(06-13-2017, 04:57 AM)fredalwaysajag Wrote: [ -> ]If anything, maybe Feeney over Smoot. I kinda like guys like Omamamay and Shatley. Bowanko. Chris Reed. I know it seems like make shift depth but when u consider Gennesy and Watford, somewherr in there I would think lies the answer. 5 guys that may start across the line are Albert, Cann, Linder, Parnell and Robinson. We should be ok. Wish we woulda brought in QB comp though. Cap...
I can see this line-up as well.
Should Cam take over at RT, there's sure to be quite a battle between Parnell, Omameh, Watford and Cann for one or two G spots depending on what they do with Linder. Cann is a rather weak run blocker so he's not exactly guaranteed a starting role. For Parnell's sake, his roster spot may depend on him starting at either RT or RG.
As for Gennessy, I'm reserving him a spot on the Practice Squad.
They should have signed Alex Mack when they had the chance and Linder could have stayed at guard.
(06-13-2017, 11:04 AM)BklynJag Wrote: [ -> ]They should have signed Alex Mack when they had the chance and Linder could have stayed at guard.
They established a price point that they were willing to go to with Mack, and he signed with Atlanta for a bigger deal. Not worth a bidding war.
(06-13-2017, 08:42 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Knowing this team is always willing to sign guys that are an upgrade at any position they feel needs it, isn't it possible that the only reason a quality interior lineman wasn't signed is because they didn't see anyone out there that they felt fit the bill?
I agree on both points, FBT. I'm just wondering the team isn't wrong with its decision making here.
So far we have one guy that this knucklehead thinks is a proven interior o lineman: Linder. There are three interior line spots. We need a good interior if we are going to go from having an awful run game to having power run game be focus of offense.
(06-13-2017, 02:01 PM)TealHammer Wrote: [ -> ] (06-13-2017, 08:42 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Knowing this team is always willing to sign guys that are an upgrade at any position they feel needs it, isn't it possible that the only reason a quality interior lineman wasn't signed is because they didn't see anyone out there that they felt fit the bill?
I agree on both points, FBT. I'm just wondering the team isn't wrong with its decision making here.
So far we have one guy that this knucklehead thinks is a proven interior o lineman: Linder. There are three interior line spots. We need a good interior if we are going to go from having an awful run game to having power run game be focus of offense.
They're either right or they're wrong. Only time will tell. Either we trust Coughlin's decision based on what his perception of the talent available was, or we don't. Since Coughlin has historically been adept at identifying talent on the line, I'm going to trust his judgment on this for now until proven otherwise.
I'm also of the opinion that the Jaguars should have taken Feeney in the 3rd round ahead of Smoot. Smoot will probably end up being a solid rotational guy on the defensive line, but the need for offensive line help was much greater. Feeney may never be an all-pro, but most scouts felt he was capable of starting on day 1 and being very reliable at the guard position. Even though the team got rid of Alualu, Odrick and Marks, the defensive line is still probably the strongest position on the team.
(06-13-2017, 02:27 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm also of the opinion that the Jaguars should have taken Feeney in the 3rd round ahead of Smoot. Smoot will probably end up being a solid rotational guy on the defensive line, but the need for offensive line help was much greater. Feeney may never be an all-pro, but most scouts felt he was capable of starting on day 1 and being very reliable at the guard position. Even though the team got rid of Alualu, Odrick and Marks, the defensive line is still probably the strongest position on the team.
Calais Campbell was absolutely gushing about Smoot and his abilities. He could be better than just a rotational guy when the dust settles. The team needed to address both lines. They looked at their options and decided Smoot was the best one for the team in that spot. Not knocking Feeney at all, but if you can get a guy who can affect the QB and disrupt offenses, he's going to have more value than a guard, IMO.
(06-13-2017, 09:20 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-13-2017, 04:57 AM)fredalwaysajag Wrote: [ -> ]If anything, maybe Feeney over Smoot. I kinda like guys like Omamamay and Shatley. Bowanko. Chris Reed. I know it seems like make shift depth but when u consider Gennesy and Watford, somewherr in there I would think lies the answer. 5 guys that may start across the line are Albert, Cann, Linder, Parnell and Robinson. We should be ok. Wish we woulda brought in QB comp though. Cap...
I can see this line-up as well.
Should Cam take over at RT, there's sure to be quite a battle between Parnell, Omameh, Watford and Cann for one or two G spots depending on what they do with Linder. Cann is a rather weak run blocker so he's not exactly guaranteed a starting role. For Parnell's sake, his roster spot may depend on him starting at either RT or RG.
As for Gennessy, I'm reserving him a spot on the Practice Squad.
Yeah, Parnell is the real wildcard for me. I think he can be really good this season (don't know why, just got a good feeling). Linder is a real wildcard too, not knowing if he'll return to guard or stay at center. Gennessy just makes me wanna have a drink.
(06-13-2017, 02:30 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ] (06-13-2017, 02:27 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm also of the opinion that the Jaguars should have taken Feeney in the 3rd round ahead of Smoot. Smoot will probably end up being a solid rotational guy on the defensive line, but the need for offensive line help was much greater. Feeney may never be an all-pro, but most scouts felt he was capable of starting on day 1 and being very reliable at the guard position. Even though the team got rid of Alualu, Odrick and Marks, the defensive line is still probably the strongest position on the team.
Calais Campbell was absolutely gushing about Smoot and his abilities. He could be better than just a rotational guy when the dust settles. The team needed to address both lines. They looked at their options and decided Smoot was the best one for the team in that spot. Not knocking Feeney at all, but if you can get a guy who can affect the QB and disrupt offenses, he's going to have more value than a guard, IMO.
Considering some of the other silly things Calais has gushed about so far, I think we should be looking at his endorsements as that of an exuberant teammate and not as a legitimate appeal to authority.
(06-13-2017, 06:21 PM)KYjaggy Wrote: [ -> ] (06-13-2017, 02:30 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Calais Campbell was absolutely gushing about Smoot and his abilities. He could be better than just a rotational guy when the dust settles. The team needed to address both lines. They looked at their options and decided Smoot was the best one for the team in that spot. Not knocking Feeney at all, but if you can get a guy who can affect the QB and disrupt offenses, he's going to have more value than a guard, IMO.
Considering some of the other silly things Calais has gushed about so far, I think we should be looking at his endorsements as that of an exuberant teammate and not as a legitimate appeal to authority.
What silly things?
(06-13-2017, 06:21 PM)KYjaggy Wrote: [ -> ] (06-13-2017, 02:30 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Calais Campbell was absolutely gushing about Smoot and his abilities. He could be better than just a rotational guy when the dust settles. The team needed to address both lines. They looked at their options and decided Smoot was the best one for the team in that spot. Not knocking Feeney at all, but if you can get a guy who can affect the QB and disrupt offenses, he's going to have more value than a guard, IMO.
Considering some of the other silly things Calais has gushed about so far, I think we should be looking at his endorsements as that of an exuberant teammate and not as a legitimate appeal to authority.
You'll excuse me if I trust the word of the actual NFL player over the arrogant armchair GM, I'm sure.
(06-13-2017, 07:33 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-13-2017, 06:21 PM)KYjaggy Wrote: [ -> ]Considering some of the other silly things Calais has gushed about so far, I think we should be looking at his endorsements as that of an exuberant teammate and not as a legitimate appeal to authority.
What silly things?
Calais has gone superlative on literally every topic he has been asked about that I've seen, but most notably how much he gushed about Fowler's athleticism when that is so obviously objectively false. He's clearly just being a good and politically correct teammate, which is in his best interest of course not faulting him. It's just silly to try to glean actual analysis from it.
'Obviously'.
L O freakin' L
(06-14-2017, 01:47 AM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ] (06-13-2017, 06:21 PM)KYjaggy Wrote: [ -> ]Considering some of the other silly things Calais has gushed about so far, I think we should be looking at his endorsements as that of an exuberant teammate and not as a legitimate appeal to authority.
You'll excuse me if I trust the word of the actual NFL player over the arrogant armchair GM, I'm sure.
Lol c'mon man, these guys are just trying to get through their interviews without stirring the pot. They aren't giving their honest thoughts on things. Especially not pre minicamp. Maybe you'll get some nuggets once the frustrations of losing are setting in after the season starts, but right now it's all rainbows and lollipops. And like I just said I'm not faulting the players for being like that they should be good teammates right now, but us as armchair GMs should be doing the opposite of trying to hang on every word coming out of their mouths right now.
(06-14-2017, 08:31 AM)KYjaggy Wrote: [ -> ] (06-14-2017, 01:47 AM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]You'll excuse me if I trust the word of the actual NFL player over the arrogant armchair GM, I'm sure.
Lol c'mon man, these guys are just trying to get through their interviews without stirring the pot. They aren't giving their honest thoughts on things. Especially not pre minicamp. Maybe you'll get some nuggets once the frustrations of losing are setting in after the season starts, but right now it's all rainbows and lollipops. And like I just said I'm not faulting the players for being like that they should be good teammates right now, but us as armchair GMs should be doing the opposite of trying to hang on every word coming out of their mouths right now.
Or, maybe they're just expressing an opinion. I don't recall seeing you dismissing Telvin's comments expressing frustration recently. Why is that?
I swear this clown is Sheldon Cooper in real life. Everything can be explained by an equation or formula.
(06-14-2017, 08:22 AM)KYjaggy Wrote: [ -> ] (06-13-2017, 07:33 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]What silly things?
Calais has gone superlative on literally every topic he has been asked about that I've seen, but most notably how much he gushed about Fowler's athleticism when that is so obviously objectively false. He's clearly just being a good and politically correct teammate, which is in his best interest of course not faulting him. It's just silly to try to glean actual analysis from it.
I've seen nothing aside from the Fowler comment to support what you're saying here, and I don't know that his Fowler comment was wrong. If he was lying about his athleticism just to prop up the guy then whey follow that up by slamming his technique?
(06-14-2017, 08:41 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ] (06-14-2017, 08:31 AM)KYjaggy Wrote: [ -> ]Lol c'mon man, these guys are just trying to get through their interviews without stirring the pot. They aren't giving their honest thoughts on things. Especially not pre minicamp. Maybe you'll get some nuggets once the frustrations of losing are setting in after the season starts, but right now it's all rainbows and lollipops. And like I just said I'm not faulting the players for being like that they should be good teammates right now, but us as armchair GMs should be doing the opposite of trying to hang on every word coming out of their mouths right now.
Or, maybe they're just expressing an opinion. I don't recall seeing you dismissing Telvin's comments expressing frustration recently. Why is that?
I haven't been opining on any players comments in either direction. They don't mean anything especially right now.
Sorry I really don't care to debate this of all things especially at this time. If you all want to conflate meaning into pre minicamp interviews then that's your prerogative have fun. Hopefully Smoot will turn into the next impact big end to replace Calais down the road and we won't regret the much needed potential impact day 1 guard that we passed on.
Between Albert and Robinson, the one who does not start at LT can provide improved guard play, IMO.
(06-14-2017, 11:35 AM)ATLjag Wrote: [ -> ]Between Albert and Robinson, the one who does not start at LT can provide improved guard play, IMO.
From the sounds of it, it doesn't appear that either one is going to be playing guard regardless of who wins the starting LT position.