Quote:The question one must ask is did Gus do better than Mularkey. (Who many felt deserved the can). Mularkey was 2-14. If you cant do better than that or at least look competitive (another mark on Mularkey) then you should be shown the Door.
Mularkey had a history of failure. His hiring in the first place was a bad move. Gus Bradley is new, and deserves some time. This roster
is bad. As someone said, Vince Lombardi would have this team at 0-4 right now too. And we
had to get rid of Gene Smith. And we
could not tie a new GM to Mularkey.
Quote:Let me start out by saying that I'm a huge Bradley fan and loved the hire. I'm not condoning the idea of canning him after one season, but they were talking about his job security on Fox Sports a few minutes ago. Basically, they were saying that if the Jaguars finish either 1-15 or 0-16, then changes have to be considered for the 3rd time in 3 years. While I'm against giving somebody a maximum of one season to prove themselves as an HC (Unless your name rhymes with Like Tularkey), is it a possibility? If this team somehow finds a way to lose 16 games, do they really have a choice?
He's not going to be on the hot seat even at 0-16, but he should be. Not only does this team have zero talent, but its very undisciplined, they have issues with personnel packages, and generally look woefully unprepared and uncoached. If you isolate the horrific talent, which I understand you can't and just look at the things he can control, Bradley has not done well at all, and frankly looks way over his head.
I seriously doubt that he's ever a successful head coach and I predict he is back as a NFL DC within 3 years.
I think Gus is fine. Look at how he has the defense working; it's incredible that they're even playing at the level they are.
And this is a battered and bruised defense that was pretty much gutted in the off-season. When he gets an ounce of talent on that line and at LB the defense will be a force. Add in all the pieces we have on offense when we get Bridgewater and this is a 10-6 team next year--
Oh look... There's me getting myself all excited about next year again..
Quote:The question one must ask is did Gus do better than Mularkey. (Who many felt deserved the can). Mularkey was 2-14. If you cant do better than that or at least look competitive (another mark on Mularkey) then you should be shown the Door.
If the Jags go 0-16, the head coach should be fired, no matter who it is/ no matter the circumstances.
Think Rod Marinelli.
Quote:He's not in any hot seat this season even if it's 0 - 16. You can't just rotate coaches like a revolving door. Mularkey was a lost dog as a head coach where Gus knows what he's looking for. He did it with Pete Carroll from the get-go and he'll do it again.
Disagree with the first sentence.
Quote:Even Mularkey went 2-14. Don't care they gutted the roster because that sounds like a me problem. We can't go 0-16 and right now it's not one team in the league we can beat; Rams is our best chance. I really wish Caldwell would've went and gotten his buddy Greg Roman. Think the being friends factored heavily into not hiring him.
I really wish they'd have at least -interviewed Greg Roman, and done their due diligence, rather than hiring Bradley off of one interview, which went away from the philosophy that was executed with the Caldwell hire.
Quote:The players on defense aren't quitting. They're playing hard. To me, that's coaching.
For the most part I agree...however see above.
Quote:Mularkey had a history of failure. His hiring in the first place was a bad move. Gus Bradley is new, and deserves some time. This roster is bad. As someone said, Vince Lombardi would have this team at 0-4 right now too. And we had to get rid of Gene Smith. And we could not tie a new GM to Mularkey.
Totally agree that hiring Mularkey was [BLEEP].
But right now we are possibly in a pattern of hiring bad choices for head coach, much liek what was going on in Detroit for years. Having a bad head coach AND a bad roster are not mutually exclusive entities. You can - (and we might) have both....
The Jags were the only team out of 8 openings this offseason to hire a defensive minded head coach.
If this team goes 0-16 (winless), you've got to replace the head coach.
Even if he goes 0-16, I still think he'll be back. It'll be Caldwell's choice, and when you think about the situation Caldwell presented to him, it wasn't fair.
As I've said before, Caldwell's moving the team forward, but what he did to this team this year is inexcusable and something that'll follow him wherever he goes.
Quote:Even if he goes 0-16, I still think he'll be back. It'll be Caldwell's choice, and when you think about the situation Caldwell presented to him, it wasn't fair.
As I've said before, Caldwell's moving the team forward, but what he did to this team this year is inexcusable and something that'll follow him wherever he goes.
Not sure what you mean by the last sentence.
One problem that has haunted this regime and the last was Gabberts ability to display so much potential in practice and stink in the games. He is the anti venom to a game player. Is he the only problem? No Does the team lack talent? Yes Can any quarterback be successful behind this line? NO That said hehas never been able to provide a spark to ignite the team, He has never been able to take the team on his back and win a game. For a brief instant he looked like he was going to take a step forward and after the first two series he was back to the pressure bailing out quarterback he has always been. There is no answer this year and it will be worse then last year, So for the first time I left the game during the forth quarter to relieve the pain of watching the Jaguars display a very poor brand of professional football. Yes I am a Jaguar fan and will support the team but this was one time there was not enough beer to get me through the game.
Quote:One problem that has haunted this regime and the last was Gabberts ability to display so much potential in practice and stink in the games. He is the anti venom to a game player. Is he the only problem? No Does the team lack talent? Yes Can any quarterback be successful behind this line? NO That said hehas never been able to provide a spark to ignite the team, He has never been able to take the team on his back and win a game. For a brief instant he looked like he was going to take a step forward and after the first two series he was back to the pressure bailing out quarterback he has always been. There is no answer this year and it will be worse then last year, So for the first time I left the game during the forth quarter to relieve the pain of watching the Jaguars display a very poor brand of professional football. Yes I am a Jaguar fan and will support the team but this was one time there was not enough beer to get me through the game.
Its why I think "practice" is sometimes overrated. - Not meaning that you shouldn't practice, but meaning that there are some players that are simply "gamers" and for whatever reason are not good practice players, but when the lights come on they get it done.
Obviously, Gabbert isn't that kind of player.
Quote:Its why I think "practice" is sometimes overrated. - Not meaning that you shouldn't practice, but meaning that there are some players that are simply "gamers" and for whatever reason are not good practice players, but when the lights come on they get it done.
Obviously, Gabbert isn't that kind of player.
I played for 15 years, and coached now for 12. The truth behind the term "Gamers" is real. I have seen it a bunch. There are certain guys who look like garbage in practice. Good athlete, but just doesn't practice well. Guy in front goes down in a game and he gets a shot. The guy behind him, or even 3rd on the depth chart will light it up. It happens all the time.
As for Bradley. He won't be going anywhere after this season. No chance.
Quote:I played for 15 years, and coached now for 12. The truth behind the term "Gamers" is real. I have seen it a bunch. There are certain guys who look like garbage in practice. Good athlete, but just doesn't practice well. Guy in front goes down in a game and he gets a shot. The guy behind him, or even 3rd on the depth chart will light it up. It happens all the time.
As for Bradley. He won't be going anywhere after this season. No chance.
If Bradley goes 0-16 this year, he could & should be gone.
As said, think Rod Marinelli.
Quote:If Bradley goes 0-16 this year, he could & should be gone.
As said, think Rod Marinelli.
Marinelli was in his third year. Besides aren't you the one always saying we shouldn't be trying to get 'meaningless wins'. Seems a bit unfair to Bradley to fire him for not getting those 'meaningless wins'. Or do we not want Teddy Bridgewater anymore?
Gus isn't and shouldn't be on the hot seat for a while.
Quote:Marinelli was in his third year. Besides aren't you the one always saying we shouldn't be trying to get 'meaningless wins'. Seems a bit unfair to Bradley to fire him for not getting those 'meaningless wins'. Or do we not want Teddy Bridgewater anymore?
You get mad they don't win. You get mad they win. You get to advance a narrative either way.
Imagine if the Cowboys decided to fire Jimmy Johnson after his 1-15 season. And he had Troy freakin' Aikman at QB.
Or if they had fired Tom freakin Landry after his first year when they went winless. 0-11-1.
He will be here next year even if we go 0-16.
Mularkey was a 1 and done because he was tied to Gene Smith. Bradley and Caldwell are tied together, both will be given probably 3 years unless we are a complete disaster again next year.
Its not his fault that he was left with the most talent depleted roster in the NFL. As ive said before, having the worst QB and the worst interior oline is the worst combination an offense can have. The interior line doesnt allow the running game to take pressure off the bad QB.
Despite what the stats look like the defense is much improved for the future. We have young talent and Gus showed how he can develope players at Seattle, give it some time.
Gus will get 3 years before being judged...You can't change the system and style of coaching every year and expect the team to play well...Continuity is a key fundamental to growth...changing the coaching staff and system next year would be another setback
A season without progress gets Bradley in a serious discussion with Khan and Caldwell. Fired? No. But changes will be made. Bank on it.
Quote:If Bradley goes 0-16 this year, he could & should be gone.
As said, think Rod Marinelli.
Won't happen, and shouldn't.
Quote:Marinelli was in his third year. Besides aren't you the one always saying we shouldn't be trying to get 'meaningless wins'. Seems a bit unfair to Bradley to fire him for not getting those 'meaningless wins'. Or do we not want Teddy Bridgewater anymore?
The above notwithstanding....0-16 should get anyone fired.
Even 1-15 I'd keep Bradley around. Even Jimmy Johnson went 1-15....But totally winless, I don't know how you could sell that.
Have there ever been a head coach kept around after a totally winless season in the NFL?
Quote:The above notwithstanding....0-16 should get anyone fired.
Even 1-15 I'd keep Bradley around. Even Jimmy Johnson went 1-15....But totally winless, I don't know how you could sell that.
Have there ever been a head coach kept around after a totally winless season in the NFL?
Tom Landry.