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Here we go.  Time for another round of rampant Jags relocation speculation.  

 

 http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/988062...wants-both

 

Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...

Will it be the Jags? A new franchise? If its an existing one, the only one I can think of, sadly, is the owner of the Fulham soccer club


LONDON -- Roger Goodell wants the NFL to return to Los Angeles and he wants to bring the league to Europe on a permanent basis.

In no particular order.

Speaking at a forum for European NFL fans Saturday on the eve of the 49ers-Jaguars game at Wembley Stadium, Goodell was asked by a fan about going back to L.A. and where it ranks on the league's wish list compared to putting a team in London.



“
Goodell I'd love to be back in Los Angeles. But it has to be done the right way, we have to do it successfully.
” -- NFL commissioner Roger Goodell

"It doesn't matter," Goodell said.

"I'd love to be back in Los Angeles," Goodell said. "But it has to be done the right way, we have to do it successfully. ...

"I want both (London and L.A.), but it doesn't matter which one is first."



Khan on the sidelines looking like Sylvester after he had Tweety in his mouth.

...so wheres the "news" part?....

again, tell me where the "news" is with this story?....

 

THis has been known for years. 

Yeah, he wants a team in London. It's not going to happen. Ever.

 

And the Jags are not moving. How is it this hard to see?

I said it once and I'll say it again.. Goodell is an idiot and he's destroying the NFL one stupid idea at a time..

Quote:I said it once and I'll say it again.. Goodell is an idiot and he's destroying the NFL one stupid idea at a time..

 

I disagree.  The NFL is the most popular sport and growing, while a major sport like pro baseball is withering.  The concussion lawsuits had the potential to bury the league, but he was able to orchestrate a settlement on behalf of the owners.  LA is a huge US market, that can not be ignored; the fan base and TV revenues are a significant growth opportunity.  I question a permanent team in London, more due to the travel involved for the home team there, but it does represent another significant growth opportunity for the league.  Overall, Goodell has done a good job for the league.      

“
Goodell I'd love to be back in Los Angeles. But it has to be done the right way, we have to do it successfully.
” -- NFL commissioner Roger Goodell

 

That is the key thing right there, so no it wont be the Jags, done the right way means he is not gonna force a team to LA or London. Jaguars has not had a black out in 3 years even tho the team has sucked, the jags dont have stadium issues, Jags have a city lease in place. If a team is gonna move its gonna be a team with issues like those, Jaguars are just not in those situations.

Quote:I disagree.  The NFL is the most popular sport and growing, while a major sport like pro baseball is withering.  The concussion lawsuits had the potential to bury the league, but he was able to orchestrate a settlement on behalf of the owners.  LA is a huge US market, that can not be ignored; the fan base and TV revenues are a significant growth opportunity.  I question a permanent team in London, more due to the travel involved for the home team there, but it does represent another significant growth opportunity for the league.  Overall, Goodell has done a good job for the league.      

I highly disagree.. Yes the NFL is the most popular sport in America, but America only. It will NEVER have the same impact as futbol, as the rest of the world calls it, and putting a team in London would only expose how weak the NFL is compared to soccer worldwide. Stupid idea.. LA can support a team, but they simply haven't in the past on a couple of different occasions. Once again, stupid idea.. 

 

Yes, concussions are an issue and have been brought up in a lawsuit, but him settling an issue is his job in order to keep the brand from defaulting. He IS a lawyer by trade.. I understand the need for safer play, but with safer play should come safer, more protective uniforms, helmets ect.. I know safer gear is always in development, but in the mean time, his frivolous rule amendments and fines are constricting the game itself.. In my opinion, he's almost completely taken away one phase of the game itself when he moved kick off's to the 35 yard line, which almost completely phases out the return game.. What's next? You have to politely ask the wide receiver to lay down gently on the ground so you can tag him? This is football, or I thought it used to be..

 

I miss Rozelle and Tagliabue..

 

Of course, those are just my opinions..

Watching the Inside the Jaguars report from Trafalgar Square, I can't help but recognize that both Goodell and Khan are onto something, and it does not necessarily mean a London Jaguars in the future. Yes, the fans seemed more curious generally than boisterous, but there is enthusiasm. I see more Jaguar jerseys than at any road NFL crowd. If the team can at least put on a competitive showing, I see more years of increased popularity.

 

The thing is, I think it will only be popular over there, at least in the next decade or two, as a part time event. It will be interesting to see if the atmosphere can be maintained over multiple games a year.

 

Regarding the home front, I wouldn't worry about losing the franchise. You are putting nearly 60,000 in the seats for a winless team. Yes, it is annoying missing a marquee game, but I understand what Shad Khan is doing. Nothing wrong with expanding the brand into a wide open market...the world.

Quote:Watching the Inside the Jaguars report from Trafalgar Square, I can't help but recognize that both Goodell and Khan are onto something, and it does not necessarily mean a London Jaguars in the future. Yes, the fans seemed more curious generally than boisterous, but there is enthusiasm. I see more Jaguar jerseys than at any road NFL crowd. If the team can at least put on a competitive showing, I see more years of increased popularity.

 

The thing is, I think it will only be popular over there, at least in the next decade or two, as a part time event. It will be interesting to see if the atmosphere can be maintained over multiple games a year.

 

Regarding the home front, I wouldn't worry about losing the franchise. You are putting nearly 60,000 in the seats for a winless team. Yes, it is annoying missing a marquee game, but I understand what Shad Khan is doing. Nothing wrong with expanding the brand into a wide open market...the world.

This I agree with.. Sure, play some games there and generate more revenue, expose the brand more and broaden the NFL.. But no team should be based in London.. 

Quote:This I agree with.. Sure, play some games there and generate more revenue, expose the brand more and broaden the NFL.. But no team should be based in London.. 

 

Right now, with current technology, I can't see it happening logistically. But who knows, in 10 - 15 years, who knows what advances in transportation will be made? If the pond can be crossed in under 5 hours, well, youneverknow.

Quote:Right now, with current technology, I can't see it happening logistically. But who knows, in 10 - 15 years, who knows what advances in transportation will be made? If the pond can be crossed in under 5 hours, well, youneverknow.

the nfl is going to re open the concord airline.... but in all seriousness, the trip from the east coast to london, i would think, wouldn't be that much worse than a trip from Seattle to Jacksonville or San Diego to buffalo or something.... i think where the problem would present itself is the fact that west coast teams have other teams to play in that area that allow them to create a division where as the team in london would constantly be making the trip even in divisional games... would probably have training facilities set up around the US for the london team to use on back to back away games like we did on our oakland seatle deal this year.

 

the only true way i would see of doing it would be to have multiple euro teams that have a division rather than just one team traveling non stop... adding another divsion obviously creates a whole new problem in playoff structuring.

NFL in London can't happen under the current legal structure of the UK and the EU.  The CBA and the draft would be illegal in the EU, etc.  Just not gonna happen anytime soon.

Quote:NFL in London can't happen under the current legal structure of the UK and the EU.  The CBA and the draft would be illegal in the EU, etc.  Just not gonna happen anytime soon.

 

Money talks, even over there. I think they'd find a way. I'm not saying soon, but inevitably.

Quote:the nfl is going to re open the concord airline.... but in all seriousness, the trip from the east coast to london, i would think, wouldn't be that much worse than a trip from Seattle to Jacksonville or San Diego to buffalo or something.... i think where the problem would present itself is the fact that west coast teams have other teams to play in that area that allow them to create a division where as the team in london would constantly be making the trip even in divisional games... would probably have training facilities set up around the US for the london team to use on back to back away games like we did on our oakland seatle deal this year.

 

the only true way i would see of doing it would be to have multiple euro teams that have a division rather than just one team traveling non stop... adding another divsion obviously creates a whole new problem in playoff structuring.

 

I've always thought if any team became a London franchise, it would first come by splitting the season, 4 there, 4 here. It could be two weeks at a time at each location and break up the travel fatigue.

Quote:again, tell me where the "news" is with this story?....

 

THis has been known for years.

Because the quote was from yesterday.

Didn't know it was known for "years".

If you've known it for years, why comment?

Then again

This is not going to happen anytime soon. Jaguar fans have nothing to worry about.

 

The NFL has wanted a team in LA since 1996. Its been nearly 20 years. How's that working for them? 

 

If they can't get a team to LA. They clearly can't get a team to London.

Many Londoners were quoted as saying that our " football" doesn't interest them too much. Too much stop and go.

Although we may think soccer is boring, it is usually continuous.

On the average...actual playing time for an NFL game is eleven minutes. ( thank you DVRs)

It may not fly there. As we have little interest in their sports...soccer, cricket, rugby....they have the same towards ours.


I wonder... Since they drive " on the wrong side " of the road.... Would their NFL games go from side to side?

Or.. If you pass it downfield , is it returned back toward you?


Anyway. IMO...I don't think our brand of football would succeed there. NFL Europe anyone?

But who knows.... Goodell and Khan are schneeeky .