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Quote:You have quite an imagination.

If a business leaves the state, the state gets diddly squat in tax revenues from them. Doesn't take that much of an imagination to see it.

Quote:If a business leaves the state, the state gets diddly squat in tax revenues from them. Doesn't take that much of an imagination to see it.

 

Exactly. If a state wants taxes from a business, it obviously wants to keep that business.

$7M in tax cuts for 1000 jobs. The devil's in the details. This is not the huge win it's made out to be.

This is good for the 1000 who retain their jobs but the other 1200 or so are wondering why they are canned. Additionally, the taxpayers in Indiana are on the hook, and to say not taking money from a company is not a subsidy is wrong. It takes "x" amount of money run a state, and if the state determines this particular company can skirt their share of that, that is a subsidy. That money has to come from somewhere.

 

Then you have Company A and Company B saying they'll be moving too unless they get the same treatment. How can Trump, or Pence, say no to Company A and Company B? You've already created the standard.

 

If you agree with this government interaction in private business then you couldn't be against the bailout of GM, Citicorp, Shearson Lehman, Chrysler et. al. That would make you a hypocrite.

 

Regards.....................the Chiefjag

Seems a few here want no tax, I hope they live in the city, a private road in rural areas will be very expensive to use.


Also seems to be the same people who are upset by government debt, so I'm not sure how reducing revenue will help.

Again... hyperbole is the devil's potion.  Congrats.

Quote:Again... hyperbole is the devil's potion. Congrats.

Are you bothered by the debt? What are your views on tax? Cuts?


How about government? Too much? What is enough?

Rhetoric vs solutions

 

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback...r-plant-us

Quote:Seems a few here want no tax, I hope they live in the city, a private road in rural areas will be very expensive to use.

Also seems to be the same people who are upset by government debt, so I'm not sure how reducing revenue will help.

How much revenue would the city, state, and federal government be getting from the company in Mexico?

Quote:How much revenue would the city, state, and federal government be getting from the company in Mexico?

They could get sales taxes, and any other taxes due on work they did in the US.

I thought Trump was going to protectionism?

Quote:Seems a few here want no tax, I hope they live in the city, a private road in rural areas will be very expensive to use.


Also seems to be the same people who are upset by government debt, so I'm not sure how reducing revenue will help.

 

Well, nobody wants to pay taxes. It depends on what city you are talking about which is more expensive.

Quote:They could get sales taxes, and any other taxes due on work they did in the US.

I thought Trump was going to protectionism?

Sales tax wouldn't be affected no matter where the plant was located, so no loss or gain on that. And if the plant is in Mexico, there would be no taxes to collect on work done in the US. So you could have just wrote "zero".


And you do realize that Trump isn't actually in office yet, right? You're so up in our politics that you'd think you'd know that little fact already.

I thought Trump had pulled this deal through and it was a big win?


Congrats Obama then.

Quote:I thought Trump had pulled this deal through and it was a big win?

Congrats Obama then.

Hey I'm not the one voting to punch myself in the face.

Quote:Hey I'm not the one voting to punch myself in the face.

You're not voting for anything over here.

Quote:You're not voting for anything over here.

Well we've got that in common. Seems what you voted for you aren't going to get.


Oh no a foreigner commenting on America, not allowed unless all positive! We are that thin skinned.

Quote:Well we've got that in common. Seems what you voted for you aren't going to get.

Oh no a foreigner commenting on America, not allowed unless all positive! We are that thin skinned.

Pointing out the very obvious fact that you didn't vote for anything over here is thin skinned? Mmkay...sure.



And can you tell me the winning lotto numbers too? Since you already know what Trump isn't going to do before he ever gets in office, you must be psychic.

I'm happy the jobs are staying here but it's the how and why that concerns me. As a libertarian/conservative it's fundamental that government should not interfere with the free market and create winners and losers. It's one thing to say across the board were reducing taxes by x amount for companies or people that meet x qualifications.


It's a completely different thing to say we are creating an exemption for this specific company in this situation, that's not free market economics.


Someone said states already do this which is fine, that's a state issue local commerce, were talking about the federal arm creating an advantage for one company over its competition as a way to keep them domestic. That's a terrible precedent to set and why conservatives don't see that baffles me?

Quote:Seems a few here want no tax, I hope they live in the city, a private road in rural areas will be very expensive to use.


Also seems to be the same people who are upset by government debt, so I'm not sure how reducing revenue will help.

 

Who said that?