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 missed shots downfield 

 

Not Blakes fault that some times the WRs are too slow for his passes and other times they are too fast for his throws.

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I understand. We get it. You're his biggest fan. But virtually everyone outside of this fan base that gets paid for their opinions at a professional level will tell you that you're full of [BAD WORD REMOVED]. Virtually everything about the quarterback position in regards to him this year have now been brought up as alarming and as a concern. Other than the fact that he's just a really big dude with great mobility and scrambling ability has been shot this year. He has terrible mechanics. He has terrible accuracy. He has terrible pocket awareness. He has a terrible throwing motion. He has terrible decision making. And he's just been overall terrible throughout his entire NFL career during the quarters that mattered the most in these games he's helped us lose.

 

He's leading the league in turnovers since 2014. He puts up fantasy numbers in prime time garbage time. He's just not good enough. Accept it. He didn't take that next step or prepared himself enough to take that next step like we've seen Marcus Mariota, Derek Carr and Jamies Winston take this year. David Caldwell came out either the day he drafted him or the day after and said he was an unfinished product at the QB position. That he had a lot of work to do and that they'd prefer he didn't start at all his rookie year. Now we're seeing why they felt that way. 

 

This kid cannot win from the pocket. He's not an NFL caliber franchise QB despite what you might think you see in those garbage time numbers he's racked up since 2014. Right now he's the best quarterback on our roster. Which is fine. That's what he was drafted to be. But as far as the rest of the NFL? He's in the middle of the pack at best. Which isn't enough to get us over the hump in the long term. And I don't want to hear your excuses anymore about pass protection. Were his first two years brutal? Sure. Was it all on the lineman those first two years? Nope. He was still adjusting to the NFL speed and learning a new offensive system again last year. This year, the lineman have played much, much better. He's had a lot more time in the pocket to make better decisions and passes with the football than he's had since he's been here. All he's done is managed to help get this team off to potentially it's worst season yet under Bradley. He's continued to show the same boneheaded decisions he's always displayed since his rookie season. 

 

He'll be here again in 2017. So don't worry. Due to a weak QB class coming into the NFL in a few months and a less than hopeful free agency class he's going to have another chance with the next coaching staff to prove you right and the rest of this fan base and people who get paid to have an opinion at a professional level wrong about him. Do I want to see this kid succeed? CERTAINLY. Anyone with the right mind would want to see a third overall pick not become another failure in a long line of first round failures in our franchise's history and go onto to lead this team to consistent winning seasons for many years to come. But right now, a wholllllllllllleeeeeeeeeee lot of people don't think that's the case. 

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Quote:I understand. We get it. You're his biggest fan. But virtually everyone outside of this fan base that gets paid for their opinions at a professional level will tell you that you're full of [BAD WORD REMOVED]. Virtually everything about the quarterback position in regards to him this year have now been brought up as alarming and as a concern. Other than the fact that he's just a really big dude with great mobility and scrambling ability has been shot this year. He has terrible mechanics. He has terrible accuracy. He has terrible pocket awareness. He has a terrible throwing motion. He has terrible decision making. And he's just been overall terrible throughout his entire NFL career during the quarters that mattered the most in these games he's helped us lose.

 

He's leading the league in turnovers since 2014. He puts up fantasy numbers in prime time garbage time. He's just not good enough. Accept it. He didn't take that next step or prepared himself enough to take that next step like we've seen Marcus Mariota, Derek Carr and Jamies Winston take this year. David Caldwell came out either the day he drafted him or the day after and said he was an unfinished product at the QB position. That he had a lot of work to do and that they'd prefer he didn't start at all his rookie year. Now we're seeing why they felt that way. 

 

This kid cannot win from the pocket. He's not an NFL caliber franchise QB despite what you might think you see in those garbage time numbers he's racked up since 2014. Right now he's the best quarterback on our roster. Which is fine. That's what he was drafted to be. But as far as the rest of the NFL? He's in the middle of the pack at best. Which isn't enough to get us over the hump in the long term. And I don't want to hear your excuses anymore about pass protection. Were his first two years brutal? Sure. Was it all on the lineman those first two years? Nope. He was still adjusting to the NFL speed and learning a new offensive system again last year. This year, the lineman have played much, much better. He's had a lot more time in the pocket to make better decisions and passes with the football than he's had since he's been here. All he's done is managed to help get this team off to potentially it's worst season yet under Bradley. He's continued to show the same boneheaded decisions he's always displayed since his rookie season. 

 

He'll be here again in 2017. So don't worry. Due to a weak QB class coming into the NFL in a few months and a less than hopeful free agency class he's going to have another chance with the next coaching staff to prove you right and the rest of this fan base and people who get paid to have an opinion at a professional level wrong about him. Do I want to see this kid succeed? CERTAINLY. Anyone with the right mind would want to see a third overall pick not become another failure in a long line of first round failures in our franchise's history and go onto to lead this team to consistent winning seasons for many years to come. But right now, a wholllllllllllleeeeeeeeeee lot of people don't think that's the case. 

 

LOL.  Don't hold back...  tell us what you really think.

Eli is definitely going to the HOF. No question

What's Bortles pick 6 percentage within his picks? That's what I want to know.... lol

Quote:What's Bortles pick 6 percentage within his picks? That's what I want to know.... lol

 

20%

 

48 Career Ints

 

10 Pick 6s

 

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Quote:2016                      Bad Throw    Hit At Line  Defensed    Dropped    Other    Total

1 Blake Bortles              71              13               60                 18           16      178

2 Joe Flacco                  80               4                40                 13           28      165

3 Brock Osweiler           69               7                50                 15           21       162

4 Carson Palmer           65               5                61                   9            22       162

5 Aaron Rodgers           75               5                42                   9            29       160

6 Jameis Winston          81               11              41                   9            15       157

 

INT's over the last 3 years

 

1  Blake Bortles      JAX 48 

2  Philip Rivers        SD 43 

3  Carson Palmer    ARI 43   **4 years only played 6 Games in 2014

4  Drew Brees         NO 36

5  Ryan Fitzpatrick  NYJ 36

 

66 TDs and 48 INTs is a pretty good ratio for the 2nd worst team in the NFL at age 24.

 

Peyton Manning threw 100 INTs his first 5 years in the league. 

Quote:He's leading the league in turnovers since 2014. 

 

 

You know who also led the NFL in turnovers his first 5 years in the NFL? Peyton Manning. 100 INTs first 5 years. QB who turn the ball over are often QB's who take SHOTS downfield. Players make plays. Most on this board want a QB like Sam Bradford who's awful and throws for 12 TDs in 12 games. I'll take the upside QB who has 66 TDs and 48 INTs at age 24 who continues to cut down the INT % ratio EVERY year. QBs don't reach their prime until AGE 27-28. 

Quote:You know who also led the NFL in turnovers his first 5 years in the NFL? Peyton Manning. 100 INTs first 5 years. QB who turn the ball over are often QB's who take SHOTS downfield. Players make plays. Most on this board want a QB like Sam Bradford who's awful and throws for 12 TDs in 12 games. I'll take the upside QB who has 66 TDs and 48 INTs at age 24 who continues to cut down the INT % ratio EVERY year. QBs don't reach their prime until AGE 27-28. 

 

You know who also won games during his first five years and had a much better completion percentage along with an above average QB rating? Peyton Manning. You need to give it up man. It's like you're Bortles' personal cheerleader or water cup bearer. It's sad man. What happened? Did you meet him and he touched you on the shoulder once? Since you're so big on numbers. Do this for me. Go back an look at all of Peyton's first half game logs during his first five years and compare them to Blake's first half game logs during his first three years. That's the key. 

Vinnie Testaverde is #14 on the all-time Passing TDs list.  Joe Montana is #16

 

Testaverde > Montana

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/history/leaders/_/stat/tdpasses

Quote:You know who also won games during his first five years and had a much better completion percentage along with an above average QB rating? Peyton Manning. You need to give it up man. It's like you're Bortles' personal cheerleader or water cup bearer. It's sad man. What happened? Did you meet him and he touched you on the shoulder once? Since you're so big on numbers. Do this for me. Go back an look at all of Peyton's first half game logs during his first five years and compare them to Blake's first half game logs during his first three years. That's the key. 

 

spacecoastjag on the left

 

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It alllllllll makes sense now. They probably had a couple of beers and shared a step brothers moment. I understand now. 

Quote:You know who also won games during his first five years and had a much better completion percentage along with an above average QB rating? Peyton Manning. You need to give it up man. It's like you're Bortles' personal cheerleader or water cup bearer. It's sad man. What happened? Did you meet him and he touched you on the shoulder once? Since you're so big on numbers. Do this for me. Go back an look at all of Peyton's first half game logs during his first five years and compare them to Blake's first half game logs during his first three years. That's the key. 

 

When you have a Hall of Fame RB in Edgerrin James/Marshall Faulk and a Hall Of Fame type Head Coach in Tony Dungy, that's what happens. When you have TJ Yeldon and Gus Bradley, it's a little different. HAHA

Quote:It alllllllll makes sense now. They probably had a couple of beers and shared a step brothers moment. I understand now. 

 

LOL not me.  A little ghay. 

 

 

I'm happy to stand by my assessment of Bortles being a good QB though.

Quote:@ spacecoast...don't forget to cup the balls. That's very important.

That's funny. I'm sitting in the doctor's office trying not to laugh. But that was a good one.

Quote:LOL not me. A little ghay.



I'm happy to stand by my assessment of Bortles being a good QB though.

Mods, ban this guy for this remark.