<a class="" href='http://bearingarms.com/virginia-mom-claims-her-son-was-murdered-as-he-committed-drunken-home-invasion/'>Virginia mom claims her son was “murdered” as he committed drunken home invasion</a>
The parents of a teen who was shot and killed when he drunkenly entered a neighbor’s home and was mistaken for an intruder believe it was murder, not self-defense.
After a night of drinking, Caleb Gordley, 16, was killed when he entered a home near his own in Sterling, Va. The homeowner believed Gordley was a burglar and fired his gun at the teen several times.
http://bearingarms.com/virginia-mom-clai...-invasion/
I'm sure some on here will claim that this is actually murder...not the simple fact that an idiot walked into the home he had no right to be in.
Why do these types of posts continue to be posted?
Are they to illicit some expected reaction? What's the point?
Wasted effort, it seems to me.
Quote:Why do these types of posts continue to be posted?
Are they to illicit some expected reaction? What's the point?
Wasted effort, it seems to me.
I agree. We've been over this what, a dozen times now? The opinions don't change and you are not convincing anybody to change their opinion on this type of topic.
Why didn't the guy have his windows locked?
Quote:I'm sure some on here will claim that this is actually murder...not the simple fact that an idiot walked into the home he had no right to be in.
Or like in post 3, they'll see you have a point here but disagree with it - and try to sweep the whole thread under the rug and ask why these threads continue to show up.... :whistling:
Quote:Why do these types of posts continue to be posted?
Are they to illicit some expected reaction? What's the point?
Wasted effort, it seems to me.
I believe, most gun and gun rights lovers enjoy reading about criminals or in this case, drunken idiots, get killed by a fellow gun owner. It's quite macabre if you ask me.
I don't know the facts of the case, because that blog post is pretty biased and uninformative.
However, if you shoot someone in the back and kill them when they are not being aggressive, are no physical threat, and aren't even trying to steal your stuff, whatever the other factors at play, at the very least, you are a cold, evil, weakling. I would call it murder, but I'll leave that up to the State to decide.
Quote:I don't know the facts of the case, because that blog post is pretty biased and uninformative.
However, if you shoot someone in the back and kill them when they are not being aggressive, are no physical threat, and aren't even trying to steal your stuff, whatever the other factors at play, at the very least, you are a cold, evil, weakling. I would call it murder, but I'll leave that up to the State to decide.
If I'm at home and its pitch dark but not enough to see silhouettes. I hear someone coming upstairs....he comes up the stairs and turns to either the guest room, play room, or my sons room...and I shoot him in the back then I guess I'm cold, evil, and a weakling?
How was the homeowner to know what the purpose someone was in THEIR house for withour permission?
Funny part is, I dont own a gun. A lot of people who whouldnt own guns have them, so I dont blame people having them to defend themselves.
Quote:If I'm at home and its pitch dark but not enough to see silhouettes. I hear someone coming upstairs....he comes up the stairs and turns to either the guest room, play room, or my sons room...and I shoot him in the back then I guess I'm cold, evil, and a weakling?
How was the homeowner to know what the purpose someone was in THEIR house for withour permission?
Funny part is, I dont own a gun. A lot of people who whouldnt own guns have them, so I dont blame people having them to defend themselves.
You've added a whole bunch of factors. If I found someone in my kids room, I'd kill them too, that's not what I said.
Quote:Funny part is, I dont own a gun. A lot of people who whouldnt own guns have them, so I dont blame people having them to defend themselves.
If you don't own a gun, how are you going to shoot them?
Don't tread on me.
'Murica!
Quote:Don't tread on me.
'Murica!
Above all else, if you get drunk, stay in your house.
A lot of you are missing the point, WHY was a 16 yo Drunk in the 1st place and WHY did he ignore a warning shot?
Quote:Above all else, if you get drunk, stay in your house.
Well.....at least stay out of others houses that you haven't received consent to enter :whistling:
Quote:A lot of you are missing the point, WHY was a 16 yo Drunk in the 1st place and WHY did he ignore a warning shot?
Did you not drink when you were 16? If so, did you ever get real drunk, so drunk you didn't even know where you were? If so, how were your reflexes?
Quote:Did you not drink when you were 16? If so, did you ever get real drunk, so drunk you didn't even know where you were? If so, how were your reflexes?
Never got drunk when I was 16, yeah my Granddad gave me a JD and coke and I spent the night puking it up
Quote:Did you not drink when you were 16? If so, did you ever get real drunk, so drunk you didn't even know where you were? If so, how were your reflexes?
I did. Several times....not once did I manage to break into another's home. Not even close.
Quote:Never got drunk when I was 16, yeah my Granddad gave me a JD and coke and I spent the night puking it up
I was able to buy liquor from The Village Saloon drive-through in Orange Park when I was 16. I got stinking drunk more than once, the worst time I woke the morning after in my girlfriend's front yard, drenched in dew. I didn't wake up on my own, her father woke me up with a kick to my rear end when he came upon me while retrieving the morning paper. As so ended the romance of a lifetime.
That girl told me later that I had woken her up by knocking on her window around 4 am, and she told me to go away. I have no recollection of how I got there, only that I was at a party a mile away, where I had left my car. I could have very easily ended up like the young man in the story that prompted this thread. Her dad was military, though, and likely had training that may have prevented him from shooting me, but who knows?
In the old testament if a man came into your house at night then it was assumed his intention to murder if necessary, whether the primary motive was to steal or not. It is the same in all cultures, and hasn't changed. You break into someones house at night, you might get shot, and the homeowner is not responsible or held liable cause it was your fault.
The mom should be getting in trouble for allowing her 16 year old son out late at night to drink. Hes a minor, not only did she fail to raise him in the way he should go, but she practically kicked him down the wrong road by not imposing any standards. This woman should be in jail, not the man who defended his home against an invader at night. There is a reason there is a drinking age, and its not 'just because'. I feel bad for the kid and the guy who shot him, but the mother? I hope she gains some awareness, cause at the end of the day, her sons death is her fault.