Gus will coach again next year, even if the record this year goes to 0-16. With a full rebuild just beginning, there was no expectation from Caldwell or Khan to have a winning year. As bad as it all looks thus far, the losses are primarily due to inferior roster talent, not coaching.
Quote:I like Gus, but do we want rookie coaches bringing up Bridgewater? Or vets who have done it before.. I say keep Gus and bring in Vet OC/QBC
That's a best case scenario. I think Gus is a good coach. Besides, the roster is on Caldwell, not Bradley.
If we could hire a Norv Turner type guy (rep wise), that would be a steal.
I think if Gus wins games, he should be fired. We need Teddy more now than we ever did.
No,but someone on staff does.
Quote:No,but someone on staff does.
Even Jimmy Johnson (Cowboys) upgraded his staff after the first several years - firing the OC and bringing in Norv Turner, who became a key component of that Championship winning club.
Bradley is the product of Russell Wilson... Caldwell is the product of Matt Ryan...
They both should be fired.
I'll watch Tebow... HE IS BETTER THAN GIBBLET.
I won't watch Gibblet anymore.
Here's my Jag Rag... you can have it!!! :pirate:
Gus or Jedd is not the problem. When you have no running game. A team has to be one dimensional. And then you have Blaine. But honest against a better team. Chad is not much better.
Quote:Gus or Jedd is not the problem. When you have no running game. A team has to be one dimensional. And then you have Blaine.
I'm not so sure that either of them are -not- (at least part of) the problem...
Its just probably too early to try and draw that conclusion.
By seasons end we should have more clarity.
Quote:No, and he shouldn't be. He and Caldwell inherited a roster that was completely devoid of talent. Some of the decisions Caldwell's made have been eyebrow-raising, to say the least, but jumping to our fifth head coach in four years (Del Rio, Tucker, Mularkey, Bradley, next coach) would be a knee-jerk reaction to a problem that was, clearly, far more severe than even the most nay of the naysayers on here imagined.
Now, if we go 0-16 again next year...
If you go 0-16 you should be fired. The scary part is a few of you are tossing around the idea that it is okay to tank. Holy crud man. How the NFL has changed. Tanking was unheard of years ago. Now its okay.
Personally he should be fired for not even giving Tebow a tryout. If he isn't good enough to make the team then cut him. But by personally coming out and saying this, then watching this QB debacle haha, you got yourself into this mess.
Gabbert and Henne would of both been cut by the patriots too, neither of them could beat out Mallet. Which brings up another thought, try trading for mallet? I hate bad football teams no matter who they are.
Fire the third coach in as many years and then take a look at what the options are for finding a worthy replacement.
No coach is going to come to an organization that won't allow enough time to allow for a team to at least try to turn things around.
Bradley's job is secure for the next couple of seasons, even if they go 0-16 this year.
The front office blew this roster up this year, so not only did they inherit a bad team, but they gutted what they had to begin with. I'm fairly certain the expectations were that this would be a pretty ugly season among the brain trust in the organization. Caldwell hired him, and he's going to let this develop.
If the team doesn't show significant improvement in year 2, then you have to question whether Bradley has the ability to turn things around. But, you then also need to question whether Caldwell was the right guy to rebuild the team to begin with. In both cases, this season was a throw away. That doesn't mean they're okay with tanking the season, but I think they recognized just how bad things were, and the decision was made to make the big moves this year to try to get things back on the right track quickly.
This approach requires patience this year because it's not going to get better in 2013.
Quote:I'm not so sure that either of them are -not- (at least part of) the problem...
Its just probably too early to try and draw that conclusion.
By seasons end we should have more clarity.
I don't think we will know if jedd is the answer until next year.
Quote:If you go 0-16 you should be fired. The scary part is a few of you are tossing around the idea that it is okay to tank. Holy crud man. How the NFL has changed. Tanking was unheard of years ago. Now its okay.
Tanking was unheard of years ago??......surely you jest.
Quote:Fire the third coach in as many years and then take a look at what the options are for finding a worthy replacement.
No coach is going to come to an organization that won't allow enough time to allow for a team to at least try to turn things around.
Bradley's job is secure for the next couple of seasons, even if they go 0-16 this year.
Not necessarily. I think thats merely a fan assumption.
I'm not calling for anyone's job yet, but its also too soon to say anyone on this staff has complete job security, either.
Let the season play out.
Quote:Even Jimmy Johnson (Cowboys) upgraded his staff after the first several years - firing the OC and bringing in Norv Turner, who became a key component of that Championship winning club.
If there are upgrades to the staff that can be had at the end of this season, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that there will be changes made. Still, I'm not convinced the problems with this team are tied to coaching. I really think we're looking at a team that's just lacking enough talent to effectively execute ANY system consistently.
Quote:Not necessarily. I think thats merely a fan assumption.
I'm not calling for anyone's job yet, but its also too soon to say anyone on this staff has complete job security, either.
Let the season play out.
A fan assumption? There were high profile head coaching prospects the past 2 years who picked their teams, and none had the Jaguars on their list. It's not an assumption. If a high profile coach sees a bad situation with the team, and looks at the fact that the organization has dumped 3 head coaches in consecutive seasons, they're not going to want to hitch their wagon to that mess.
Quote:Not necessarily. I think thats merely a fan assumption.
I'm not calling for anyone's job yet, but its also too soon to say anyone on this staff has complete job security, either.
Let the season play out.
Still think Fisch isn't part of the long term plans in Jacksonville. A temporary solution because better candidates didn't want to come here because our Quarterback was Blaine Gabbert. At least if what someone said, and that Fisch is only one a one year contract is true.
Keep Bradley, replace (not fire) Fisch. Gabbert has somehow regressed. I wasn't even sure if that was possible. Or maybe he hasn't regressed, and Mularkey's leash kept him from throwing so many Interceptions. Or maybe this is just the year of the interception *looks at Eli Manning and Matt Schaub*
Quote:If there are upgrades to the staff that can be had at the end of this season, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that there will be changes made. Still, I'm not convinced the problems with this team are tied to coaching. I really think we're looking at a team that's just lacking enough talent to effectively execute ANY system consistently.
I wish this team would/ could have hired an OC with a better track record/ more experience than Fisch. It was a weak hire, especially for a defensive minded rookie head coach. Bradley needed a strong/ experienced presence on the other side of the ball. Carmichael would have been a nice get - grooming under Sean Payton all these years..., its a shame he turned us down.
Quote:A fan assumption? There were high profile head coaching prospects the past 2 years who picked their teams, and none had the Jaguars on their list. It's not an assumption. If a high profile coach sees a bad situation with the team, and looks at the fact that the organization has dumped 3 head coaches in consecutive seasons, they're not going to want to hitch their wagon to that mess.
The high profile head coaches avoided the Jax situation because either A. They weren't even contacted (Reid), B. They didn't have the guts to prove their "reputations" with a situation that might have actually taken some mettle....
None of those coaches avoided Jacksonville because they quickly fired Mularkey.
Quote:I wish this team would/ could have hired an OC with a better track record/ more experience than Fisch. It was a weak hire, especially for a defensive minded rookie head coach. Bradley needed a strong/ experienced presence on the other side of the ball. Carmichael would have been a nice get - grooming under Sean Payton all these years..., its a shame he turned us down.
"Yes, we'd like to know if you'd like to be the offensive coordinator for our team?"
"Who's your Quarterback?"
"...Blaine Gab---"
If you are a rising OC, I doubt you'd say "Yes". Especially if you ever had hopes of being a head coach someday. There's taking a challenge, and then refusing to do the impossible.
Quote:The high profile head coaches avoided the Jax situation because either A. They weren't even contacted (Reid), B. They didn't have the guts to prove their "reputations" with a situation that might have actually taken some mettle....
None of those coaches avoided Jacksonville because they quickly fired Mularkey.
And you know this because you've interviewed these coaches as you're bagging their lunch?