They gonna take that School Board to the cleaners.
Idiot school official, but he probably shouldnt have left until they actually suspended him.
(05-24-2018, 12:48 PM)My Desired Display Name Wrote: [ -> ]Idiot school official, but he probably shouldnt have left until they actually suspended him.
They did suspend him and remove him with a security officer. They only reversed it later.
It's only okay to take away civil liberties from people with a different political viewpoint than our own.
Signed,
Democrats
(05-24-2018, 12:53 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]It's only okay to take away civil liberties from people with a different political viewpoint than our own.
Signed,
Democrats
Nothing new in that.
(05-24-2018, 12:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]They gonna take that School Board to the cleaners.
I assume you reviewed the School Districts
Student-Parent Handbook and their S
tandards of Student Conduct prior to making that above statement so I'd love to know what your basis of that assumption. My interpretation of the policies indicate the school had every right to consider the shirt a violation. As a result, the student has no basis to file a claim.
See Handbook file #1 Page 10 Appropriate Dress and also Standards of Student Conduct file Page 22 Section 1.4 under Dress and Grooming.
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...0FINAL.pdf
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...onduct.pdf
(05-24-2018, 01:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 12:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]They gonna take that School Board to the cleaners.
I assume you reviewed the School Districts Student-Parent Handbook and their Standards of Student Conduct prior to making that above statement so I'd love to know what your basis of that assumption. My interpretation of the policies indicate the school had every right to consider the shirt a violation. As a result, the student has no basis to file a claim.
See Handbook file #1 Page 10 Appropriate Dress and also Standards of Student Conduct file Page 22 Section 1.4 under Dress and Grooming.
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...0FINAL.pdf
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...onduct.pdf
That's a joke because of the thousands of Che Guevara (murderer, rapist, gay-killer) shirts they allow.
He will win because they pick and choose who to punish based on political views
Hell, I used to wear the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia on my jacket at school, Only once did a teacher grab my arm and complain.
Times have changed though, the DemocRATS run the educational system and don't allow opposing views to be heard.
I say abolish the NEA and the Teachers Unions and put education back under local control.
(05-24-2018, 01:25 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 01:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I assume you reviewed the School Districts Student-Parent Handbook and their Standards of Student Conduct prior to making that above statement so I'd love to know what your basis of that assumption. My interpretation of the policies indicate the school had every right to consider the shirt a violation. As a result, the student has no basis to file a claim.
See Handbook file #1 Page 10 Appropriate Dress and also Standards of Student Conduct file Page 22 Section 1.4 under Dress and Grooming.
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...0FINAL.pdf
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...onduct.pdf
That's a joke because of the thousands of Che Guevara (murderer, rapist, gay-killer) shirts they allow.
He will win because they pick and choose who to punish based on political views
I can't speak for the thousands of shirts that are being worn as reflected above, but the Policy is very discretionary which places the judgement in the hands of the school.
I don't disagree that there may be partiality in their judgement but the school will win this case if it ever goes to court.
(05-24-2018, 01:36 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Hell, I used to wear the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia on my jacket at school, Only once did a teacher grab my arm and complain.
Times have changed though, the DemocRATS run the educational system and don't allow opposing views to be heard.
I say abolish the NEA and the Teachers Unions and put education back under local control.
you bet !!! our school in Western PA was filled with classic rockers that always wore album cover type shirts ..... we would have all be kicked out !!
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(05-24-2018, 12:52 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 12:48 PM)My Desired Display Name Wrote: [ -> ]Idiot school official, but he probably shouldnt have left until they actually suspended him.
They did suspend him and remove him with a security officer. They only reversed it later.
"
Barnes went home and school officials treated his absence as a suspension,"
Its semantics but I'm only thinking in terms of the lawsuit... its like being told "you can quit, or i can fire you"...one puts the onus on you and the other puts it on the company. Same thing, the school likely knew they didn't have grounds to stand on to suspend him outright so they let him make the choice himself and then suspended him for it.
(05-24-2018, 02:25 PM)My Desired Display Name Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 12:52 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ]They did suspend him and remove him with a security officer. They only reversed it later.
"Barnes went home and school officials treated his absence as a suspension,"
Its semantics but I'm only thinking in terms of the lawsuit... its like being told "you can quit, or i can fire you"...one puts the onus on you and the other puts it on the company. Same thing, the school likely knew they didn't have grounds to stand on to suspend him outright so they let him make the choice himself and then suspended him for it.
Too many versions..
I want to see the school video of the security officer forcibly removing him if that actually happened.
(05-24-2018, 01:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 12:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]They gonna take that School Board to the cleaners.
I assume you reviewed the School Districts Student-Parent Handbook and their Standards of Student Conduct prior to making that above statement so I'd love to know what your basis of that assumption. My interpretation of the policies indicate the school had every right to consider the shirt a violation. As a result, the student has no basis to file a claim.
See Handbook file #1 Page 10 Appropriate Dress and also Standards of Student Conduct file Page 22 Section 1.4 under Dress and Grooming.
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...0FINAL.pdf
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...onduct.pdf
It doesn't really matter what the school policies are, the courts (including SCOTUS) have usually sided with the student(s) in similar cases as it is a Constitutional issue.
(05-24-2018, 02:25 PM)My Desired Display Name Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 12:52 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ]They did suspend him and remove him with a security officer. They only reversed it later.
"Barnes went home and school officials treated his absence as a suspension,"
Its semantics but I'm only thinking in terms of the lawsuit... its like being told "you can quit, or i can fire you"...one puts the onus on you and the other puts it on the company. Same thing, the school likely knew they didn't have grounds to stand on to suspend him outright so they let him make the choice himself and then suspended him for it.
You obviously didn't read the School's Standard of Conduct link that I provided. I even told you where the answers were that gave the School such rights.
(05-24-2018, 03:51 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 02:25 PM)My Desired Display Name Wrote: [ -> ]"Barnes went home and school officials treated his absence as a suspension,"
Its semantics but I'm only thinking in terms of the lawsuit... its like being told "you can quit, or i can fire you"...one puts the onus on you and the other puts it on the company. Same thing, the school likely knew they didn't have grounds to stand on to suspend him outright so they let him make the choice himself and then suspended him for it.
You obviously didn't read the School's Standard of Conduct link that I provided. I even told you where the answers were that gave the School such rights.
I don't think a public school system can write rules that go against the Constitution; and if they do, they never hold up in court, because the Constitution trumps everything. It's not the military - we don't sign over our rights just cause we go to public school.
(05-24-2018, 03:51 PM)Gettin\ Jaggy with it Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 01:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I assume you reviewed the School Districts Student-Parent Handbook and their Standards of Student Conduct prior to making that above statement so I'd love to know what your basis of that assumption. My interpretation of the policies indicate the school had every right to consider the shirt a violation. As a result, the student has no basis to file a claim.
See Handbook file #1 Page 10 Appropriate Dress and also Standards of Student Conduct file Page 22 Section 1.4 under Dress and Grooming.
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...0FINAL.pdf
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...onduct.pdf
It doesn't really matter what the school policies are, the courts (including SCOTUS) have usually sided with the student(s) in similar cases as it is a Constitutional issue.
They also tend to rule against any policy too subjective or that contains too many ambiguities. It’s also stated they are “general guidlines”. The fact that he was provided the opportunity to comply with their policy enforcement and then was further punished for excepting said remedy won’t sit well with most judges.
Suing ? What exactly are the damages? Bit of missed school?
(05-24-2018, 04:50 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Suing ? What exactly are the damages? Bit of missed school?
We have this little thing called the 1st Amendment, Free Speech anyone?
(05-24-2018, 01:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2018, 12:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]They gonna take that School Board to the cleaners.
I assume you reviewed the School Districts Student-Parent Handbook and their Standards of Student Conduct prior to making that above statement so I'd love to know what your basis of that assumption. My interpretation of the policies indicate the school had every right to consider the shirt a violation. As a result, the student has no basis to file a claim.
See Handbook file #1 Page 10 Appropriate Dress and also Standards of Student Conduct file Page 22 Section 1.4 under Dress and Grooming.
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...0FINAL.pdf
https://www.hsd.k12.or.us/cms/lib/OR0221...onduct.pdf
Well, that's your interpretation.
(05-24-2018, 04:50 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Suing ? What exactly are the damages? Bit of missed school?
Anytime a person's free speech is quelched for political reasons then we suffer damage. The purpose of the lawsuit is to put the overreaching School Board in their place.
Sorry free speech is now a T-shirt?
You trumpettes are nuts.