Quote:This judgment brought to you by a guy who flips buyers for a living.

 

 

So he's like a corporate shark. I can kind of respect that actually.

Just one question for the people who are questioning Khan's ability, culpability and general  business acumen.

Gentlemen.....what the heck did you start with at 16....and what do you have now?

 

Who are you to question the man?

He has removed and hired key people to run the football and business operations.......he's not a micro manager....you don't get to his level being one.

Quote:Just one question for the people who are questioning Khan's ability, culpability and general  business acumen.

Gentlemen.....what the heck did you start with at 16....and what do you have now?

 

Who are you to question the man?

He has removed and hired key people to run the football and business operations.......he's not a micro manager....you don't get to his level being one.

true. Despite some strange moves he makes from time to time, I totally respect him. I mean, maybe he is more far-sighted than most of us and simply can think a few steps ahead. I guess it must be true for someone who went that far that quickly.