If a QB has significant issue with mechanics, accuracy, and decision making, he should not be starting in the NFL. This league is not a developmental JV one. Blake is a nice guy, but should not be starting until these get fixed.
No he cannot be named the starter next year. When we sign a quality vet. He should have to fight his way back in. Not just be handed it.
Quote:If a QB has significant issue with mechanics, accuracy, and decision making, he should not be starting in the NFL. This league is not a developmental JV one. Blake is a nice guy, but should not be starting until these get fixed.
What's fundamentally wrong with him are the WORST things you CAN have wrong with a QB. So, you're right, if these are permanant, he cannot be a QB here or anywhere. However, we've seen enough flashes to give him one more off-season to really work his butt off on these things. The only one that I worry about is the decision making.....I'm not sure if that will ever improve enough to be good enough. Decision making now is exactly the same as year 1.
Quote:What's fundamentally wrong with him are the WORST things you CAN have wrong with a QB. So, you're right, if these are permanant, he cannot be a QB here or anywhere. However, we've seen enough flashes to give him one more off-season to really work his butt off on these things. The only one that I worry about is the decision making.....I'm not sure if that will ever improve enough to be good enough. Decision making now is exactly the same as year 1.
Just no. that's a mild form of let's give a woman abuser one more chance of not hitting his girlfriend. Just say no. This is so painful to watch. If he wins via real competition then he earns it. Otherwise, Just no.
Quote:Just no. that's a mild form of let's give a woman abuser one more chance of not hitting his girlfriend. Just say no. This is so painful to watch. If he wins via real competition then he earns it. Otherwise, Just no.
Worst comparison ever.
Quote:Gus was the coach last season and Bortles was off the charts.
Same coach in 2016, different results. Blake sucks because his arm is gone. He's torn something or injured....or he's just broke.
Can't blame coaching.
Can't you though?
Look at all of the promising players we had last year.. The Allens, Ivory was a tank in NY and of course Bortles and plenty more players.. you're saying that coaching has nothing to with why all of these players just look god awful now? If it was just Bortles fine but multiple players?
Quote:Why do people want to get rid of him? Sure bring in competition and if he gets beat out you can have him on the bench.
Way Too talented to just give away. Particularly when our backup is Henne
Put me on the Bortles is injured wagon. He wasn't all world last year, but he was competent. This year that's not even close to the case. It can't be just mental, his entire game has changed. His rookie year you could see the potential and last year there was definite improvement, so I think injury is the most likely issue imo.
Quote:Put me on the Bortles is injured wagon. He wasn't all world last year, but he was competent. This year that's not even close to the case. It can't be just mental, his entire game has changed. His rookie year you could see the potential and last year there was definite improvement, so I think injury is the most likely issue imo.
70 sacks will mess with a guy's head, shoulder, arm, back, legs, mechanics, rhythm, clock and everything else you need to be a good QB.
Quote:Put me on the Bortles is injured wagon. He wasn't all world last year, but he was competent. This year that's not even close to the case. It can't be just mental, his entire game has changed. His rookie year you could see the potential and last year there was definite improvement, so I think injury is the most likely issue imo.
Why do so many people feel the need to make excuses for the guy?
You give no proof whatsoever that he's injured. Why would the Jaguars continue to play him if he's injured? Wouldn't playing the third-string guy be a perfect excuse for such a poor won-loss record?
And how long do you think a Bortles injury could be kept secret? That kind of information
always gets out.
Nope. Look for a better excuse.
Remember when the plan was to sit him for a year and work on developing him? Yeah... that was probably a good idea.
It's crazy to think that just a few months ago, many around here were making the argument that he was the best QB in the AFC South. What a downward spiral!
Quote:Why do so many people feel the need to make excuses for the guy?
You give no proof whatsoever that he's injured. Why would the Jaguars continue to play him if he's injured? Wouldn't playing the third-string guy be a perfect excuse for such a poor won-loss record?
And how long do you think a Bortles injury could be kept secret? That kind of information always gets out.
Nope. Look for a better excuse.
No excuse, just the most logical explanation. When you add in a completely inadequate coaching staff that has proven to make horrible decision after horrible decision, I can see them playing "their guy" even if he isn't healthy. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if something comes out int he offseason. Also, what other explanation is there to describe such a drop off in abilities. The guy that is playing looks like he just started throwing a football and that same guy looked at least competent the last two years. I mean mentally he is the same as always, but physically he doesn't seem like the same player.
Quote:Can we expel the myth that Blake Bortles has a good arm?
You contradict yourself when you say, he throws wobbly, inaccurate passes and then say he has a "good arm"
Draft pundits started throwing out the Roethlisberger comparisons but he's more Tim Tebow than Big Ben
A good arm and bad mechanics aren't the same thing.
Quote:Can't you though?
Look at all of the promising players we had last year.. The Allens, Ivory was a tank in NY and of course Bortles and plenty more players.. you're saying that coaching has nothing to with why all of these players just look god awful now? If it was just Bortles fine but multiple players?
But...it is the same coaching that made those guys look promising last year? Nothing changed coaching wise.
Quote:If a QB has significant issue with mechanics, accuracy, and decision making, he should not be starting in the NFL. This league is not a developmental JV one. Blake is a nice guy, but should not be starting until these get fixed.
This is how I feel. We aren't dealing with some raw developmental rookie anymore. We are literally talking about tearing down and completely starting from scratch with what will be a FOURTH year QB.
If he starts next year it will more than likely be his 4th O coordinator and at least third system if you count Hackett's system the same as Olson's. That is a recipe for disaster for any young QB. He has faced huge obstacles in his development with the O-line performance/protection and lack of any semblance of a run game being the largest one. When you are the most sacked QB it's not good.
That being said, his mechanics and accuracy issues are completely on him and have impacted his play to the point of being an unacceptable level for this league. I have to wonder about injury with the dude.
Bortles will make my list soon if he doesn't step it up. He better watch out.
that's why i was never a fan of hiring a defensive head coach to begin with. all you get is a revolving door of offensive coordinators.
nobody learned anything from the Del Rio era. or at least, nobody was held over through the JDR era, so the noob GM didn't know any better.
basically Khan and Dave Caldwell are learning lessons we already learned years ago
Quote:Sexton calling for Henne to start.
http://www.jaguars.com/media-gallery/vid...a0a8206be3
I agree with Sexton in that I would like to see a QB change, but not to Henne. I know what we have in Henne, a vet backup with a proven background of inconsistent mediocrity. I would like to see Allen get a start or two over the last 4 games, in order to see if he has anything worthwhile to his game.
Quote:Remember when the plan was to sit him for a year and work on developing him? Yeah... that was probably a good idea.
It's crazy to think that just a few months ago, many around here were making the argument that he was the best QB in the AFC South. What a downward spiral!
Downward spiral is a good way to describe the ball he throws.
Bortles will be here next year, but he needs competition. He better not just walk into the job next season, he's not a franchise qb anymore.