(10-22-2017, 04:44 AM)FreeAgent01 Wrote: [ -> ]You are also missing the point that it is an easy offense to defend.
The Jags throw primarily out of 1 and 2 wide receiver sets outside of 3rd down. Most throwing downs we max protect and release maybe one player into only checkdown routes. The receivers run the same basic routes (Lee is the only one who has a route tree that takes him over the middle more than occasionally). The first quarter we throw disproportionately less on 1st and 2nd down and primarily in 3rd down situations. These are things that are abundantly obvious to the ley observer, let alone a defensive coordinator who is game planning. It's incredibly conservative until 3rd downs or we are down scores.
None of this even matters, because Boselli said it on monday lol.
Maybe a couple more passes...
Is it just me or did Bortles pretty much win this one for us. I mean Yeldon (of all people), helped put some nails in the coffin, but Blake had a good day.
Just a note. Tyrod Taylor us 2-16 in games he's been down by 4 or more points. Would be such an upgrade though!
(ok maybe pass a bit against the Colts)
(10-22-2017, 04:08 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Just a note. Tyrod Taylor us 2-16 in games he's been down by 4 or more points. Would be such an upgrade though!
Upgrade from inept people on this board. Haha. Those fans are ignorant. Bortles has outplayed Mariota and Winston this year. Blake Bortles will be starting in 2018. These fans are ignorant---protection was always the issue. Great protection today.
Tyrod Taylor and Brissett aren't CLOSE to as good as Bortles. Bortles can make ALL NFL throws; he just needs protection
(10-22-2017, 05:11 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2017, 04:08 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Just a note. Tyrod Taylor us 2-16 in games he's been down by 4 or more points. Would be such an upgrade though!
Upgrade from inept people on this board. Haha. Those fans are ignorant. Bortles has outplayed Mariota and Winston this year. Blake Bortles will be starting in 2018. These fans are ignorant---protection was always the issue. Great protection today.
Tyrod Taylor and Brissett aren't CLOSE to as good as Bortles. Bortles can make ALL NFL throws; he just needs protection
Say what?
Player GS % yards TDs INTs Rating
Winston 6 60.4 1,259 7 3 91.0
Mariota 6 62.7 1,098 4 4 84.2
Bortles 7 57.1 1,068 8 5 79.2
Bro, Bortles has not outplayed Winston and Mariota. Terrible comparison.
And if we draft Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, etc. He will not be the starter in 2018.
(10-22-2017, 06:30 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2017, 05:11 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]Upgrade from inept people on this board. Haha. Those fans are ignorant. Bortles has outplayed Mariota and Winston this year. Blake Bortles will be starting in 2018. These fans are ignorant---protection was always the issue. Great protection today.
Tyrod Taylor and Brissett aren't CLOSE to as good as Bortles. Bortles can make ALL NFL throws; he just needs protection
Say what?
Player GS % yards TDs INTs Rating
Winston 6 60.4 1,259 7 3 91.0
Mariota 6 62.7 1,098 4 4 84.2
Bortles 7 57.1 1,068 8 5 79.2
Lmao you're missing today's stats for Bortles in YOUR 7 games Sherlock. How convenient of you.....
(10-22-2017, 06:33 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]Bro, Bortles has not outplayed Winston and Mariota. Terrible comparison.
And if we draft Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, etc. He will not be the starter in 2018.
Mariota has 4 TDs and 4 INTS this year. Bortles is better than Mariota.
(10-22-2017, 06:30 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2017, 05:11 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]Upgrade from inept people on this board. Haha. Those fans are ignorant. Bortles has outplayed Mariota and Winston this year. Blake Bortles will be starting in 2018. These fans are ignorant---protection was always the issue. Great protection today.
Tyrod Taylor and Brissett aren't CLOSE to as good as Bortles. Bortles can make ALL NFL throws; he just needs protection
Say what?
Player GS % yards TDs INTs Rating
Winston 6 60.4 1,259 7 3 91.0
Mariota 6 62.7 1,098 4 4 84.2
Bortles 7 57.1 1,068 8 5 79.2
You want to add 330 yards, a TD, and a completion % of 58.6% to your skewed Bortles stats bud?! Or are those Wal Mart cashier stats?
(10-22-2017, 06:40 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2017, 06:30 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]Say what?
Player GS % yards TDs INTs Rating
Winston 6 60.4 1,259 7 3 91.0
Mariota 6 62.7 1,098 4 4 84.2
Bortles 7 57.1 1,068 8 5 79.2
Lmao you're missing today's stats for Bortles in YOUR 7 games Sherlock. How convenient of you....
You're right, fixed.
Player GS % yards TDs INTs Rating
Winston 6 60.4 1,259 7 3 91.0
Mariota 6 62.7 1,098 4 4 84.2
Bortles 6 57.1 1,068 8 5 79.2
(10-22-2017, 06:52 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2017, 06:40 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]Lmao you're missing today's stats for Bortles in YOUR 7 games Sherlock. How convenient of you....
You're right, fixed.
Player GS % yards TDs INTs Rating
Winston 6 60.4 1,259 7 3 91.0
Mariota 6 62.7 1,098 4 4 84.2
Bortles 6 57.1 1,068 8 5 79.2
Given how injury prone Mariota has been, Im taking Bortles over him.
(10-22-2017, 06:52 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2017, 06:40 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]Lmao you're missing today's stats for Bortles in YOUR 7 games Sherlock. How convenient of you....
You're right, fixed.
Player GS % yards TDs INTs Rating
Winston 6 60.4 1,259 7 3 91.0
Mariota 6 62.7 1,098 4 4 84.2
Bortles 6 57.1 1,068 8 5 79.2
Now U delete 1 game played by Bortles. Your opinion is irrelevant. Coughlin and Marrone actually know football; you don't.
(10-22-2017, 07:11 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2017, 06:52 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]You're right, fixed.
Player GS % yards TDs INTs Rating
Winston 6 60.4 1,259 7 3 91.0
Mariota 6 62.7 1,098 4 4 84.2
Bortles 6 57.1 1,068 8 5 79.2
Now U delete 1 game played by Bortles. Your opinion is irrelevant. Coughlin and Marrone actually know football; you don't.
If the running game is being shut down, do you have faith in Blake to win a game for the Jags?
Actually. I take it back. I know your answer.
(10-22-2017, 07:20 PM)Frailbones Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2017, 07:11 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]Now U delete 1 game played by Bortles. Your opinion is irrelevant. Coughlin and Marrone actually know football; you don't.
If the running game is being shut down, do you have faith in Blake to win a game for the Jags?
Actually. I take it back. I know your answer.
Better question: If the Jags are down by 2 scores going into the 4th do you think Blake can lead the team to a win?
As long as the game goes like it did today, I trust Blake. I need to see to come from behind wins for me to be fully back on the Bortles train. I know he has the ability. I never have doubted that. I need Bortles to put it together.
(10-22-2017, 07:33 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]As long as the game goes like it did today, I trust Blake. I need to see to come from behind wins for me to be fully back on the Bortles train. I know he has the ability. I never have doubted that. I need Bortles to put it together.
This right here!! I want the fear of a - down by 3, late fourth quarter turnover- erased from my thoughts! If he can do that a couple times, I'm on board.
Blake it what he is and I'm sure there are more disappointing games from him in the future.
However, my confidence that we have the right coaching staff in place is increasing and I think they will squeeze the most out of this team including Bortles.
The staff's job is to "coach 'em up" (i.e. get the most of out what they have) and to put them in position to win (i.e. pre-season prep, game planning and play-calling). For the most part, they are doing those things well.
(10-22-2017, 08:01 PM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ]Blake it what he is and I'm sure there are more disappointing games from him in the future.
However, my confidence that we have the right coaching staff in place is increasing and I think they will squeeze the most out of this team including Bortles.
The staff's job is to "coach 'em up" (i.e. get the most of out what they have) and to put them in position to win (i.e. pre-season prep, game planning and play-calling). For the most part, they are doing those things well.
From the data we have, I’m more inclined to believe this is actually the case. We have a good coaching staff in place and the are getting the most out of a talented but underachieving player. “Coaching him up” as you put it.