It was reported that LT Brandon Albert was the starting LT, but after he committed a false start, he was immediately replaced by rookie Cam Robinson.
I don't know if this was Marrone or Coughlin sitting Albert down after a penalty, but I love it. No more mediocre.
Haha. I love it. No more BS!
(07-27-2017, 07:06 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Haha. I love it. No more BS!
I agree. Last year gus would of given him a high 5 and an ice cream cone.
(07-27-2017, 06:46 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]It was reported that LT Brandon Albert was the starting LT, but after he committed a false start, he was immediately replaced by rookie Cam Robinson.
I don't know if this was Marrone or Coughlin sitting Albert down after a penalty, but I love it. No more mediocre.
Coughlin isn't interfering with practices. If he was pulled, it was Marrone or the OL coach, Pat Flaherty.
Typical penalty caused by exhaustion. Dude was probably gassed and they pulled him for a few reps more than likely. I doubt it is some giant announcement of modus operandi.
(07-27-2017, 06:46 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]It was reported that LT Brandon Albert was the starting LT, but after he committed a false start, he was immediately replaced by rookie Cam Robinson.
I don't know if this was Marrone or Coughlin sitting Albert down after a penalty, but I love it. No more mediocre.
I love it, too. As far as I'm concerned fat Albert is already on two strikes. And if Robinson is even close to him in the preseason then Albert will need to go. A guy with that much experience should be the last one false starting in practice.
(07-27-2017, 07:47 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (07-27-2017, 06:46 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]It was reported that LT Brandon Albert was the starting LT, but after he committed a false start, he was immediately replaced by rookie Cam Robinson.
I don't know if this was Marrone or Coughlin sitting Albert down after a penalty, but I love it. No more mediocre.
I love it, too. As far as I'm concerned fat Albert is already on two strikes. And if Robinson is even close to him in the preseason then Albert will need to go. A guy with that much experience should be the last one false starting in practice.
No need to hate the guy. I get it. I was frustrated that he didn't participate in the off-season, too. But if he can be an asset that allows Cam to upgrade over Parnell, we can all rejoice.
(07-27-2017, 07:24 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Typical penalty caused by exhaustion. Dude was probably gassed and they pulled him for a few reps more than likely. I doubt it is some giant announcement of modus operandi.
I may be mistaken, but I thought I heard on the radio this happened relatively early in practice.
In either event, I'm glad Marrone is sending the message now.
Also, Lageman said tonight the tempo in today's practice was fast and intense....a higher tempo than TC's practices.
(07-27-2017, 08:04 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (07-27-2017, 07:24 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Typical penalty caused by exhaustion. Dude was probably gassed and they pulled him for a few reps more than likely. I doubt it is some giant announcement of modus operandi.
I may be mistaken, but I thought I heard on the radio this happened relatively early in practice.
In either event, I'm glad Marrone is sending the message now.
Also, Lageman said tonight the tempo in today's practice was fast and intense....a higher tempo than TC's practices.
Pretty sure they said it was the first play of whatever drill it was.
A vet shouldn't be false starting in practice.
Parnell is gonna start and he has earned it
I also like the fact that Marrone has experience coaching in swamp weather. Our climate used to be considered one of our home game advantages. The intensity of his practices not only reestablishes discipline, but I'm willing to bet he's keen on the weather angle.
(07-27-2017, 09:09 PM)SuperJville Wrote: [ -> ]Parnell is gonna start and he has earned it
He's earned it? I'm not even so sure he's earned his paycheck. Parnell had several issues in pass pro last season, and those issues only seemed amplified with reports of what Calais was doing to him in the OTAs. He's getting paid so much I have to think he will slide inside should the Jaguars end up starting Cam at RT, and I still think this is a very real possibility.
I think we might be "jumping the gun" here; so to speak.
Sets the right tone. I like it. Expectations should be high and it seems like Coach Marrone will hold them to that.
I worked on a research study at UCLA that tried to determine the main causes of false starts and best practices to correct them. We watched about 2 seasons of practices from HS and Collegiate players. Then took players through several other tests and monitored various methods of corrections or punishments. We consulted with a few coaches like Jim Ringo and Howard Mudd as well.
I think we found most false starts were caused by players who were:
A. newest to the team (freshman and transfers)
B. Over 315 Pounds
C. Players whose Db Threshold was greater than +14 (even though that is not considered hearing loss)
D. Demonstrated improper technique (Stance and First Step)
We found the most effective responses were:
A. 1 on 1 Discussion with coach
B. Taking players out of the drills immediately
What was ineffective
A. Push Ups or Laps
B. Screaming/Scolding
C. Delayed Response/ General discussion (calling out the entire team for a player's false start)
I forget most of it as obviously this is not everything and the official study was some 180 pages but it was interesting. especially because most research studies show the effectiveness of taking away time from players. there is something about human being that if we are taken out of an activity we tend to adjust what it was we did wrong. The coach that thinks yelling and screaming equates to discipline almost always has a miserable team that loses.
These are the little things that make a world of difference. Coaches love to come in and throw around the discipline word but these types of things can go one of two ways: I think it's a show until this type of correction is done every time a player. People respond well when there is a clear cut expectation and then immediate response when those expectations are not met.
I have my reservations about Marrone, but I think Caughlin is the guy who can install a clear expectation of integral disciplines in the entire staff.
(07-27-2017, 06:46 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]It was reported that LT Brandon Albert was the starting LT, but after he committed a false start, he was immediately replaced by rookie Cam Robinson.
I don't know if this was Marrone or Coughlin sitting Albert down after a penalty, but I love it. No more mediocre.
When did we elevate to mediocre?
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(07-27-2017, 11:46 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-27-2017, 09:09 PM)SuperJville Wrote: [ -> ]Parnell is gonna start and he has earned it
He's earned it? I'm not even so sure he's earned his paycheck. Parnell had several issues in pass pro last season, and those issues only seemed amplified with reports of what Calais was doing to him in the OTAs. He's getting paid so much I have to think he will slide inside should the Jaguars end up starting Cam at RT, and I still think this is a very real possibility.
6.4 mil in 2017 makes him the 7th highest paid RT. That's high, but it's not crazy-high.
I'm hopeful his pass-pro improves now that he's not playing through injury.
(07-28-2017, 09:56 AM)TheAll22 Wrote: [ -> ]I worked on a research study at UCLA that tried to determine the main causes of false starts and best practices to correct them. We watched about 2 seasons of practices from HS and Collegiate players. Then took players through several other tests and monitored various methods of corrections or punishments. We consulted with a few coaches like Jim Ringo and Howard Mudd as well.
I think we found most false starts were caused by players who were:
A. newest to the team (freshman and transfers)
B. Over 315 Pounds
C. Players whose Db Threshold was greater than +14 (even though that is not considered hearing loss)
D. Demonstrated improper technique (Stance and First Step)
We found the most effective responses were:
A. 1 on 1 Discussion with coach
B. Taking players out of the drills immediately
What was ineffective
A. Push Ups or Laps
B. Screaming/Scolding
C. Delayed Response/ General discussion (calling out the entire team for a player's false start)
I forget most of it as obviously this is not everything and the official study was some 180 pages but it was interesting. especially because most research studies show the effectiveness of taking away time from players. there is something about human being that if we are taken out of an activity we tend to adjust what it was we did wrong. The coach that thinks yelling and screaming equates to discipline almost always has a miserable team that loses.
These are the little things that make a world of difference. Coaches love to come in and throw around the discipline word but these types of things can go one of two ways: I think it's a show until this type of correction is done every time a player. People respond well when there is a clear cut expectation and then immediate response when those expectations are not met.
I have my reservations about Marrone, but I think Caughlin is the guy who can install a clear expectation of integral disciplines in the entire staff.
Would this research be publicly available?
Marrone talked about getting guys who make mistakes off the field right away. He said it gives the next guy an opportunity to show what he's got.
(07-28-2017, 10:46 AM)jagshype Wrote: [ -> ] (07-28-2017, 09:56 AM)TheAll22 Wrote: [ -> ]I worked on a research study at UCLA that tried to determine the main causes of false starts and best practices to correct them. We watched about 2 seasons of practices from HS and Collegiate players. Then took players through several other tests and monitored various methods of corrections or punishments. We consulted with a few coaches like Jim Ringo and Howard Mudd as well.
I think we found most false starts were caused by players who were:
A. newest to the team (freshman and transfers)
B. Over 315 Pounds
C. Players whose Db Threshold was greater than +14 (even though that is not considered hearing loss)
D. Demonstrated improper technique (Stance and First Step)
We found the most effective responses were:
A. 1 on 1 Discussion with coach
B. Taking players out of the drills immediately
What was ineffective
A. Push Ups or Laps
B. Screaming/Scolding
C. Delayed Response/ General discussion (calling out the entire team for a player's false start)
I forget most of it as obviously this is not everything and the official study was some 180 pages but it was interesting. especially because most research studies show the effectiveness of taking away time from players. there is something about human being that if we are taken out of an activity we tend to adjust what it was we did wrong. The coach that thinks yelling and screaming equates to discipline almost always has a miserable team that loses.
These are the little things that make a world of difference. Coaches love to come in and throw around the discipline word but these types of things can go one of two ways: I think it's a show until this type of correction is done every time a player. People respond well when there is a clear cut expectation and then immediate response when those expectations are not met.
I have my reservations about Marrone, but I think Caughlin is the guy who can install a clear expectation of integral disciplines in the entire staff.
Would this research be publicly available?
It's proprietary because the study that was for an NFL team. I think you might be able to see it in the UCLA online Library - It was part of my graduate program. Let me check if I can get access to it.