(10-15-2017, 08:56 PM)Frailbones Wrote: [ -> ] (10-15-2017, 08:51 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]And that's the tell tale sign of a QB you don't want to ride with.
I don't get why people are finding it so hard to move on from an awful QB.
Stockholm syndrome I guess. He's a funny guy with a laid-back personality. Not good enough to be a starting QB. Piss poor team building to have him still starting with no plan B.
What makes you think people don’t want to move on from him?
He’s done in Jacksonville but he’s still better than Henne.
Based on what we saw happen during the offseason.
Yeah he's still better than Henne. That was a completely avoidable situation. To be forced to play Bortles or Henne is pathetic.
(10-15-2017, 09:02 PM)atburg Wrote: [ -> ]If Brees, or Brady were knocking on the door it would be one thing. Henne on the other hand, ill ride with what we've got.
Obviously Henne is almost all suck also, but if there is one thing he has shown it is the ability to put a deep pass on the money fairly consistently. Is Bortles' once or twice a game first down QB keeper or Henne's maybe once or twice a game play action bomb better for the team? That's the question to me.
(10-15-2017, 09:02 PM)atburg Wrote: [ -> ] (10-15-2017, 08:51 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]And that's the tell tale sign of a QB you don't want to ride with.
I don't get why people are finding it so hard to move on from an awful QB.
Stockholm syndrome I guess. He's a funny guy with a laid-back personality. Not good enough to be a starting QB. Piss poor team building to have him still starting with no plan B.
If Brees, or Brady were knocking on the door it would be one thing. Henne on the other hand, ill ride with what we've got.
Henne is worse than Blake.
The point is we never should have been in this spot this year.
(10-15-2017, 09:11 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (10-15-2017, 09:02 PM)atburg Wrote: [ -> ]If Brees, or Brady were knocking on the door it would be one thing. Henne on the other hand, ill ride with what we've got.
Henne is worse than Blake.
The point is we never should have been in this spot this year.
Henne may very well be a net worse than Bortles, but he does throw the ball better, and that makes me wonder sometimes.... neither are acceptable solutions, to put it nicely..
(10-15-2017, 08:51 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]And that's the tell tale sign of a QB you don't want to ride with.
I don't get why people are finding it so hard to move on from an awful QB.
Stockholm syndrome I guess. He's a funny guy with a laid-back personality. Not good enough to be a starting QB. Piss poor team building to have him still starting with no plan B.
We just remember the henne/gabbert era. Don't think any of us mind drafting a qb at seasons end.
(10-15-2017, 10:16 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ] (10-15-2017, 08:51 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]And that's the tell tale sign of a QB you don't want to ride with.
I don't get why people are finding it so hard to move on from an awful QB.
Stockholm syndrome I guess. He's a funny guy with a laid-back personality. Not good enough to be a starting QB. Piss poor team building to have him still starting with no plan B.
We just remember the henne/gabbert era. Don't think any of us mind drafting a qb at seasons end.
I'm talking about this offseason that just passed.
(10-15-2017, 10:34 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Who did you want?
Watson, like Mahomes in the draft too,make a play at a trade for a QB, or sign Kap.
So we don't draft fournette I assume? Already sounds bad to me. Which quality qb would we have traded for?
Watson had a good game today but recent history is littered with mobile qb bombing after promising starts.
(10-15-2017, 10:47 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]So we don't draft fournette I assume? Already sounds bad to me. Which quality qb would we have traded for?
Watson had a good game today but recent history is littered with mobile qb bombing after promising starts.
Like who? RG3? RG3 and Watson arent similar players other than theyre black QBs that can run. Their desire to run and running style are vastly different right now.
Bortles is awesome, stop blaming him for everything
(10-15-2017, 10:47 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]So we don't draft fournette I assume? Already sounds bad to me. Which quality qb would we have traded for?
Watson had a good game today but recent history is littered with mobile qb bombing after promising starts.
Yes I'd rather a good franchise QB than a running back..even though I love Fournette. Lord knows, I would have thrown alot at Tyrod. Brett Hundley could probably do Bortles job effectively.
List of solid starting mobile QBs in the NFL: Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, Dak Prescott, Mariota, Wilson, Wentz, Cam, Tyrod.
He's putting up historic production for a rookie QB and doing so with an awful Oline.
(10-15-2017, 10:47 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]So we don't draft fournette I assume? Already sounds bad to me. Which quality qb would we have traded for?
Watson had a good game today but recent history is littered with mobile qb bombing after promising starts.
LOL......15 TD - 5ints - 2 rushing TDs. Watson is a pocket QB that has mobility. He is not RG3. He is not a Vick. He is more in the Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers mold than other QBs. Keep dismissing him.
BTW.....i guess the Jaguars now know what the Texans' D has gone thru in the last few years.....lol.
(10-15-2017, 11:11 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (10-15-2017, 10:47 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]So we don't draft fournette I assume? Already sounds bad to me. Which quality qb would we have traded for?
Watson had a good game today but recent history is littered with mobile qb bombing after promising starts.
Yes I'd rather a good franchise QB than a running back..even though I love Fournette. Lord knows, I would have thrown alot at Tyrod. Brett Hundley could probably do Bortles job effectively.
List of solid starting mobile QBs in the NFL: Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, Dak Prescott, Mariota, Wilson, Wentz, Cam, Tyrod.
He's putting up historic production for a rookie QB and doing so with an awful Oline.
Most those guys don't run anywhere near as much as Watson.
Bortles looked like a future star early too.
(10-15-2017, 08:51 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]And that's the tell tale sign of a QB you don't want to ride with.
I don't get why people are finding it so hard to move on from an awful QB.
Stockholm syndrome I guess. He's a funny guy with a laid-back personality. Not good enough to be a starting QB. Piss poor team building to have him still starting with no plan B.
What is Stockholm syndrome?
I think there is a good chance we will draft a QB next year and sign a veteran (our roster has only two QBs right now anyway) whether Blake Bortles cashes in on a physical or not. If he gets his guaranteed $18 million, making him the NFL's most expensive backup would be stupid. If you pay him, you have to play him.
PS If bortles had the game Watson had against the chiefs it would be labelled garbage time
(10-16-2017, 12:10 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ] (10-15-2017, 11:11 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Yes I'd rather a good franchise QB than a running back..even though I love Fournette. Lord knows, I would have thrown alot at Tyrod. Brett Hundley could probably do Bortles job effectively.
List of solid starting mobile QBs in the NFL: Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, Dak Prescott, Mariota, Wilson, Wentz, Cam, Tyrod.
He's putting up historic production for a rookie QB and doing so with an awful Oline.
Most those guys don't run anywhere near as much as Watson.
Bortles looked like a future star early too.
Well actually Rodgers, Dak, Mariota all run around 4 times a game. Watson is averaging 4 runs per game so far. Tyrod and Wilson average around 5/6. Cam averages 7. All good QBs.
Bortles had a bad rookie year, a good 2015 year followed by a bad 2016 year and a bad 2017 year. He is very bad.
(10-16-2017, 12:14 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]PS If bortles had the game Watson had against the chiefs it would be labelled garbage time
It was labelled garbage time by most. Still impressive for a rookie QB. He's on path to break the rookie passing TD record pretty easily.
still garbage time. Dont make excuses for other QBs and dismiss your osn.
(10-15-2017, 11:11 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (10-15-2017, 10:47 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]So we don't draft fournette I assume? Already sounds bad to me. Which quality qb would we have traded for?
Watson had a good game today but recent history is littered with mobile qb bombing after promising starts.
Yes I'd rather a good franchise QB than a running back..even though I love Fournette. Lord knows, I would have thrown alot at Tyrod. Brett Hundley could probably do Bortles job effectively.
List of solid starting mobile QBs in the NFL: Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, Dak Prescott, Mariota, Wilson, Wentz, Cam, Tyrod.
He's putting up historic production for a rookie QB and doing so with an awful Oline.
You call Tyrod Taylor a solid starting QB? You should be tested.