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2-0 last week (figure just easier math to count the Indy/Cincy game I got in late. Plus they were losing at the time I typed it lol)

15-9 overall
(11-02-2017, 05:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Watson out for the rest of the year changes everything in this division.

Yup.  I may go back and change my pick.
(11-02-2017, 05:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Watson out for the rest of the year changes everything in this division.

It does not change everything for the AFCS. We no longer have to worry about Houston, but Marcus Mariota is still around. and has better RBs to work with.

I will not change my Texans/Colts pick.
(11-02-2017, 05:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Watson out for the rest of the year changes everything in this division.

Yeah, that colts texans game is a real stinker now.

Watson's stock has never been higher than it was coming into this week. He might get voted to the pro bowl on the strength of October and his market size.
(11-02-2017, 05:30 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 05:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Watson out for the rest of the year changes everything in this division.

Yeah, that colts texans game is a real stinker now.

Watson's stock has never been higher than it was coming into this week. He might get voted to the pro bowl on the strength of October and his market size.

No chance of that happening. Because of his injury he will not even be on the Pro Bowl ballot.
(11-02-2017, 05:30 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 05:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Watson out for the rest of the year changes everything in this division.

Yeah, that colts texans game is a real stinker now.

How bad will they be with Savage back at QB when they play us again?
(11-02-2017, 05:41 PM)ShivanWurm Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 05:30 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, that colts texans game is a real stinker now.

How bad will they be with Savage back at QB when they play us again?

Considering they won't have as good a defense and will still have a bad o-line could be 40-0.
Is there a mercy rule on sacks? I feel Savage needs a mercy rule on sacks, man is not moble or dynamic at all.
(11-02-2017, 05:42 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 05:41 PM)ShivanWurm Wrote: [ -> ]How bad will they be with Savage back at QB when they play us again?

Considering they won't have as good a defense and will still have a bad o-line could be 40-0.

The Watson effect goes the other way around - a low-scoring game barring some defensive and special teams scores.
(11-02-2017, 05:28 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 05:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Watson out for the rest of the year changes everything in this division.

It does not change everything for the AFCS. We no longer have to worry about Houston, but Marcus Mariota is still around. and has better RBs to work with.

I will not change my Texans/Colts pick.
I’ll take the Jags RBs over the Titans any day of the week.
(11-02-2017, 06:10 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 05:42 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]Considering they won't have as good a defense and will still have a bad o-line could be 40-0.

The Watson effect goes the other way around - a low-scoring game barring some defensive and special teams scores.

We beat them 29-7 with their full strength defense and half of Watson. You really think our second meeting against a depleted defense and a stronger one on our side will be a low-scoring game?
(11-01-2017, 09:24 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]The Jaguars bye week came at a very good time, as it enabled guys like Leonard Fournette, Brandon Linder, and possibly Cam Robinson to get healthy enough to play and be effective enough to play against Cincy.  That's the routine bye week for the most part-injured players get healthier .  But the bye week ended in anything but routine fashion, as the Jaguars made a trade before the trade deadline to acquire Pro bowl DT Marcell Dareus from Buffalo for a conditional 6th round pick that could go as high as a 5th.  While Houston did not share the Jaguars' bye week, last week was quite eventful for the Texans, as several players walked out of practice after a meeting with Texans' owner Bob McNair, who apparently said something in a way that didn't sit too well with several players, including LT Duane Brown, who just ended his holdout of 8 weeks.  Most of the team knelt during the anthem as in protest of McNair, then proceeded to play, by most accounts, an instant classic of a game against Seattle.  The next day, the Texans traded Duane Brown to Seattle for 2nd and third round picks.  I think that is a case of McNair wanting to get rid of a disgruntled player, because otherwise it makes ZERO sense to declare you just found your franchise QB after going your franchise's entire existence without one, then trade away the stud LT whose job it is to protect him.  I think at least in the short term, the Jaguars got better and the Texans got worse.  The bye week/trade deadline time frame was uneventful for the tacks, and while there was a lot of speculation that the Colts were willing to deal WR T.Y. Hilton or CB Vontae Davis, nothing materialized on either of those areas, leaving the Colts unchanged and in last place.  On a board/personal note, I was finally able to get my record above .500 for the first time.   Let's hope I can stay there after this week.

Bengals (3-4) at Jaguars (4-3)-At face value, the Jaguars seem to match up very well against the Bengals.  The Bengals seemingly have struggled with their offensive line after foolishly letting Whitworth leave.  Meanwhile the Jaguars have an excellent pass rushing line, and seemingly have bolstered the run defense with the addition of Dareus.  The Bengals have stud WR A.J. Green at WR and seemingly little else, as speedy first round pick Ross has yet to make an impact with them.  Opposing them is a Jaguars secondary which could easily be considered among the top three secondaries in the game this year along with Denver and Seattle.  Offensively, the Jaguars run the ball very well, while the Bengals are middle of the road stopping the run.  I think this Jaguars team is very confident going into this game, and I think the Jaguars win a close game 21-13.

Colts (2-6) at Texans (3-4)-I indicated above the Texans did not improve themselves by trading away their stud LT.  It's not going to matter against the Colts, who are completely incapable of stopping the red hot DeShaun Watson.  The return of WR Will Fuller has added a whole new dimension to that Texans passing game.  Texans win 27-13.  Edit:  With the news that the Texans have lost DeShaun Watson for the year with a torn ACL, that changes things for them.  I'm not sure how much this team can take this year.  The hurricane, the suspension of Cushing, the season ending injuries to Watt and Mercilus, the meeting with McNair and the trade of Duane Brown...now this.  I think despite all of that, they are still better than the Colts, but they will be devastated by this. What saves them this week is they are home.  Texans win 17-14.

Ravens (4-4) at tacks (4-3)-The Ravens go into this game with Flacco suffering from a concussion after a vicious hit from Kiko Alonso.  If he doesn't play, that will leave Ryan Mallet to play in his place.  I don't think the Ravens have enough on either side of the ball to win this game.  Tennessee wins 23-16.

Last week:  2-0
Overall: 12-11
Well I am picking: Jags, Colts, and Ravens (this is the most difficult one, but that Ravens D is good, Flacco is back).
6-0 overall
(11-02-2017, 06:15 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 05:28 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]It does not change everything for the AFCS. We no longer have to worry about Houston, but Marcus Mariota is still around. and has better RBs to work with.

I will not change my Texans/Colts pick.

I’ll take the Jags RBs over the Titans any day of the week.

I was comparing DeMarco Murray and Derrick Henry to Houston's RB room, not ours.

(11-02-2017, 06:53 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 06:10 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]The Watson effect goes the other way around - a low-scoring game barring some defensive and special teams scores.

We beat them 29-7 with their full strength defense and half of Watson. You really think our second meeting against a depleted defense and a stronger one on our side will be a low-scoring game?

One TD was on defense and a couple others were FGs. How many of those points were by scored by the offense?
(11-02-2017, 05:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Watson out for the rest of the year changes everything in this division.

Absolutely.

(11-02-2017, 05:25 PM)unf_nashvillian Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 05:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Watson out for the rest of the year changes everything in this division.

Yup.  I may go back and change my pick.

I'm thinking of changing a couple of my picks.

Can the Colts pull off the upset against the Texans without Watson, especially considering that Tom Savage only has a couple of days to prepare to start?

Can the Ravens with Joe Flacco pull off the win against the Titans?
(11-02-2017, 08:33 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I'm thinking of changing a couple of my picks.

Can the Colts pull off the upset against the Texans without Watson, especially considering that Tom Savage only has a couple of days to prepare to start?

Can the Ravens with Joe Flacco pull off the win against the Titans?

Dude, Tom Savage has been practicing all year and worked only with the starters before Week 1. It is not like he needs to get ready on short notice.

Joe Flacco is coming off a concussion. I would not expect him to play better Sunday than he did before the Dolphins game.
(11-02-2017, 08:41 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2017, 08:33 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I'm thinking of changing a couple of my picks.

Can the Colts pull off the upset against the Texans without Watson, especially considering that Tom Savage only has a couple of days to prepare to start?

Can the Ravens with Joe Flacco pull off the win against the Titans?

Dude, Tom Savage has been practicing all year and worked only with the starters before Week 1. It is not like he needs to get ready on short notice.

Joe Flacco is coming off a concussion. I would not expect him to play better Sunday than he did before the Dolphins game.

There is a lot more to it than that.  Tom Savage != Deshaun Watson.  Tom Savage may have taken a few reps with the starters, but I'll bet their game plan has to be adjusted.  Consider this.  If the Jaguars' game plan was designed with a few QB runs for Blake Bortles and the same thing happened, would Chad Henne be able to execute those plays the same?  With virtually no practice time?  IIRC Friday is usually a limited practice to "fine tune" the game plan for most teams and Saturday is a "walk through".  This puts the game squarely on the back of the Texans' defense since Tom Savage has not "rehearsed" the play selection that goes with the game plan.
(11-02-2017, 09:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]There is a lot more to it than that.  Tom Savage != Deshaun Watson. Tom Savage may have taken a few reps with the starters, but I'll bet their game plan has to be adjusted.  Consider this.  If the Jaguars' game plan was designed with a few QB runs for Blake Bortles and the same thing happened, would Chad Henne be able to execute those plays the same?  With virtually no practice time? IIRC Friday is usually a limited practice to "fine tune" the game plan for most teams and Saturday is a "walk through". This puts the game squarely on the back of the Texans' defense since Tom Savage has not "rehearsed" the play selection that goes with the game plan.

I don't know what the symbols are for, but we all know Deshaun Watson is much better than Tom Savage.

Bill O'Brien will scale back the playbook. If Savage can't run a play, he won't call it.
Am I the only one that noticed it took jdub five posts out of eighteen to finally get on topic .... and 12 on a 38 post subject. My God woman....put a sock in it.
(11-02-2017, 11:57 PM)Mowerguy Wrote: [ -> ]Am I the only one that noticed it took J-dub five posts out of eighteen to finally get on topic .... and 12 on a 38 post subject. My God woman....put a sock in it.

Put a sock in what?
Last week: 2-0

Overall: 17-7


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