Quote:I see no reason why his response needs to be based on some agenda of signing with another team. Any consideration at all that maybe, while having been a bad QB, he still wants to get better and reclaim his job?
Of course not, being bad at his job means he's a terrible person and should banish himself from polite society.
I'm personally amazed at how much we love an underdog or redemption story so long as it's not a Jaguars player doing the succeeding.
Quote:Of course not, being bad at his job means he's a terrible person and should banish himself from polite society.
I'm personally amazed at how much we love an underdog or redemption story so long as it's not a Jaguars player doing the succeeding.
The problem is not personal.
Gabbert is and most likely never will be a good football player. His roster spot and cap money can be used towards bettering the team. If they want to put him on the practice squad for league minimum I have no problem with it. He's not making a ton of money but his cap money is much more than it should be.
Quote:The problem is not personal.
Gabbert is and most likely never will be a good football player. His roster spot and cap money can be used towards bettering the team. If they want to put him on the practice squad for league minimum I have no problem with it. He's not making a ton of money but his cap money is much more than it should be.
This thread is entirely personal. The OP is railing at a young man for expressing that he wants to be good at his job. That's an absurd level of "personal."
Quote:Alright. Go. 1000 reasons why blaine gabbert shouldn't be back. Number them please.
1. Not a good QB
2. Not a good QB
3. Not a good QB
Shall we continue?
I can name some valid reason
1. 0 pocket awareness
2. Plays Scared: He is the master at the duck and run maneuver.
3. Horrible Accuracy. He makes Henne look like Joe Montana
4. Bad Decision making: He finished the season with 1 td and 7 ints. A 38 rating. His career rating is a 66
5. He is not a leader: Henne atleast has command of the offense. Gabbert looks like a deer in headlights
I don't know Gabbert personally but I can say he is a horrible NFL QB. His best move maybe going to the CFL
Quote:I can name some valid reason
1. 0 pocket awareness
2. Plays Scared: He is the master at the duck and run maneuver.
3. Horrible Accuracy. He makes Henne look like Joe Montana
4. Bad Decision making: He finished the season with 1 td and 7 ints. A 38 rating. His career rating is a 66
5. He is not a leader: Henne atleast has command of the offense. Gabbert looks like a deer in headlights
I don't know Gabbert personally but I can say he is a horrible NFL QB. His best move maybe going to the CFL
Yet he's won football games in this league.
That doesn't mean he's a good QB or a starter.
It's just that your hyperbole doesn't quite fit. If he were as bad as you exaggerate, he couldn't have won a single game and wouldn't have been graded well enough to even be drafted, let alone start in college.
Quote:This thread is entirely personal. The OP is railing at a young man for expressing that he wants to be good at his job. That's an absurd level of "personal."
Plus, he did make a roster in 2013. Can't say that about everyone who wants to play QB in the NFL.
Quote:Honest question: Name me a single QB drafted in the top-3 in the last 5, heck last 10 years who has had to 'compete' for his starting job with another young QB who already has a 3-year headstart on him? If you can't, then I'm wondering what your point is exactly Meister...
Listen, if the Jaguars are going to gamble with their very first pick on a QB, and bet the future of this entire franchise on him, then surely you agree that every other QB on our roster(from Gabbert to Henne to Stanzi) needs to know their role from day one: backup.
All I'm saying is that Blaine seems to be the only one in Jacksonville who doesn't know or get that. Ie, this is either a case of ignorance or arrogance, which do you think Meister?
Honest questions: Do you think knowing what they know now, that the Chargers would have kept Drew Brees and traded Philip Rivers? Do you think Tom Brady should have returned to the bench when Drew Bledsoe became healthy? Do you think Rich Gannon should have conceded the fact that he would be a back up his whole career?
You see what I did there?
If you bother to respond and ask me what my point is, please have the decency to read my first reply to you and not just quote the one line that evidently offended you. The answers to your strawman argument reply were there if you cared to look.
There is no advantage to cutting Blaine now. As of right now, he's the only QB under contract with the team. Henne is the best FA QB available (extremely weak year) and I wouldn't be shocked if some foolish team paid him starters money as a band-aid stopgap. I doubt Caldwell would match in that situation, so keeping Gabbert for now is the best strategy to maintain flexibility. No brainer.
There are FA Qb's that'll probably be taken over Henne. Like McCown. Jimmy Clausen will probably command some curiosity.
Nevertheless, their is literally no disadvantage to keeping Blaine. The only argument I hear is his contract, which is pitiful, honestly.
A.) It's not your money.
B.) The Jaguars are wayyyyyy below the cap and money isn't even an issue.
Honestly, I'd rather have Blaine on the roster than Chad Henne.
Quote:Yet he's won football games in this league.
That doesn't mean he's a good QB or a starter.
It's just that your hyperbole doesn't quite fit. If he were as bad as you exaggerate, he couldn't have won a single game and wouldn't have been graded well enough to even be drafted, let alone start in college.
Hyperbole? It's the flat out truth. If your too stupid or too blind too see it thats on you.
Quote:Its arrogant to say" I have 1 year left on my contract i don't see no reason i wont be back" ! This ain't about his contract, that's already a waste of money ! its about his play, and i can name a 1000 reason why he shouldn't be back !
What's he supposed to say? "Yeah, I know I'm under contract, but I'd rather these guys just cut me now."
I think he could be traded, but probably not for anything more than a seventh-round pick. Maybe a sixth if a couple of teams are interested. Hey, Cade McNown was worth a six in trade, and he once benched himself out of anger.
Quote:What's he supposed to say? "Yeah, I know I'm under contract, but I'd rather these guys just cut me now."
I think he could be traded, but probably not for anything more than a seventh-round pick. Maybe a sixth if a couple of teams are interested. Hey, Cade McNown was worth a six in trade, and he once benched himself out of anger.
exactly this is not a big deal
I would rather he came out and said I'm fighting for my job than whinging about stuff.
At the end of the day it is a pointless issue and he will probably never see the field for us in a regular season game again but if we are carrying 3 qbs next year you could do alot worse at your third/ second string than gabbert
if you can fix his issues he would be one hell of a catch. I can certainly see a team taking a flyer on him for a conditional pick and why not
Quote:The problem is not personal.
Gabbert is and most likely never will be a good football player. His roster spot and cap money can be used towards bettering the team. If they want to put him on the practice squad for league minimum I have no problem with it. He's not making a ton of money but his cap money is much more than it should be.
Off season rosters can be up to 90 players. We have a lot of empty spots, so he isn't keeping anyone off the team right now.
In addition, his salary was guaranteed, so there is no benefit from cutting him now either in terms of cash outlay or cap space.
Quote:Yet he's won football games in this league.
That doesn't mean he's a good QB or a starter.
It's just that your hyperbole doesn't quite fit. If he were as bad as you exaggerate, he couldn't have won a single game and wouldn't have been graded well enough to even be drafted, let alone start in college.
I think you are going easy on the guy. He is really really bad. He never won games....The team won games despite him. And exactly how many games did he win? 5?
Blaine's been a bad QB in the NFL.
Doesn't mean he has curl into the fetal position just to please a bunch of haters that haven't even sniffed the NFL.
Quote:Off season rosters can be up to 90 players. We have a lot of empty spots, so he isn't keeping anyone off the team right now.
In addition, his salary was guaranteed, so there is no benefit from cutting him now either in terms of cash outlay or cap space.
You're not letting facts get in the way of an ill-considered rant, are you?
Quote:Blaine's been a bad QB in the NFL.
Doesn't mean he has curl into the fetal position just to please a bunch of haters that haven't even sniffed the NFL.
Your right, He just does that when he is behind center and sniffs a pass rush
Quote:You're not letting facts get in the way of an ill-considered rant, are you?
or the facts that he has a career rating of a whopping 66
and despite getting all the focus in camp and the majority of the snaps before the season he finished 2013 with a rating of 36. He was so bad the coaches had to bench him.
Don't let those facts get in your way
Quote:Your right, He just does that when he is behind center and sniffs a pass rush.
I never said he didn't. Did you not read the part where I said he's been a bad Qb? Obviously not.
Don't know what point you were trying to make with this response.