Quote:How much would it cost us to move up 2 spots? Swap firsts and a 3rd? Idk
In this draft? More than that. Probably significantly. Thats why I say call their bluff. Do not trade that kind of huge deal for one player.
Worst that happens is we either take Clowney at 3 or trade down and still get Bortles.
Quote:I'm wondering if they are just seeing if they can jack a team for their whole next 3 drafts RGIII style.
Um....thats EXACTLY what they are doing.....and its the smart move.
Houston is trying to get us back for dumping an injured Boselli on them. (-:
Obviously they think someone may be dumb enough to go after Bridgewater, who (like the rest) isn't a slam dunk prospect. It would appear they don't believe the value is there, and don't feel there's much difference among the top QBs. Wouldn't want to make the Carr mistake again, after all. Two of the first three overdrafted QBs out of desperation in 2002, while Julius Peppers was the best of the three.
History may repeat itself.
Quote:In this draft? More than that. Probably significantly. Thats why I say call their bluff. Do not trade that kind of huge deal for one player.
Worst that happens is we either take Clowney at 3 or trade down and still get Bortles.
Umm, Clowney would be the only guy worth moving up for. There's certainly no Griffin caliber QB talent (pre-injury, of course) in this draft. But there is a sucker born every minute, so there's always a chance. All it takes is a (very paranoid) one.
Quote:Obviously they think someone may be dumb enough to go after Bridgewater, who (like the rest) isn't a slam dunk prospect. It would appear they don't believe the value is there, and don't feel there's much difference among the top QBs. Wouldn't want to make the Carr mistake again, after all. Two of the first three overdrafted QBs out of desperation in 2002, while Julius Peppers was the best of the three.
History may repeat itself.
You may have a good point there sir.
Go with me here; they may like Bortles. .trading with us allows them a few extra picks and still time to get Bortles..makes sense. Only scenario I see us getting TB. Cleveland has more ammo than us
Quote:Obviously they think someone may be dumb enough to go after Bridgewater, who (like the rest) isn't a slam dunk prospect. It would appear they don't believe the value is there, and don't feel there's much difference among the top QBs. Wouldn't want to make the Carr mistake again, after all. Two of the first three overdrafted QBs out of desperation in 2002, while Julius Peppers was the best of the three.
History may repeat itself.
Yea, good point man
If Dave does decide to make an offer? What would you be comfortable giving up? I might be willing to give a 3rd round.....but not our early 2nd or next year's 1st.
Quote:LOL, people are weird..
Agreed.
Quote:If Dave does decide to make an offer? What would you be comfortable giving up? I might be willing to give a 3rd round.....but not our early 2nd or next year's 1st.
Okay, I wasn't going to say anything but I see a few people have mentioned trading up...
Let's settle this now:
There is a 0% chance Dave trades with Houston for the first pick.
Zero.
Quite frankly, there is no one in this draft worth trading up from 3 to get.
I've been saying for a month that Houston won't take Bridgewater.
Many of you lolz'd at me. I'm guessing as the draft nears, the laughter will continue to dissipate.
Despite the majority of Jags fans insistance on exaggerating Bridgewater's skills to near mythical status, he's just not an elite prospect. He's good- just not worth the first overall pick, and definitely not worth trading up for, especially not with a division rival.
Quote:I've been saying for a month that Houston won't take Bridgewater.
Many of you lolz'd at me. I'm guessing as the draft nears, the laughter will continue to dissipate.
Despite the majority of Jags fans insistance on exaggerating Bridgewater's skills to near mythical status, he's just not an elite prospect. He's good- just not worth the first overall pick, and definitely not worth trading up for, especially not with a division rival.
Yea. I don't remember the colts announcing they wanted to shop their first pick that they used to get Luck
Quote:Yea. I don't remember the colts announcing they wanted to shop their first pick that they used to get Luck
Bingo
if anyone trades up with houston its for clowney or manziel
Quote:Okay, I wasn't going to say anything but I see a few people have mentioned trading up...
Let's settle this now:
There is a 0% chance Dave trades with Houston for the first pick.
Zero.
Quite frankly, there is no one in this draft worth trading up from 3 to get.
Anybody know of the last time there was a 1st round trade within a division for a top 10 pick?
I'd give up this years 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and next years 3rd to move up to #1.
Because I know how to evaluate QBs intelligently and know what being able to take Teddy means.
I would only take Manziel in the first round if he came with an extra first round pick to get someone who will be in the NFL more than 2 years.
Quote:I'd give up this years 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and next years 3rd to move up to #1.
Because I know how to evaluate QBs intelligently and know what being able to take Teddy means.
I would only take Manziel in the first round if he came with an extra first round pick to get someone who will be in the NFL more than 2 years.
So you'd give four premium draft picks to a divisional rival who already has a very good roster, for an overrated QB prospect?
Not seeing much intelligence there.
Quote:LOL, people are weird.
They tanked for the pick. The only way they don't use the pick on Bridge is if another team gives them an RG3 type deal to trade out of the pick. That also is worth tanking for.
There is no way this happens.
Quote:Go with me here; they may like Bortles. .trading with us allows them a few extra picks and still time to get Bortles..makes sense. Only scenario I see us getting TB. Cleveland has more ammo than us
I hope so..I want Bortles if he is there at #3.