(10-29-2017, 07:24 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2017, 07:15 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]Vince young 2.0. Remember this post. Will be garbage in 3 years time.
Curious as to why you chose Vince Young.
Watson has 19 TD passes in his first 7 games. Most ever. What did Young do?
Both highly touted QBs coming out of college after winning national titles. Both mobile quarterbacks who have seriously problems with consistency and accuracy. The more tape teams get on the kid, the worse he will look. Pff still has him at the bottom of the barrel on an rankings. He makes way too many poor decisions, a lot that should have TOs. Everything comes to it's mean eventually.
Watson will have a nice sophomore slump. Always glad to see the tinhorns lose a game they played well in!!
(10-29-2017, 07:15 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]Vince young 2.0. Remember this post. Will be garbage in 3 years time.
What about RG knee?
(10-29-2017, 07:36 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2017, 07:24 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Curious as to why you chose Vince Young.
Watson has 19 TD passes in his first 7 games. Most ever. What did Young do?
Both highly touted QBs coming out of college after winning national titles. Both mobile quarterbacks who have seriously problems with consistency and accuracy. The more tape teams get on the kid, the worse he will look. Pff still has him at the bottom of the barrel on an rankings. He makes way too many poor decisions, a lot that should have TOs. Everything comes to it's mean eventually.
I sure hope you are right, but I think you are being too tough on the rookie. He has the highest QBR in the league, 19 tds through 7 games, and a 61.5% completion percentage. I agree that once more tape comes out teams will gameplan accordingly, but I don't see any comparison to Vince right now. Again, hope your right though!
(10-29-2017, 07:44 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2017, 07:36 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]Both highly touted QBs coming out of college after winning national titles. Both mobile quarterbacks who have seriously problems with consistency and accuracy. The more tape teams get on the kid, the worse he will look. Pff still has him at the bottom of the barrel on an rankings. He makes way too many poor decisions, a lot that should have TOs. Everything comes to it's mean eventually.
I sure hope you are right, but I think you are being too tough on the rookie. He has the highest QBR in the league, 19 tds through 7 games, and a 61.5% completion percentage. I agree that once more tape comes out teams will gameplan accordingly, but I don't see any comparison to Vince right now. Again, hope your right though!
QBR is a terrible stat with no real value made up by ESPN to fabricate controversy where there is none. According to QBR Bortles' game against the Colts where we put up 51 points was one of the worst games by a QB ever.
The comparison to Vince Young doesn't work. Young threw 13 INTS against 12 TD his rookie season. Watson's nowhere near that. And Young actually improved during his time in TN. His last year there, he threw 10 TDs against 3 INTs.
Watson's had a heck of a good year, and there's a lot to like (if you're a Texans fan). I don't ever remember TN having two receivers as good Hopkins and Fuller when Young was there.
(10-29-2017, 08:17 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2017, 07:44 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]I sure hope you are right, but I think you are being too tough on the rookie. He has the highest QBR in the league, 19 tds through 7 games, and a 61.5% completion percentage. I agree that once more tape comes out teams will gameplan accordingly, but I don't see any comparison to Vince right now. Again, hope your right though!
QBR is a terrible stat with no real value made up by ESPN to fabricate controversy where there is none. According to QBR Bortles' game against the Colts where we put up 51 points was one of the worst games by a QB ever.
Fun fact: Borltes QBR from that game is 2 points lower than Roethlistberger's QBR from our game a couple weeks ago.
I remember when rg3 looked awesome as a rookie.
Yes, it's still too early to say Watson will be a great quarterback. No doubt, he has had an extremely impressive start to his career. As was already noted, the same was said about RG3, Josh Freeman and even Bortles after his 2nd season in the league. He seems like a great "kid" and I'd be pulling for him more if he didn't play in the AFC South.
Tweeted by Gil Brandt...
"Deshaun Watson has thrown 3+ TD passes in 4 consecutive games and is first rookie in NFL history to accomplish the feat."
If we had a QB playing at that level in his rookie year (or at any point in his career, for that matter), we'd be anointing him. Just accept it. He's probably going to be really good for a long time.
Watson is wise beyond his years IMHO. Really hope the kid is a star for years to come!
He seems like a great pick for the Texans...has the right mindset, is mature, and is willing to put in the effort to improve. He also appears to recognize his own limitations and is working to reduce them.
Like git'er said, if he was a Jag right now people here would be wearing his jersey everywhere except the shower. I sincerely hope he stays healthy and continues to set a good example for future QBs that get drafted. He might even be a positive influence for our next QB, who knows?
Well, that's me worried about Houston.
Who was the guy that kept posting not to draft Watson bc he was clocked throwing slower than usual???
I wanted Watson. He was easily my number 1 guy. Still glad we got LF.
The only issue, if we drafted Watson here, we'd still have no real running game so who knows?
Fournette was a needed addition here.
(10-30-2017, 02:27 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]The only issue, if we drafted Watson here, we'd still have no real running game so who knows?
Fournette was a needed addition here.
IDK... hindsight and all... but what if we had got Watson/Robinson/Hunt Rds 1-3?
Our OL has done better than expected and seemed to do OK with Yeldon and Ivory.
We might not have missed LF that much....
Then again... there really is no telling.
(10-29-2017, 07:36 PM)git\er_done Wrote: [ -> ]Houston has their QB. No matter how good our D is, we gotta find ours.
Agree. He plays well and time will tell. He has played well in 2 places that are tough for visiting teams (New England and Seattle). We have needed a QB for a long time.
This is getting old, at first it was he hasn't played against good D's, Now that he's torched a great D in one of the toughest environments, its RG3 or Vince or game tape despite the fact that Vince never compared and RG3 was only good because he could run out of the pistol. You have to put in perspective what he just did, no team had scored a TD against Seattle in the 1st quarter, he did on the first drive, no team had scored a TD against them in the 4th quarter, he put up 2. They were giving up an NFL best 14ppg, he went off for 38. Every week its another way to deny the obvious conclusion that barring injury this guy is a future perennial Pro Bowler and is already a franchise QB, and he's only a rookie, he will get better, he has the right attitude and composure that is obvious if you watch him play. All this game tape nonsense is stupid, if that was the case then you would see a lot more guys have amazing rookie years like you see with RB's you don't. QB's get better as the get experience, that is what people should be acknowledging, in 3 or 4 years he will be a monster.
RG3 was never this kind of passer he good rookie year he threw the ball less than 20 times a game, only averaged a shade over 200 yards a game and only had 20 Td's. Watson is averaging almost 270 yards a game as a starter, and in only 7 games he has 19 TD's. The comparison are stupid, he is a passer first, RG3 was a runner first who used it to set up the pass.
(10-30-2017, 02:35 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017, 02:27 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]The only issue, if we drafted Watson here, we'd still have no real running game so who knows?
Fournette was a needed addition here.
IDK... hindsight and all... but what if we had got Watson/Robinson/Hunt Rds 1-3?
Our OL has done better than expected and seemed to do OK with Yeldon and Ivory.
We might not have missed LF that much....
Then again... there really is no telling.
True. At the end of the day, we still got a stud player with our pick so can't complain. Just wish Watson went somewhere else now.