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Despite the score The loss is %100 on Jags offense 

First of all we have a QB who isnt reliable at make 3rd a longs

The OL was bad, too many penalties moving us back, not gonna blame them on the running game Tenn has like 9 in the box

We have a number 1 TE that cant catch or beat his man one on one, I have no idea why we didnt sign or draft a proven pass catching TE their were plenty out there. When you have a bad QB at least give him a good TE that can catch.

Defense held them and held them but its 90 degrees out there and they got tired, MM didnt have a good game passing but he made key pass in key situation like a good QB can do, we dont have that.

We are just not gonna be able to hid Bortles every game, and expect the running game to run wild vs 8 man fronts and expect the defense to force 4 TOs
Yep, we had our [BLEEP] handed to us by an average team.
This team is competent in every area except that the passing game is horribly inconsistent. As a result teams like the tacks who have no business beating us can load up against our running game and completely shut down our offense. Not blaming the defense you get worn down after seeing the QB repeatedly turn the ball over regardless of how it happens.
derrick henry took over the game. you couldnt stop him. sacksonville is a big ol' myth
nope, the loss is 100% on BB5!!!
(09-17-2017, 05:12 PM)VondyP Wrote: [ -> ]derrick henry took over the game. you couldnt stop him. sacksonville is a big ol' myth

The offense was atrocious.
(09-17-2017, 05:12 PM)VondyP Wrote: [ -> ]derrick henry took over the game. you couldnt stop him. sacksonville is a big ol' myth

Derrick Henry is ok.  Figured he'd be fired up against the home crowd but it's not hard to look good when the opposing offense is one dimensional.
(09-17-2017, 05:12 PM)VondyP Wrote: [ -> ]derrick henry took over the game. you couldnt stop him. sacksonville is a big ol' myth

What does the RB running on the defense have to do with sacks?

At that point the defense is tired, and is asked to stop a 260 lbs RB
Its gonna be a long season if we can't get more than 44 yards passing on a stacked box
their lines were better.
(09-17-2017, 05:20 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]Its gonna be a long season if we can't get more than 44 yards on a stacked box

Gonna be a long season if the coaches can't make chicken salad out of chicken you know what at QB. They are limited on the game plan and we are doomed to be a team that can't beat 8 plus man fronts.

(09-17-2017, 05:20 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]Its gonna be a long season if we can't get more than 44 yards on a stacked box

Gonna be a long season if the coaches can't make chicken salad out of chicken you know what at QB. They are limited on the game plan and we are doomed to be a team that can't beat 8 plus man fronts.
(09-17-2017, 05:20 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]Its gonna be a long season if we can't get more than 44 yards passing on a stacked box

I guess this is just going to have to be addressed in every thread until it sinks in. The box is stacked because we are stacking the box first. We are running 1 and 2 WR sets the majority of the time. Is the defense supposed to bring in a third CB to defend the imaginary third WR? No, they are going to bring in the third LB. It's stacked because we are designing it to be stacked.
This team was derailed by turnovers. The defense had a tipping point that was reached.
These are the drives that led to the wheels completely falling off, you can easily notice a trend.. Everybody wants to completely blame Bortles, yet I see a bunch of stupid penalties completely killing every one of these drives. They scored 27 straight points during this stretch.


Jacksonville Jaguars at 11:51 2nd qtr
1-10-JAX 41(11:51) 27-L.Fournette up the middle to JAX 48 for 7 yards (31-K.Byard).
2-3-JAX 48(11:19) 27-L.Fournette left end to 50 for 2 yards (26-L.Ryan).
3-1-(10:43) (Shotgun) 33-C.Ivory up the middle to TEN 48 for 2 yards (97-K.Klug).
1-10-TEN 48(10:04) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 33-C.Ivory to 50 for -2 yards (59-W.Woodyard; 31-K.Byard). PENALTY on JAX-89-M.Lewis, Illegal Use of Hands, 10 yards, enforced at TEN 48 - No Play.
1-20-JAX 42(9:40) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 33-C.Ivory to JAX 46 for 4 yards (26-L.Ryan).
2-16-JAX 46(9:00) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles sacked at JAX 39 for -7 yards (98-B.Orakpo). FUMBLES (98-B.Orakpo), RECOVERED by TEN-93-E.Walden at JAX 39. 93-E.Walden to JAX 39 for no gain (78-J.Parnell).


Jacksonville Jaguars at 07:33 2nd qtr
1-10-JAX 16(7:33) 30-C.Grant left end to JAX 29 for 13 yards (59-W.Woodyard).
1-10-JAX 29(6:53) 27-L.Fournette up the middle pushed ob at JAX 32 for 3 yards (26-L.Ryan). PENALTY on TEN-26-L.Ryan, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at JAX 32.
1-10-JAX 47(6:31) (Shotgun) 33-C.Ivory up the middle to 50 for 3 yards (59-W.Woodyard).
2-7-(5:55) 33-C.Ivory up the middle to TEN 46 for 4 yards (55-J.Brown).
3-3-TEN 46(5:14) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 11-M.Lee to TEN 38 for 8 yards (25-A.Jackson).
1-10-TEN 38(4:39) 5-B.Bortles scrambles left end to TEN 32 for 6 yards (98-B.Orakpo).
2-4-TEN 32(4:00) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete short right to 27-L.Fournette.
3-4-TEN 32(3:53) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short left to 11-M.Lee to TEN 27 for 5 yards (36-L.Sims).
1-10-TEN 27(3:14) 33-C.Ivory right end pushed ob at TEN 27 for no gain (93-E.Walden). PENALTY on JAX-33-C.Ivory, Face Mask (15 Yards), 15 yards, enforced at TEN 27 - No Play. Penalty on JAX-78-J.Parnell, Offensive Holding, declined.
1-25-TEN 42(2:59) (Shotgun) 27-L.Fournette left end to TEN 42 for no gain (31-K.Byard; 91-D.Morgan).
2-25-TEN 42(2:21) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short middle intended for 11-M.Lee INTERCEPTED by 35-C.Riley (54-A.Williamson) at TEN 37. 35-C.Riley to TEN 39 for 2 yards (11-M.Lee).


Jacksonville Jaguars at 09:24 3rd qtr
4-R.Succop kicks 65 yards from TEN 35 to end zone, Touchback.
1-10-JAX 25(9:24) 27-L.Fournette right end pushed ob at JAX 28 for 3 yards (25-A.Jackson). PENALTY on JAX-80-J.O'Shaughnessy, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at JAX 25 - No Play.
1-20-JAX 15(9:03) (Shotgun) 27-L.Fournette up the middle to JAX 16 for 1 yard (59-W.Woodyard).
2-19-JAX 16(8:25) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short left to 11-M.Lee to JAX 21 for 5 yards (59-W.Woodyard; 31-K.Byard).
3-14-JAX 21(7:44) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete short left to 89-M.Lewis (31-K.Byard).
4-14-JAX 21(7:39) 3-B.Nortman punts 59 yards to TEN 20, Center-43-M.Overton. 25-A.Jackson ran ob at JAX 34 for 46 yards (40-T.Bohanon).


Jacksonville Jaguars at 06:36 3rd qtr
4-R.Succop kicks 66 yards from TEN 35 to JAX -1. 30-C.Grant to JAX 18 for 19 yards (52-A.Wallace). PENALTY on JAX-51-P.Posluszny, Offensive Holding, 9 yards, enforced at JAX 18.
1-10-JAX 9(6:30) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 84-K.Cole to JAX 20 for 11 yards (25-A.Jackson). TEN-25-A.Jackson was injured during the play.
1-10-JAX 20(6:08) (Shotgun) 27-L.Fournette left end to JAX 21 for 1 yard (90-D.Jones).
2-9-JAX 21(5:27) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 11-M.Lee pushed ob at JAX 33 for 12 yards (26-L.Ryan). PENALTY on JAX-88-A.Hurns, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at JAX 21 - No Play.
2-19-JAX 11(5:05) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete short middle to 27-L.Fournette.
3-19-JAX 11(5:00) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles sacked at JAX 6 for -5 yards (91-D.Morgan).
4-24-JAX 6(4:32) 3-B.Nortman punts 43 yards to JAX 49, Center-43-M.Overton, out of bounds.


Jacksonville Jaguars at 02:49 3rd qtr
4-R.Succop kicks 49 yards from 50 to JAX 1. 84-K.Cole to JAX 15 for 14 yards (13-T.Taylor).
1-10-JAX 15(2:44) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short middle to 11-M.Lee pushed ob at JAX 31 for 16 yards (21-D.Searcy).
1-10-JAX 31(2:18) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short left to 84-K.Cole to JAX 36 for 5 yards (36-L.Sims). FUMBLES (36-L.Sims), ball out of bounds at JAX 33.
2-8-JAX 33(1:53) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete short right to 84-K.Cole.
3-8-JAX 33(1:47) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass deep right to 88-A.Hurns ran ob at JAX 49 for 16 yards.
1-10-JAX 49(1:24) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 33-C.Ivory to JAX 47 for -2 yards (59-W.Woodyard).
2-12-JAX 47(:57) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short middle to 33-C.Ivory to TEN 48 for 5 yards (59-W.Woodyard). PENALTY on JAX-74-C.Robinson, Illegal Use of Hands, 10 yards, enforced at JAX 47 - No Play.
2-22-JAX 37(:35) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete deep left to 11-M.Lee.
3-22-JAX 37(:30) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete deep left to 11-M.Lee.
4-22-JAX 37(:23) 3-B.Nortman punts 39 yards to TEN 24, Center-43-M.Overton, fair catch by 25-A.Jackson. PENALTY on TEN-53-D.Bates, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at TEN 24.
(09-17-2017, 05:43 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2017, 05:20 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]Its gonna be a long season if we can't get more than 44 yards passing on a stacked box

I guess this is just going to have to be addressed in every thread until it sinks in. The box is stacked because we are stacking the box first. We are running 1 and 2 WR sets the majority of the time. Is the defense supposed to bring in a third CB to defend the imaginary third WR? No, they are going to bring in the third LB. It's stacked because we are designing it to be stacked.

I don't think you read my statement fully. 44 PASSING yards. Yes we are stacking the box, so that should set up plenty of 1 on 1's for the qb to attack. 44 passing yards against a stacked box in the first quarter isn't going to cut it.
(09-17-2017, 05:47 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]These are the drives that led to the wheels completely falling off, you can easily notice a trend.. Everybody wants to completely blame Bortles, yet I see a bunch of stupid penalties completely killing every one of these drives. They scored 27 straight points during this stretch.


Jacksonville Jaguars at 11:51 2nd qtr
1-10-JAX 41(11:51) 27-L.Fournette up the middle to JAX 48 for 7 yards (31-K.Byard).
2-3-JAX 48(11:19) 27-L.Fournette left end to 50 for 2 yards (26-L.Ryan).
3-1-(10:43) (Shotgun) 33-C.Ivory up the middle to TEN 48 for 2 yards (97-K.Klug).
1-10-TEN 48(10:04) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 33-C.Ivory to 50 for -2 yards (59-W.Woodyard; 31-K.Byard). PENALTY on JAX-89-M.Lewis, Illegal Use of Hands, 10 yards, enforced at TEN 48 - No Play.
1-20-JAX 42(9:40) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 33-C.Ivory to JAX 46 for 4 yards (26-L.Ryan).
2-16-JAX 46(9:00) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles sacked at JAX 39 for -7 yards (98-B.Orakpo). FUMBLES (98-B.Orakpo), RECOVERED by TEN-93-E.Walden at JAX 39. 93-E.Walden to JAX 39 for no gain (78-J.Parnell).


Jacksonville Jaguars at 07:33 2nd qtr
1-10-JAX 16(7:33) 30-C.Grant left end to JAX 29 for 13 yards (59-W.Woodyard).
1-10-JAX 29(6:53) 27-L.Fournette up the middle pushed ob at JAX 32 for 3 yards (26-L.Ryan). PENALTY on TEN-26-L.Ryan, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at JAX 32.
1-10-JAX 47(6:31) (Shotgun) 33-C.Ivory up the middle to 50 for 3 yards (59-W.Woodyard).
2-7-(5:55) 33-C.Ivory up the middle to TEN 46 for 4 yards (55-J.Brown).
3-3-TEN 46(5:14) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 11-M.Lee to TEN 38 for 8 yards (25-A.Jackson).
1-10-TEN 38(4:39) 5-B.Bortles scrambles left end to TEN 32 for 6 yards (98-B.Orakpo).
2-4-TEN 32(4:00) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete short right to 27-L.Fournette.
3-4-TEN 32(3:53) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short left to 11-M.Lee to TEN 27 for 5 yards (36-L.Sims).
1-10-TEN 27(3:14) 33-C.Ivory right end pushed ob at TEN 27 for no gain (93-E.Walden). PENALTY on JAX-33-C.Ivory, Face Mask (15 Yards), 15 yards, enforced at TEN 27 - No Play. Penalty on JAX-78-J.Parnell, Offensive Holding, declined.
1-25-TEN 42(2:59) (Shotgun) 27-L.Fournette left end to TEN 42 for no gain (31-K.Byard; 91-D.Morgan).
2-25-TEN 42(2:21) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short middle intended for 11-M.Lee INTERCEPTED by 35-C.Riley (54-A.Williamson) at TEN 37. 35-C.Riley to TEN 39 for 2 yards (11-M.Lee).


Jacksonville Jaguars at 09:24 3rd qtr
4-R.Succop kicks 65 yards from TEN 35 to end zone, Touchback.
1-10-JAX 25(9:24) 27-L.Fournette right end pushed ob at JAX 28 for 3 yards (25-A.Jackson). PENALTY on JAX-80-J.O'Shaughnessy, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at JAX 25 - No Play.
1-20-JAX 15(9:03) (Shotgun) 27-L.Fournette up the middle to JAX 16 for 1 yard (59-W.Woodyard).
2-19-JAX 16(8:25) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short left to 11-M.Lee to JAX 21 for 5 yards (59-W.Woodyard; 31-K.Byard).
3-14-JAX 21(7:44) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete short left to 89-M.Lewis (31-K.Byard).
4-14-JAX 21(7:39) 3-B.Nortman punts 59 yards to TEN 20, Center-43-M.Overton. 25-A.Jackson ran ob at JAX 34 for 46 yards (40-T.Bohanon).


Jacksonville Jaguars at 06:36 3rd qtr
4-R.Succop kicks 66 yards from TEN 35 to JAX -1. 30-C.Grant to JAX 18 for 19 yards (52-A.Wallace). PENALTY on JAX-51-P.Posluszny, Offensive Holding, 9 yards, enforced at JAX 18.
1-10-JAX 9(6:30) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 84-K.Cole to JAX 20 for 11 yards (25-A.Jackson). TEN-25-A.Jackson was injured during the play.
1-10-JAX 20(6:08) (Shotgun) 27-L.Fournette left end to JAX 21 for 1 yard (90-D.Jones).
2-9-JAX 21(5:27) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 11-M.Lee pushed ob at JAX 33 for 12 yards (26-L.Ryan). PENALTY on JAX-88-A.Hurns, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at JAX 21 - No Play.
2-19-JAX 11(5:05) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete short middle to 27-L.Fournette.
3-19-JAX 11(5:00) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles sacked at JAX 6 for -5 yards (91-D.Morgan).
4-24-JAX 6(4:32) 3-B.Nortman punts 43 yards to JAX 49, Center-43-M.Overton, out of bounds.


Jacksonville Jaguars at 02:49 3rd qtr
4-R.Succop kicks 49 yards from 50 to JAX 1. 84-K.Cole to JAX 15 for 14 yards (13-T.Taylor).
1-10-JAX 15(2:44) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short middle to 11-M.Lee pushed ob at JAX 31 for 16 yards (21-D.Searcy).
1-10-JAX 31(2:18) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short left to 84-K.Cole to JAX 36 for 5 yards (36-L.Sims). FUMBLES (36-L.Sims), ball out of bounds at JAX 33.
2-8-JAX 33(1:53) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete short right to 84-K.Cole.
3-8-JAX 33(1:47) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass deep right to 88-A.Hurns ran ob at JAX 49 for 16 yards.
1-10-JAX 49(1:24) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short right to 33-C.Ivory to JAX 47 for -2 yards (59-W.Woodyard).
2-12-JAX 47(:57) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass short middle to 33-C.Ivory to TEN 48 for 5 yards (59-W.Woodyard). PENALTY on JAX-74-C.Robinson, Illegal Use of Hands, 10 yards, enforced at JAX 47 - No Play.
2-22-JAX 37(:35) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete deep left to 11-M.Lee.
3-22-JAX 37(:30) (Shotgun) 5-B.Bortles pass incomplete deep left to 11-M.Lee.
4-22-JAX 37(:23) 3-B.Nortman punts 39 yards to TEN 24, Center-43-M.Overton, fair catch by 25-A.Jackson. PENALTY on TEN-53-D.Bates, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at TEN 24.
If your QB sucks you won't win.
(09-17-2017, 05:54 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2017, 05:43 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I guess this is just going to have to be addressed in every thread until it sinks in. The box is stacked because we are stacking the box first. We are running 1 and 2 WR sets the majority of the time. Is the defense supposed to bring in a third CB to defend the imaginary third WR? No, they are going to bring in the third LB. It's stacked because we are designing it to be stacked.

I don't think you read my statement fully. 44 PASSING yards. Yes we are stacking the box, so that should set up plenty of 1 on 1's for the qb to attack. 44 passing yards against a stacked box in the first quarter isn't going to cut it.

No I did, it's just that passing success isn't what is going to unstack the box. No one is going to be double teaming Hurns or Lee they aren't Julio or OBJ. The only way we are going to get the box unstacked with the personnel we have is by putting more WRs in and spreading the field more.
I didn't think the OL played that bad. It was all on Blake.
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The Titans did do something special on offense. They executed beautifully in the second half. The Jags offense didn't. The score reflects the obvious with that said.

It's all about execution in the NFL.
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