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I've love to see our 2 OT positions solidified for the next 10 years.
Cam had a strong start but he did struggle down the road.
Pretty dumb.
It's going to be weird having to stay up late to see the Jags pick!
(01-11-2018, 04:45 PM)Jags32250 Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty dumb.
It's going to be weird having to stay up late to see the Jags pick!
This...I was used to be doing done on draft night by 930.
(01-11-2018, 04:44 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I've love to see our 2 OT positions solidified for the next 10 years.
Cam had a strong start but he did struggle down the road.
You could probably chalk that up to hitting the rookie wall. Guy had gone full tilt for almost a year between bowl games, combine, pro days, draft, walkthroughs, mini camp, preseason, and regular season.
I love Connor Williams and have him as a top 3 overall player in this draft, but with our huge need at QB as well as Cam Robinson being a rookie, I just don't see OT as being a priority. That would be more of a luxury. Hopefully, in a year or two, we can start making luxury picks, but right now, that just isn't feasible. If we don't get one of the top QB's in this draft, I see us in the same exact position next season and our opportunity window is only gonna be open for a short period of time.
If the first round plays out this way, the Jags would have some nice options with their first round pick. In no particular order, they would be:
1. Stay put and take the top rated tight end on their board. This would be the 1st tight end taken in the draft. Andrews would be the favorite as of now.
2. Take the top rated offensive lineman. If they love Brown, he could be the pick. I disagree about moving Robinson and will defer to Boselli who says Robinson can eventually be a pro-bowl left tackle.Still wouldn't hurt to have
better depth at tackle. Another option would be Hernandez, who'd immediately start at guard and upgrade the run-blocking significantly. Might be a little early for him, however.
3. Mason Rudolph or trade up a few spots and take Mayfield. Depends on how Blake plays Sunday. If he implodes, this is a good possibility unless they trade for Alex Smith. It's not totally crazy to believe he will play very well against
the Steelers and the Jaguars allow him to play out his option year before making a long-term commitment or cutting him.
Regardless of which direction they go, they should be able to upgrade a roster which won 10 regular season games and at least 1 playoff game.
I'm all for trading up and taking Mayfield or staying put and taking Rudolph. Either is a great scenario, but passing on both in the draft, would be totally unacceptable.
I know we are pretty deep at defensive line but I'd have a hard time passing Daron Payne. That dude was a complete beast during the playoffs.
(01-11-2018, 11:41 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]I know we are pretty deep at defensive line but I'd have a hard time passing Daron Payne. That dude was a complete beast during the playoffs.
He'd never see the field behind our D-Line.
Parnell just had a career year and Cam looked good.
Dumb pick. Get tackle depth later , not a priority. Guards please.
It would take Williams reinjuring his knee during predraft training, or worse, to have him slip to our pick.
(01-12-2018, 03:33 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Parnell just had a career year and Cam looked good.
Dumb pick. Get tackle depth later , not a priority. Guards please.
While I agree with the first sentence, I think if there's a future RT to be had (Parnell's no spring chicken) and that future RT could slide in and upgrade Cann in the meantime... maybe it makes sense.
It just makes more sense to do it in a subsequent round.
(01-12-2018, 12:53 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2018, 11:41 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]I know we are pretty deep at defensive line but I'd have a hard time passing Daron Payne. That dude was a complete beast during the playoffs.
He'd never see the field behind our D-Line.
After next season, there's a real possibility that two of the following three are not on the team: Jackson, Campbell, and Dareus.
(01-11-2018, 04:44 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I've love to see our 2 OT positions solidified for the next 10 years.
Cam had a strong start but he did struggle down the road.
Yeah but dudes a rookie and he really only struggled against some of the best. Like Chandler Jones, Bosa/Ingram, he didn't play in the 2nd tack game...
I wouldn't be completely opposed to drafting an OL guy in round 1. But at the bottom of round 1 I bet we could get a mean OG.
Although, not sure round 1 won't be a QB.
(01-12-2018, 12:22 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2018, 12:53 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]He'd never see the field behind our D-Line.
After next season, there's a real possibility that two of the following three are not on the team: Jackson, Campbell, and Dareus.
If that happens, the window of opportunity for this team would already start to shut. We need to keep these key players together for at least
3 more years. I'm looking for an adjustment period for a rookie QB in 2018, a strong improvement by that rookie QB in 2019 and a Superbowl in 2020. We need to keep our core players on defense during this period.
(01-12-2018, 12:56 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2018, 04:44 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I've love to see our 2 OT positions solidified for the next 10 years.
Cam had a strong start but he did struggle down the road.
Yeah but dudes a rookie and he really only struggled against some of the best. Like Chandler Jones, Bosa/Ingram, he didn't play in the 2nd tack game...
I wouldn't be completely opposed to drafting an OL guy in round 1. But at the bottom of round 1 I bet we could get a mean OG.
Although, not sure round 1 won't be a QB.
If Rosen, Mayfield and Rudolph are gone by our pick (God forbid), I'd try to trade down a few spots, add a pick in 2019 and use our first selection to take the best available OG. I'd rather take one of the QB's I mentioned in round 1 though and take the best available OG in round 2 (depending on who's left on the board) and the best available TE in round 3, (depending on who's left on the board.)
I hope they trade down actually. Pick-up a few extra picks for the 2nd and 3rd days and maybe bank another pick or two for 2019. I still think it's too early right now. We are potentially looking at some losses in the receiving game and also the secondary. If we let Robinson and Lee walk and/or cut Hurns they have a lot of spots to refill.
And if Colvin tests the market we would need to address that 3rd CB spot. It's an underrated position in today's pass happy era of football. Colvin would be a CB1 or CB2 on most teams around the NFL. You also have Paul Poszlusny not getting any younger so linebacker depth becomes a concern.
For me. In the area we'll be picking. These would be the players I would like to see on the board in no particular order:
Offense:
Baker Mayfield - QB - Oklahoma
Hayden Hurst - TE - South Carolina
Christian Kirk - WR - Texas A&M
Quenton Nelson - OG - Notre Dame
Dallas Goedert - TE - South Dakota State
Defense:
Roquon Smith - OLB - Georgia
Mike Hughes - CB - Central Florida
Austin Bryant - DE - Clemson
Da'Ron Payne - DT - Alabama
Christian Wilkins - DT - Clemson
(01-12-2018, 12:22 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2018, 12:53 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]He'd never see the field behind our D-Line.
After next season, there's a real possibility that two of the following three are not on the team: Ivory, Colvin, and Lewis.
FIFY
(01-12-2018, 05:55 PM)You Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I hope they trade down actually. Pick-up a few extra picks for the 2nd and 3rd days and maybe bank another pick or two for 2019. I still think it's too early right now. We are potentially looking at some losses in the receiving game and also the secondary. If we let Robinson and Lee walk and/or cut Hurns they have a lot of spots to refill.
And if Colvin tests the market we would need to address that 3rd CB spot. It's an underrated position in today's pass happy era of football. Colvin would be a CB1 or CB2 on most teams around the NFL. You also have Paul Poszlusny not getting any younger so linebacker depth becomes a concern.
For me. In the area we'll be picking. These would be the players I would like to see on the board in no particular order:
Offense:
Baker Mayfield - QB - Oklahoma
Hayden Hurst - TE - South Carolina
Christian Kirk - WR - Texas A&M
Quenton Nelson - OG - Notre Dame
Dallas Goedert - TE - South Dakota State
Defense:
Roquon Smith - OLB - Georgia
Mike Hughes - CB - Central Florida
Austin Bryant - DE - Clemson
Da'Ron Payne - DT - Alabama
Christian Wilkins - DT - Clemson
The Jags should do back flips if Nelson is there. He may be the best guard prospect to come out in the past 20 years.
(01-12-2018, 08:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (01-12-2018, 05:55 PM)You Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I hope they trade down actually. Pick-up a few extra picks for the 2nd and 3rd days and maybe bank another pick or two for 2019. I still think it's too early right now. We are potentially looking at some losses in the receiving game and also the secondary. If we let Robinson and Lee walk and/or cut Hurns they have a lot of spots to refill.
And if Colvin tests the market we would need to address that 3rd CB spot. It's an underrated position in today's pass happy era of football. Colvin would be a CB1 or CB2 on most teams around the NFL. You also have Paul Poszlusny not getting any younger so linebacker depth becomes a concern.
For me. In the area we'll be picking. These would be the players I would like to see on the board in no particular order:
Offense:
Baker Mayfield - QB - Oklahoma
Hayden Hurst - TE - South Carolina
Christian Kirk - WR - Texas A&M
Quenton Nelson - OG - Notre Dame
Dallas Goedert - TE - South Dakota State
Defense:
Roquon Smith - OLB - Georgia
Mike Hughes - CB - Central Florida
Austin Bryant - DE - Clemson
Da'Ron Payne - DT - Alabama
Christian Wilkins - DT - Clemson
The Jags should do back flips if Nelson is there. He may be the best guard prospect to come out in the past 20 years.
Can you imagine Roquan on this defense though...