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(10-23-2017, 12:51 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-23-2017, 11:51 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Oh. My. Fricking. Gawd. 

There is something profoundly wrong with you.

I don’t know if he’s serious or not.

I really hope he isn't.
Linda Lovelace just tweeted #MeToo
(10-22-2017, 11:34 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-22-2017, 10:00 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]You really think she was sexually harassed?  I think she found a very willing partner, thought it would be great to do, uh, you know, with the President of the United States, and now she's sorry she did it, and she wants to act the victim.

Again...she isn’t making any claims about who sexually harassed her. The author of that article just put in info about Clinton getting accused of harassment, not that Lewinsky is claiming it was him.


It might come as a surprise to you, but I don’t know one woman that doesn’t have a sexual harassment story of their own they can tell. Not one. Anything from dealing with inappropriate comments to much worse. Unfortunately we are so accustomed to it happening that many don’t see it for what it is. Harassment. Sit down and have a talk with your wife. I’m sure she can tell you stories about having to deal with embarrassing cat calls in public or having to fend off a boyfriend back in the day that just won’t take no for an answer, or maybe even something way worse.

It’s not about claiming “victimhood”, it’s about bringing to light something we as woman all have to deal with.

QFT

I've heard similar stories from family members and female co-workers. Too often they are expected to shrug it off, but they shouldn't have to.
(10-23-2017, 02:17 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-22-2017, 11:34 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Again...she isn’t making any claims about who sexually harassed her. The author of that article just put in info about Clinton getting accused of harassment, not that Lewinsky is claiming it was him.


It might come as a surprise to you, but I don’t know one woman that doesn’t have a sexual harassment story of their own they can tell. Not one. Anything from dealing with inappropriate comments to much worse. Unfortunately we are so accustomed to it happening that many don’t see it for what it is. Harassment. Sit down and have a talk with your wife. I’m sure she can tell you stories about having to deal with embarrassing cat calls in public or having to fend off a boyfriend back in the day that just won’t take no for an answer, or maybe even something way worse.

It’s not about claiming “victimhood”, it’s about bringing to light something we as woman all have to deal with.

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but when you include "inappropriate comments" then who decides what is inappropriate? The New York Times? A Star Panel somewhere? Miss Manners? If you say the recipient of the comment gets to decide, then anyone could claim that "hello" is an inappropriate comment."

There's a huge difference between rape vs. words. It does no one a favor by conflating them into the same category.
I’m not equating rape with words. Notice I used Sexual Harassment, sexual assault is in a whole other category.

Here’s an example of an inappropriate comment. When I was young, my girlfriends and I went to the mall. I wasn’t even old enough to drive yet, our parents dropped us off, so I’m assuming I was around 14, maybe 15. We were minding our own business and trying on clothes, nothing remotely provocative. There is a grown man in the store shopping with what I assume were his daughters. This normal looking guy decided to come up to my 15ish year old self and tell me I had great boobs (not his word choice) for my age and how he’d love to get a feel of them. I’m thinking that’s a little more inappropriate than just Hello, don’t ya think?
(10-23-2017, 05:29 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-23-2017, 02:17 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying I disagree with you, but when you include "inappropriate comments" then who decides what is inappropriate? The New York Times? A Star Panel somewhere? Miss Manners? If you say the recipient of the comment gets to decide, then anyone could claim that "hello" is an inappropriate comment."

There's a huge difference between rape vs. words. It does no one a favor by conflating them into the same category.
I’m not equating rape with words. Notice I used Sexual Harassment, sexual assault is in a whole other category.

Here’s an example of an inappropriate comment. When I was young, my girlfriends and I went to the mall. I wasn’t even old enough to drive yet, our parents dropped us off, so I’m assuming I was around 14, maybe 15. We were minding our own business and trying on clothes, nothing remotely provocative. There is a grown man in the store shopping with what I assume were his daughters. This normal looking guy decided to come up to my 15ish year old self and tell me I had great boobs (not his word choice) for my age and how he’d love to get a feel of them. I’m thinking that’s a little more inappropriate than just Hello, don’t ya think?

The fact he would be so brazen makes me wonder if his daughters were safe. 

Btw, as a licensed message board attorney it's my duty to inform that you had the Constitutional right to kick him in the acorns at that point.
(10-23-2017, 08:28 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-23-2017, 05:29 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]I’m not equating rape with words. Notice I used Sexual Harassment, sexual assault is in a whole other category.

Here’s an example of an inappropriate comment. When I was young, my girlfriends and I went to the mall. I wasn’t even old enough to drive yet, our parents dropped us off, so I’m assuming I was around 14, maybe 15. We were minding our own business and trying on clothes, nothing remotely provocative. There is a grown man in the store shopping with what I assume were his daughters. This normal looking guy decided to come up to my 15ish year old self and tell me I had great boobs (not his word choice) for my age and how he’d love to get a feel of them. I’m thinking that’s a little more inappropriate than just Hello, don’t ya think?

The fact he would be so brazen makes me wonder if his daughters were safe. 

Btw, as a licensed message board attorney it's my duty to inform that you had the Constitutional right to kick him in the acorns at that point.

Acorn sized is giving him too much credit.
I’m curious Bunnie, how did your 15ish-year-old self react to this?
(10-24-2017, 09:06 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I’m curious Bunnie, how did your 15ish-year-old self react to this?

It freaked me out so we got the hell out of dodge and called someone to come get us. I never told anyone but my best friend because I was embarrassed that someone would say that to me.
(10-24-2017, 10:19 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-24-2017, 09:06 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I’m curious Bunnie, how did your 15ish-year-old self react to this?

It freaked me out so we got the hell out of dodge and called someone to come get us. I never told anyone but my best friend because I was embarrassed that someone would say that to me.

A little awkward with the new equipment? My sister was bosomy at an early age. She said it was difficult to deal with until she had matured mentally and emotionally, then she loved them. Of course this applies to girls with a sense of modesty and decency. There’s others who aren’t so decorous. Regardless, it’s not something that guys can fully understand. At least not until they’re fathers themselves. Well, most, apparently.
(10-24-2017, 11:29 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-24-2017, 10:19 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]It freaked me out so we got the hell out of dodge and called someone to come get us. I never told anyone but my best friend because I was embarrassed that someone would say that to me.

A little awkward with the new equipment? My sister was bosomy at an early age. She said it was difficult to deal with until she had matured mentally and emotionally, then she loved them. Of course this applies to girls with a sense of modesty and decency. There’s others who aren’t so decorous. Regardless, it’s not something that guys can fully understand. At least not until they’re fathers themselves. Well, most, apparently.

Very awkward. I was the first one in my group that got them and the attention they brought was mortifying at times! It took a few years for the mind to catch up with the body.
(10-24-2017, 11:38 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-24-2017, 11:29 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]A little awkward with the new equipment? My sister was bosomy at an early age. She said it was difficult to deal with until she had matured mentally and emotionally, then she loved them. Of course this applies to girls with a sense of modesty and decency. There’s others who aren’t so decorous. Regardless, it’s not something that guys can fully understand. At least not until they’re fathers themselves. Well, most, apparently.

Very awkward. I was the first one in my group that got them and the attention they brought was mortifying at times! It took a few years for the mind to catch up with the body.

Well now that you’re all caught up, nice rack.  Tongue
I imagine that Monica Lewinsky's relationship with Clinton was consensual, but I'm not surprised that the benefit of the doubt isn't afforded to others. This movement could be used for a lot of good. It just seems like a large man-bashing witch hunt at the moment, however.
(10-24-2017, 02:44 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]I imagine that Monica Lewinsky's relationship with Clinton was consensual, but I'm not surprised that the benefit of the doubt isn't afforded to others. This movement could be used for a lot of good. It just seems like a large man-bashing witch hunt at the moment, however.

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(10-24-2017, 02:44 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]I imagine that Monica Lewinsky's relationship with Clinton was consensual, but I'm not surprised that the benefit of the doubt isn't afforded to others. This movement could be used for a lot of good. It just seems like a large man-bashing witch hunt at the moment, however.

I wouldn't go that far.  I think it's a legitimate issue, and I don't see it as a man-bashing witch hunt.  The problem is, people who have power over others abuse their power.   That's a given.  Power corrupts. 

I just thought Monica Lewinsky joining the #metoo thing was funny.  Because I always had the impression she targeted Clinton and was just having a good time.  Two willing participants.   I'm sure she deeply regrets it now, because it's probably ruined her life.
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