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I hope they bring in an undrafted kid too.

(04-30-2018, 11:14 AM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Is it safe to stop whining about drafting Cooke?

Or does it still feel too good to quit?

We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 11:14 AM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Is it safe to stop whining about drafting Cooke?

Or does it still feel too good to quit?

We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

You thought all the other punters that got drafted were going to though?

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 11:14 AM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Is it safe to stop whining about drafting Cooke?

Or does it still feel too good to quit?

We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

There was a run on punters. 
They were targeting this particular guy.
According to their board he was the next one to go. 
So they took him with the 247th pick.  Nine picks before the draft ended. 
Why is this a problem exactly?  I just don't see anything wrong with that.

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

You thought all the other punters that got drafted were going to though?

Dickson was a no-brainer. Scott was a probability in the later rounds. Townsend was the only one that surprised me, but he was taken by the Raiders, who just cut their punter, so they were desperate. No other teams needed a Punter at that point.

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(04-30-2018, 03:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

There was a run on punters. 
They were targeting this particular guy.
According to their board he was the next one to go. 
So they took him with the 247th pick.  Nine picks before the draft ended. 
Why is this a problem exactly?  I just don't see anything wrong with that.

I would have rather taken a flyer on a TE or another O-Lineman or a CB.

(04-30-2018, 03:54 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]You thought all the other punters that got drafted were going to though?

Dickson was a no-brainer. Scott was a probability in the later rounds. Townsend was the only one that surprised me, but he was taken by the Raiders, who just cut their punter, so they were desperate. No other teams needed a Punter at that point.

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(04-30-2018, 03:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]There was a run on punters. 
They were targeting this particular guy.
According to their board he was the next one to go. 
So they took him with the 247th pick.  Nine picks before the draft ended. 
Why is this a problem exactly?  I just don't see anything wrong with that.

I would have rather taken a flyer on a TE or another O-Lineman or a CB.

Which studs got taken in between our pick and the end of the draft? I'll make sure I keep an eye on em

(04-30-2018, 04:08 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 03:54 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Dickson was a no-brainer. Scott was a probability in the later rounds. Townsend was the only one that surprised me, but he was taken by the Raiders, who just cut their punter, so they were desperate. No other teams needed a Punter at that point.

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I would have rather taken a flyer on a TE or another O-Lineman or a CB.

Which studs got taken in between our pick and the end of the draft? I'll make sure I keep an eye on em

It's not the guys who were drafted after him, it's the UDFA players that we missed out on that we could've had if we drafted them in his place. Guys I liked were:

Cam Serigne TE New Orleans
Deon Yelder TE New Orleans
Matt Gono OG Atlanta
Ike Boettger OG/OT Buffalo
Mike McCray LB Miami
Nick DeLuca LB Tennessee
Holton Hill CB Minnesota

(04-30-2018, 04:23 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 04:08 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]Which studs got taken in between our pick and the end of the draft? I'll make sure I keep an eye on em

It's not the guys who were drafted after him, it's the UDFA players that we missed out on that we could've had if we drafted them in his place. Guys I liked were:

Cam Serigne TE New Orleans
Deon Yelder TE New Orleans
Matt Gono OG Atlanta
Ike Boettger OG/OT Buffalo
Mike McCray LB Miami
Nick DeLuca LB Tennessee
Holton Hill CB Minnesota

None of those guys would make the roster, but the guy we used the pick on is going to be part of our final 53 and saved us 2mil

(04-30-2018, 04:23 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 04:08 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]Which studs got taken in between our pick and the end of the draft? I'll make sure I keep an eye on em

It's not the guys who were drafted after him, it's the UDFA players that we missed out on that we could've had if we drafted them in his place. Guys I liked were:

Cam Serigne TE New Orleans
Deon Yelder TE New Orleans
Matt Gono OG Atlanta
Ike Boettger OG/OT Buffalo
Mike McCray LB Miami
Nick DeLuca LB Tennessee
Holton Hill CB Minnesota

They got exclusive rights to Cooke by drafting him. It takes two to tango in free agency.

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 11:14 AM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Is it safe to stop whining about drafting Cooke?

Or does it still feel too good to quit?

We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

By drafting him, you don't lose him to another team in UDFA. 

That beats wasting a seventh round pick on someone who won't make the team, in addition to losing out on the punter we preferred to boot.

(04-30-2018, 11:11 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]Just announced on 1010.

So there's that.

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https://twitter.com/mike_e_kaye/status/9...83776?s=19

Duh

(04-30-2018, 05:01 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

By drafting him, you don't lose him to another team in UDFA. 

That beats wasting a seventh round pick on someone who won't make the team, in addition to losing out on the punter we preferred to boot.

Yeah who says Cooke would have signed with us? 

Nothing this front office does is good enough for olinematters, it seems.

(04-30-2018, 03:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

There was a run on punters. 
They were targeting this particular guy.
According to their board he was the next one to go. 
So they took him with the 247th pick.  Nine picks before the draft ended. 
Why is this a problem exactly?  I just don't see anything wrong with that.

Me either. Maybe they think he should have been drafted in the 3rd round?

Oh man there goes the playoffs and all our hopes.

(04-30-2018, 04:49 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 04:23 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]It's not the guys who were drafted after him, it's the UDFA players that we missed out on that we could've had if we drafted them in his place. Guys I liked were:

Cam Serigne TE New Orleans
Deon Yelder TE New Orleans
Matt Gono OG Atlanta
Ike Boettger OG/OT Buffalo
Mike McCray LB Miami
Nick DeLuca LB Tennessee
Holton Hill CB Minnesota

None of those guys would make the roster, but the guy we used the pick on is going to be part of our final 53 and saved us 2mil

How do you know? For that matter, how do you know the Punter we drafted, is any better than the one we had? You don't. None of us do. Not even the coaches. The kid has yet to kick in a single NFL game.

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 11:14 AM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Is it safe to stop whining about drafting Cooke?

Or does it still feel too good to quit?

We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

It's not just about if he would have been drafted. There's also the competition from other teams to worry about after the draft. Case in point, the Jaguars tried to sign K Eddy Pineiro after the draft, but he ended up going to the Raiders. 

(04-30-2018, 05:01 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

By drafting him, you don't lose him to another team in UDFA. 

That beats wasting a seventh round pick on someone who won't make the team, in addition to losing out on the punter we preferred to boot.

If you read between the lines, Cooke wasn't the team's first choice. Maybe not their second or third choice either, and when you consider what it says about Nortman that a late seventh-round punter who might have been the team's fourth choice is still good enough to get him cut immediately post draft...

(04-30-2018, 06:25 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 05:01 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]By drafting him, you don't lose him to another team in UDFA. 

That beats wasting a seventh round pick on someone who won't make the team, in addition to losing out on the punter we preferred to boot.

If you read between the lines, Cooke wasn't the team's first choice. Maybe not their second or third choice either, and when you consider what it says about Nortman that a late seventh-round punter who might have been the team's fourth choice is still good enough to get him cut immediately post draft...

So that tells me we were going to get a punter one way or another. I still believe we could have found a punter better than Nortman after the draft.

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(04-30-2018, 06:20 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-30-2018, 03:34 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]We still could have signed him after the draft. He wasn't gonna get drafted.

It's not just about if he would have been drafted. There's also the competition from other teams to worry about after the draft. Case in point, the Jaguars tried to sign K Eddy Pineiro after the draft, but he ended up going to the Raiders. 

It doesn't matter. We have a good kicker.

As long as the new guy ins't Turk level of suck... We will be fine.

(04-30-2018, 09:33 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]As long as the new guy ins't Turk level of suck... We will be fine.

oh god.... why did you have to make me remember him?