(03-27-2018, 12:59 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Really good interview with QB Kyle Lauletta.
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/03/2...nfl-draft/
While his arm isn't the strongest, everything else he has in his disposal leads me to believe he has what it takes to be a starting NFL QB..
From the article:
Quote: In my first year starting, we ran the ball effectively, and we were under center a lot. We had a strong running game, and we were in a lot of big personnels; two tight ends, two running backs. That year, we went play-action and threw the ball deep over the top. I definitely feel comfortable with that.
Sounds like what we are trying to do here....
Lauletta's arm (or lack thereof) will make it difficult for him to even become a backup in the NFL.
I can't recall a QB prospect's arm that was so suspect in scouting reports. Certainly not one that ever made it in the NFL, even as a backup.
Let's not go overboard here. He has more than enough velocity to be a pretty competent backup.
It does probably limit him to a low end starter at best though.
(03-27-2018, 01:38 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Lauletta's arm (or lack thereof) will make it difficult for him to even become a backup in the NFL.
I can't recall a QB prospect's arm that was so suspect in scouting reports. Certainly not one that ever made it in the NFL, even as a backup.
Case Keenum quickly comes to mind.
I can now see where your Allen bashing is rooted. It's to prop your own guy.
That's not overboard regarding his arm strength. He's a projected 5th rounder.
From nfl.com scouting:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/k...id=2559882
WEAKNESSES Arm strength is a
substantial concern. Uses
excessive trajectory to get additional distance on deep throws. Pop fly throws
allow safeties time to park under the long ball and make plays.
Can't make all the NFL throws. Ball doesn't come off hand with much velocity. Will ignore safety movement and throw into double teams at times. Perception of pressure can affect him. Will drop eyes and start looking for an exit strategy. Feet start dancing nervously when his internal clock goes off. May not have the mobility to be effective scrambler on next level.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 5
BOTTOM LINE Lauletta has decent accuracy and mechanics to work with, but his lack of NFL arm strength will limit the number of teams who are willing to consider him.
Lauletta's interceptions come due to arm issues rather than decision-making and that may not be correctable in the pros due to the increase in play speed that he will see in NFL secondaries.
The last line is about as bad as it gets.
That's bordering on being undraftable.
(03-27-2018, 01:21 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2018, 01:20 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]Tom Brady 2.0
Richmond castoff
castoff label TBD after his rookie contract.
(03-27-2018, 02:10 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]I can now see where your Allen bashing is rooted. It's to prop your own guy.
That's not overboard regarding his arm strength. He's a projected 5th rounder.
From nfl.com scouting: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/k...id=2559882
WEAKNESSES Arm strength is a substantial concern. Uses excessive trajectory to get additional distance on deep throws. Pop fly throws allow safeties time to park under the long ball and make plays. Can't make all the NFL throws. Ball doesn't come off hand with much velocity. Will ignore safety movement and throw into double teams at times. Perception of pressure can affect him. Will drop eyes and start looking for an exit strategy. Feet start dancing nervously when his internal clock goes off. May not have the mobility to be effective scrambler on next level.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 5
BOTTOM LINE Lauletta has decent accuracy and mechanics to work with, but his lack of NFL arm strength will limit the number of teams who are willing to consider him. Lauletta's interceptions come due to arm issues rather than decision-making and that may not be correctable in the pros due to the increase in play speed that he will see in NFL secondaries.
The last line is about as bad as it gets.
That's bordering on being undraftable.
Josh Allen truthers sure love bringing him up. Odd take to have about a guy not in my top 5.
Oh yes I've read the reports too. I just don't agree that he will struggle to make it as a backup due to his arm.
(03-27-2018, 02:04 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2018, 01:38 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Lauletta's arm (or lack thereof) will make it difficult for him to even become a backup in the NFL.
I can't recall a QB prospect's arm that was so suspect in scouting reports. Certainly not one that ever made it in the NFL, even as a backup.
Case Keenum quickly comes to mind.
Keenum was criticized for his overall size. The biggest question was how he could function in a pocket being only 6'1" - how would his game translate? Will he function in the pocket? Could he see downfield effectively? Would you need to roll him out? His arm was certainly not criticized as highly as Lauletta's is being. Out of ten, his arm strength concern would have been around 6 or 7. Lauletta would be a 9.
(03-27-2018, 02:21 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2018, 02:10 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]I can now see where your Allen bashing is rooted. It's to prop your own guy.
That's not overboard regarding his arm strength. He's a projected 5th rounder.
From nfl.com scouting: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/k...id=2559882
WEAKNESSES Arm strength is a substantial concern. Uses excessive trajectory to get additional distance on deep throws. Pop fly throws allow safeties time to park under the long ball and make plays. Can't make all the NFL throws. Ball doesn't come off hand with much velocity. Will ignore safety movement and throw into double teams at times. Perception of pressure can affect him. Will drop eyes and start looking for an exit strategy. Feet start dancing nervously when his internal clock goes off. May not have the mobility to be effective scrambler on next level.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 5
BOTTOM LINE Lauletta has decent accuracy and mechanics to work with, but his lack of NFL arm strength will limit the number of teams who are willing to consider him. Lauletta's interceptions come due to arm issues rather than decision-making and that may not be correctable in the pros due to the increase in play speed that he will see in NFL secondaries.
The last line is about as bad as it gets.
That's bordering on being undraftable.
Josh Allen truthers sure love bringing him up. Odd take to have about a guy not in my top 5.
Oh yes I've read the reports too. I just don't agree that he will struggle to make it as a backup due to his arm.
Care to add substance or just sniping? Again?
It's as if you've pared out 90% of the truth to focus on only the 10% that suits your ill formed opinion.
Looks like I hit the nail on the head re: Allen.
Lauletta had kind words about him at the Senior Bowl is a very bad hill to die on for a guy. Lest we forget Matt Jones and other one hit Senior Bowl wonders.
(03-27-2018, 02:31 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2018, 02:21 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Josh Allen truthers sure love bringing him up. Odd take to have about a guy not in my top 5.
Oh yes I've read the reports too. I just don't agree that he will struggle to make it as a backup due to his arm.
Care to add substance or just sniping? Again?
It's as if you've pared out 90% of the truth to focus on only the 10% that suits your ill formed opinion.
Looks like I hit the nail on the head re: Allen.
Lauletta had kind words about him at the Senior Bowl is a very bad hill to die on for a guy. Lest we forget Matt Jones and other one hit Senior Bowl wonders.
Unfortunately Pirkster we have different versions of "the truth". My opinions aren't based on your version of it and vice versa.
Not sure what you mean about Allen in this context either. What does he have to do with Lauletta other than being QBs in the same class?
And Lauletta was a pretty interesting QB before the Senior Bowl ever happened. He was discussed a good amount prior.
(03-27-2018, 02:04 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2018, 01:38 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Lauletta's arm (or lack thereof) will make it difficult for him to even become a backup in the NFL.
I can't recall a QB prospect's arm that was so suspect in scouting reports. Certainly not one that ever made it in the NFL, even as a backup.
Case Keenum quickly comes to mind.
I was thinking Chad Pennington.
I think Keenum had an averagely strong arm coming out. Kind of Andy Dalton like.
Lauletta is weaker than both.
(03-27-2018, 02:10 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]I can now see where your Allen bashing is rooted. It's to prop your own guy.
That's not overboard regarding his arm strength. He's a projected 5th rounder.
From nfl.com scouting: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/k...id=2559882
WEAKNESSES Arm strength is a substantial concern. Uses excessive trajectory to get additional distance on deep throws. Pop fly throws allow safeties time to park under the long ball and make plays. Can't make all the NFL throws. Ball doesn't come off hand with much velocity. Will ignore safety movement and throw into double teams at times. Perception of pressure can affect him. Will drop eyes and start looking for an exit strategy. Feet start dancing nervously when his internal clock goes off. May not have the mobility to be effective scrambler on next level.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 5
BOTTOM LINE Lauletta has decent accuracy and mechanics to work with, but his lack of NFL arm strength will limit the number of teams who are willing to consider him. Lauletta's interceptions come due to arm issues rather than decision-making and that may not be correctable in the pros due to the increase in play speed that he will see in NFL secondaries.
The last line is about as bad as it gets.
That's bordering on being undraftable.
I'd take a shot maybe 5th round or later but he just doesn't have an NFL arm. The only way he has a long career in the NFL is as a backup without getting his weak arm exposed.
Yeah I see a long tenured backup here. I like him better than Nate Peterman, my god how did he ever get hype last year, but I don't think we have a long term starter on our hands either.
(03-27-2018, 06:21 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I see a long tenured backup here. I like him better than Nate Peterman, my god how did he ever get hype last year, but I don't think we have a long term starter on our hands either.
"Most pro ready QB in the draft" "Pro style" "Very intelligent QB"
*Runs shovels passes, jet sweeps, screens and RPOs all game*
(03-27-2018, 06:35 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2018, 06:21 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I see a long tenured backup here. I like him better than Nate Peterman, my god how did he ever get hype last year, but I don't think we have a long term starter on our hands either.
"Most pro ready QB in the draft" "Pro style" "Very intelligent QB"
*Runs shovels passes, jet sweeps, screens and RPOs all game*
If that sentiment is consensus, I'm sure you could find several sources to back this up.
This is the first I've heard of this. If that's true, and he's still projected as at best a 5th rounder, then that speaks even more to his shortcomings.