Quote:They were one dimensional last year. The running game was also crap in 2015.
27th in ypg
Everyone knows the coaching sucks on both sides of the ball.
Everyone knows a better run game would make Blake's job easier.
Everyone knows the defense has only been decent in a couple of games this year and has under-achieved the rest of the time.
In fact it would appear that the vast majority here have a much clearer picture of all of this than you do because they aren't blinded by some asinine agenda of propping up a severely struggling quarterback.
The vast majority here doesn't have a clue. They think drafting a new QB will fix the Jags losing ways.
Quote:The vast majority here doesn't have a clue. They think drafting a new QB will fix the Jags losing ways.
I think the vast majority here have been calling for the whole coaching staff to be fired for weeks now. Of
that vast majority it would seem well more than half of them still think Bortles has a chance and that coaching is a contributing reason for his current downturn.
You need to ease up on these blanket statements. You are either really bad at gauging the opinions of the regular posters on this forum, or you are displaying a willful ignorance of their desires for this football team and it's current quarterback.
Quote:The vast majority here doesn't have a clue. They think drafting a new QB will fix the Jags losing ways.
I'm behind Bortles and I'm not sure he is completely broken. I have patience.... heck you have to with the way things have gone the past decade. Look we went through the Leftwich and Garrad years we know the deal. The way things are going we could have a similar thing happen where Bortles loses his job to average competition. He has to work harder. I don't know what is going to happen ultimately so I'll keep watching.
Quote:The vast majority here doesn't have a clue. They think drafting a new QB will fix the Jags losing ways.
At least the vast majority knows you're full of crap.
Quote:Hold up though...
Is it valid to lay our crappy ToP solely at the feet of the QB? It stands to reason that if we could actually run the ball respectably, we'd inherently have a higher ToP instead of having practically every 3rd down we undertake be a 3rd and 7+. I dunno though...
It seems to me that you guys are too firmly entrenched in completely different galaxies in terms of how you think. Space blames the defense and lack of run game for everything...to a fault. Those who argue with him pretty much dump everything at the feet of Bortles, which only further spurs on his zealous devotion. The truth is BOTH aspects of our offense are jacked up and BOTH in totality are the main reason we suck currently.
Nah I've said it's multiple problems, not just Blake. He would get the lion's share for me though. 50% Blake, 40% coaching/playcalling/etc, 10% run blocking/RB.
If Blake was playing like a franchise QB I think the running game would be fine. We would also have a winning record and the division lead.
Quote:A-Rob did not have problems with drops his rookie year. That was Hurns.
Arob had a bad problem of drops his rookie year. So did Hurns.
Quote:Nah I've said it's multiple problems, not just Blake. He would get the lion's share for me though. 50% Blake, 40% coaching/playcalling/etc, 10% run blocking/RB.
If Blake was playing like a franchise QB I think the running game would be fine. We would also have a winning record and the division lead.
Blake has nothing to do with the run game. Have you watched the games? There are NO lanes anywhere. There haven't been lanes for FOUR years
Quote:Arob had a bad problem of drops his rookie year. So did Hurns.
Arob was 199th in the NFL with a 1.2% drop rate his rookie year...1 drop on 99 targets.
Hurns had the 28th highest at 6.2%...6 drops on 97 targets.
Quote:Blake has nothing to do with the run game. Have you watched the games? There are NO lanes anywhere. There haven't been lanes for FOUR years
QB play has nothing to do with the run game. Out of all of the absurd things you've said, this might be the worst of all of them.
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Lol, its never us.
Quote:Blake has nothing to do with the run game. Have you watched the games? There are NO lanes anywhere. There haven't been lanes for FOUR years
You also must not have looked up our rush yards per attempt average. We were 15th last year and 7th in 1014. Heck we are still only 26th this year. Not nearly WORST in the NFL like you try to parrot.
Just another example of you saying a big lie enough times and it becomes your truth. Unfortunately this time I actually started to believe you until I looked it up. Not even close to the WORST in the NFL during the Gus/Blake era.
Quote:Nah I've said it's multiple problems, not just Blake. He would get the lion's share for me though. 50% Blake, 40% coaching/playcalling/etc, 10% run blocking/RB.
If Blake was playing like a franchise QB I think the running game would be fine. We would also have a winning record and the division lead.
Ok, my bad then. I am not trying to come for anyone for having an opinion or anything. This board is practically full of OMGBBINTSUX posts when, as you illustrated, there's much more to it than that.
I'm not entirely convinced Blake is that much at fault. I've said before I don't like him having to take 40ish pass attempts per game and a respectable running game would directly affect that.
Your overlying point still stands though and I apologize for any misinterpretation.
Quote:QB play has nothing to do with the run game. Out of all of the absurd things you've said, this might be the worst of all of them.
If a QB throws for 35 TDs and 4400 yards and your run game is the WORST in the league, NO the QB has nothing to do with the inept run game.
Quote:You also must not have looked up our rush yards per attempt average. We were 15th last year and 7th in 1014. Heck we are still only 26th this year. Not nearly WORST in the NFL like you try to parrot.
Just another example of you saying a big lie enough times and it becomes your truth. Unfortunately this time I actually started to believe you until I looked it up. Not even close to the WORST in the NFL during the Gus/Blake era.
Yards per game. 2nd worst in NFL. That's what people look at. How many rushing TDs last year? It's embarrassingly bad.
Quote:QB play has nothing to do with the run game. Out of all of the absurd things you've said, this might be the worst of all of them.
Yeah...not really one of his better comments for sure...
Even I know the two facets directly affect each other. A quality QB forces teams to chouse whether or not to stack the box and blitz. If the passing game is no threat, you're going to face regular 8-9 man fronts.
Conversely, if you can't run for crap (like us right now), you're going to see what we see now until the QB can make them pay for crowding the LoS.
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.
Quote:Yards per game. 2nd worst in NFL. That's what people look at. How many rushing TDs last year? It's embarrassingly bad.
So we were good in yards per carry, but we couldn't sustain drives long enough to turn a good per carry average into a good per game average. Gotcha.
What could possibly be the reason that we were unable to sustain drives despite a perfectly workable yards per carry average? Even for you this would appear to be an easy answer.
Quote:Arob was 199th in the NFL with a 1.2% drop rate his rookie year...1 drop on 99 targets.
Hurns had the 28th highest at 6.2%...6 drops on 97 targets.
Thx,, I thought it was AROB. My bad.
Quote:So we were good in yards per carry, but we couldn't sustain drives long enough to turn a good per carry average into a good per game average. Gotcha.
What could possibly be the reason that we were unable to sustain drives despite a perfectly workable yards per carry average? Even for you this would appear to be an easy answer.
ESPN just flashed a stat about Cutler and his defenses.
When Cutler's defense gives up 0-20 points, he's (46-8)
When Cutler's defense gives up 21+points, he's (22-62)
Defense matters more than anything.
Quote:ESPN just flashed a stat about Cutler and his defenses.
When Cutler's defense gives up 0-20 points, he's (46-8)
When Cutler's defense gives up 21+points, he's (22-62)
Defense matters more than anything.
This has absolutely zero to do with me wondering why the Jags were incapable of sustaining drives last year despite being good in yards per carry. I really thought you might have a good answer for it, seeing that it is painfully obvious, but I guess not.