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Quote:Others seem to like the Wendell as a Jaguar scenario as well.

 
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://espn.go.com/blog/jacksonville-jaguars/post/_/id/3807/some-potential-ol-targets-for-jags'>http://espn.go.com/blog/jacksonville-jaguars/post/_/id/3807/some-potential-ol-targets-for-jags</a>


I'd bet money that he got that from you.
What was tmd banned for?
Quote:I'd bet money that he got that from you.
I was about to disagree - but then I noticed he did a blurb about Moreno to the Jags today  - after someone started a thread on it here yesterday.

 

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Quote:What was tmd banned for?
 

Read all about it.
Quote:I was about to disagree - but then I noticed he did a blurb about Moreno to the Jags today  - after someone started a thread on it here yesterday.

 

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Ha! What better way to hash out what to write about, than to just go look at what the fans are already discussing?
Consider this:  Someone is signing these “big name” free agents and its not us, but yet we are the parental bottom feeder.  Are all the teams signing big names also going 4 and suck?



It’s obvious that avoiding FA is not helping us.  Maybe embracing it will.



 

Why are we (collectively as NFL fans) afraid of Free Agency?  I understand that sometimes players sign lucrative deals and then production drops off.  But I have a hard time believing that is the motivation of an NFL player.  I have changed jobs for more money and more opportunity, but I didn’t stop working.  I would think GM’s would approach FA just like the draft.  Researching the player ‘til nauseam. The difference being, you can evaluate against current NFL caliber players.  Don’t other sports do this?  The hated Yankees come to mind.  Year after year they sign huge names to huge deals.  They also win a lot.  So the question is…..Why is Football so different?  I say with a $50m cap we sign everyone we can.



The career length of MLB players are a lot longer than NFL players are.

Quote:Consider this: Someone is signing these “big name” free agents and its not us, but yet we are the parental bottom feeder. Are all the teams signing big names also going 4 and suck?

It’s obvious that avoiding FA is not helping us. Maybe embracing it will.


Why are we (collectively as NFL fans) afraid of Free Agency? I understand that sometimes players sign lucrative deals and then production drops off. But I have a hard time believing that is the motivation of an NFL player. I have changed jobs for more money and more opportunity, but I didn’t stop working. I would think GM’s would approach FA just like the draft. Researching the player ‘til nauseam. The difference being, you can evaluate against current NFL caliber players. Don’t other sports do this? The hated Yankees come to mind. Year after year they sign huge names to huge deals. They also win a lot. So the question is…..Why is Football so different? I say with a $50m cap we sign everyone we can.
Which NFL big spenders are also perennial contenders?

I'll wait for your answer...
Quote:Which NFL big spenders are also perennial contenders?

I'll wait for your answer...
 

Well…just looking at 2014 Playoff teams…these teams where big spenders….



It’s a huge list of 2013 FA’s, but one thing stands out.  The Jaguars didn’t spend.  We also didn’t make the playoffs.



It can be argued in circles as much as you like but we’ve all heard the cliché: Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.




 

 

Ryan Clady          T              Broncos



D.J. Moore          CB           Carolina



Dwayne Bowe   WR         Chiefs



Branden Albert T              Chiefs



Michael Johnson              DE           Cincinnati



Andre Smith       T              Cincinnati



Adam Jones       CB           Cincinnati



James Harrison LB           Cincinnati



Rey Maualuga   LB           Cincinnati



Wes Welker       WR         Denver



Terrance Knighton           DT           Denver



Louis Vasquez   OG         Denver



Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie  CB           Denver



Shaun Phillips    LB           Denver



Gosder Cherilus                T              Indianapolis



Ahmad Bradshaw            RB           Indianapolis



Greg Toler           CB           Indianapolis



Darius Butler      CB           Indianapolis



LaRon Landry     S              Indianapolis



Sean Smith         CB           Kansas City



Geoff Schwartz OG         Kansas City



Anthony Fasano               TE           Kansas City



Dunta Robinson                DB          Kansas City



Sebastian Vollmer           T              New England



Aqib Talib            CB           New England



Danny Amendola             WR         New England



Kyle Arrington   CB           New England



Adrian Wilson    SS           New England



Victor Butler       LB           New Orleans



Keenan Lewis    DB          New Orleans



James Casey      FB           Philadelphia



Connor Barwin  LB           Philadelphia



Cary Williams     CB           Philadelphia



Bradley Fletcher               CB           Philadelphia



Derek Cox           CB           San Diego



Dwight Freeney                DE           San Diego



Nnamdi Asomugha         CB           San Francisco



Glenn Dorsey    DE           San Francisco



Cliff Avril              DE           Seattle



Michael Bennett              DE           Seattle


holding back never works in the NFL. No reason why we can't target a proven talent. It could be at just about any position except maybe WR.

Pretty good article on this topic:

 

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/articl...4/15760337

 

Quote:<p style="color:rgb(25,25,25);font-family:'Chaparral Pro', Georgia, Arial;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">Unless the Jaguars sign a number of surprise home runs in free agency and through the draft, Jacksonville won’t be a playoff team in 2014, but they’ll be considerably better. The team has big holes on the offensive line and at quarterback, but if it can come up with long-term solutions to those positions this season, the team could be turning a corner and getting pointed in the right direction.

<p style="color:rgb(25,25,25);font-family:'Chaparral Pro', Georgia, Arial;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);"> 

<p style="color:rgb(25,25,25);font-family:'Chaparral Pro', Georgia, Arial;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">The factor that seems to be differentiating the Jags’ current regime from other chronic failures in the NFL is their willingness to take their time and build a stable team. Other organizations are constantly turning over their front office, but when the Jags started over, they blew everything up at once. The result is a GM and head coach that are on the same page.

<p style="color:rgb(25,25,25);font-family:'Chaparral Pro', Georgia, Arial;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);"> 

<p style="color:rgb(25,25,25);font-family:'Chaparral Pro', Georgia, Arial;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">It helps that the Jaguars brought in the right head coach for the job too. You’ll be hard pressed to read anything about the Jaguars’ struggles in 2013 without hearing about the positive influence Gus Bradley had on his team. After all, teams that lose their first eight games by double digits virtually never bounce back in any meaningful way, but the Jaguars’ approach of simply getting better each week paid off, and there’s no denying that the team was miles better by the end of the season than they were at its onset.

 
Sports Illustrated ranked us as having the best offseason outlook:

 

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/12/nfl-power-r...more-29142

 

Quote:<p style="font-family:verdana;color:rgb(0,0,0);">1. (tie) Jacksonville Jaguars

<p style="font-family:verdana;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Breakdown: FAs: 2.5 | Cap: 5 | Draft: 4.5 | GM: 2 | TOTAL: 14

<p style="font-family:verdana;color:rgb(0,0,0);">All systems go on the rebuilding process this offseason. The Jaguars have a projected $50 million available in cap space for 2014, and they’re in possession of 10 draft picks. Three of those selections land in Round 4, with another three in Round 5, so Jacksonville could dominate early on the draft’s final day. The big-name free agent here is long-time Jaguars RB Maurice Jones-Drew. His future appears to be elsewhere. — Chris Burke
Quote:holding back never works in the NFL. No reason why we can't target a proven talent. It could be at just about any position except maybe WR.
lol. going out and binge spending never works either.
Quote:Is McFadden a FA? Is he worth anything to replace MJD?
he isnt worth the ambulance ride out of the stadium thatshe would no doubt take if not from real injury from a fan based beating for lack of production......overrated if ever rated
Spending a lot on free agents can come back to bite you when it's time to re-sign your own stars.

 

Unfortunately, we don't have any of stars on this team at all yet. 

 

I don't see why we can't "build through the draft" and also sign 1 "premium" player, like Greg Hardy.

 

You don't have to keep spending like that, but to expect your roster to compete for the playoffs with a bunch of castoffs is also not the way to go.
I expect Caldwell to sign 1 or 2 big free agents.  We have 50 million under the cap so no reason to be cheap.  The team could sign Mack and a good pass rusher with barely making a dent in the cap room. 

I think the new CBA is going to affect free agency a great deal. Most players are entering free agency between 25-27 rather than 27-29. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but a 25 year old is more likely to have upside and more likely to be motivated by the chance of a third contract. I think you'll see several players have their best years with their second team.
We have the money i think Caldwell is gonna spend it. I expect one big time FA at the DE or OLB spot and then a couple mid level guys to fill out the O-line.

Quote:We have the money i think Caldwell is gonna spend it. I expect one big time FA at the DE or OLB spot and then a couple mid level guys to fill out the O-line.
 

I tentatively expect he'll tie up between 25 and 32 million of the cap space this year. (just a gut feeling)

  I mean -   IIRC - he's required to spend a significant percentage of that 20 mil rollover.  You can get a lot done with that.   It's an exciting time right now with FA right around the corner. This team is about to get better. 

 

(this dollar figure range includes re-signing Henne, Pasztor, Todman and maybe W Blackmon BTW) 

Jags have more than enough money to sign Jimmy Graham IF he's available. Big Grin

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