(07-29-2018, 01:03 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (07-29-2018, 12:50 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think that is good or bad?
Do you think that has anything to do with Ramsey's absence?
Neither really, it was just an observation. And not necessarily a true observation either, just the vibe I got from the beat and fans that were at the practices.
I guess after how hot the offense seemed the first day I was hoping/expecting it would continue, especially with Ramsey out.
Nothing has stood out to me good or bad about the offense thus far.
I mean ASJ made a couple of one handed catches, but I don't know if I would say that his speed sticks out like a sore thumb compared to Lewis.
I am unsure what to think at this point either. Besides it being very early, you could say it's good because I haven't seen any disastrous plays from the starting offense. They are going against a very good defense, even without Ramsey.
But should they be hitting more big plays because Ramsey is not there?
(07-29-2018, 01:13 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]But should they be hitting more big plays because Ramsey is not there?
Maybe. I would hope that Moncrief or Dede could burn Patmon or whoever else a time or two, yeah.
(07-29-2018, 01:56 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:so what he played in the sec lol
why did you bring that up? he didn't jack against quite a few of those teams
I brought that up because you said he didn't do anything against the ACC.
You raised the conference issue.
If you are going to participate in a thread, is it too much to ask that you keep up with your own statements?
lol binary code are we? I didn't know I made it a conference issue
Great job Bullseye. These reports are always appreciated.
(07-29-2018, 10:42 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (07-29-2018, 08:48 AM)paksat Wrote: [ -> ]don't judge anything on taven based on what he does to kc mcdermott
as a hurricane fan myself, this guy earned the nickname "mcdoormatt"
it's a joke the jags even have him in uniform because there's not a single player that didn't destroy him on a regular basis in the ACC
Bryan played in the SEC.
Nevertheless, while I was impresed with what I saw with his power, I am still taking a wait and see approach, because I still have some unanswered questions.
During NFLNs draft coverage, Mayock indicated that in the game against FSU, he counted Bryan on the ground 13 or so times. Why was he on the ground so often? Does he lack balance? Does he lack awareness and gets legally blindsided all the time? Does he not protect his legs? Why was he statistically more productive despite his ability to be disruptive?
That said, there are reasons for Jags fans to be hopeful, even if Bryan has flaws to lead to those questions above. Calais Campbell has been publicly enthusiastic about taking him under his wing and mentoring him. Secondly, we have a great DL coach in Marion Hobby. Under his coaching, Ngakoue has developed into an outstanding pass rusher. He got eight sacks out of Dante Fowler. Calais Campbell had his career best season under Hobby. Furthermore, with the guys around him, he doesn't have to start out being all everything for the Dline. At least starting out, he won't be a guy opposing offenses will scheme around to neutralize. He shouldn't face too many double teams, so he has the chance to win individual matchups and maximize his impact. But barring injuries or some other unforeseen event, he won't be a starter for us this year. There is perhaps less pressure on him to succeed than any other first round pick in team history. Finally, based upon everything I have heard so far, he is a hard worker.
Given these factors, I think this is an atmosphere where Bryan can grow into a good, potentially dominant player.
I think he meant mcdermott played in the ACC not taven bryan. And his point was that average players from every team in that conference had their way with him. He's not saying Bryan is bad, he's just saying that Mcdermott is so bad that he makes everyone look good so take it with a grain of salt yk.
Thanks for the writeup Bullseye, as usual always love your insight! hard to believe Ive been reading these for 10 years plus now haha
(07-29-2018, 04:38 PM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ] (07-29-2018, 10:42 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Bryan played in the SEC.
Nevertheless, while I was impresed with what I saw with his power, I am still taking a wait and see approach, because I still have some unanswered questions.
During NFLNs draft coverage, Mayock indicated that in the game against FSU, he counted Bryan on the ground 13 or so times. Why was he on the ground so often? Does he lack balance? Does he lack awareness and gets legally blindsided all the time? Does he not protect his legs? Why was he statistically more productive despite his ability to be disruptive?
That said, there are reasons for Jags fans to be hopeful, even if Bryan has flaws to lead to those questions above. Calais Campbell has been publicly enthusiastic about taking him under his wing and mentoring him. Secondly, we have a great DL coach in Marion Hobby. Under his coaching, Ngakoue has developed into an outstanding pass rusher. He got eight sacks out of Dante Fowler. Calais Campbell had his career best season under Hobby. Furthermore, with the guys around him, he doesn't have to start out being all everything for the Dline. At least starting out, he won't be a guy opposing offenses will scheme around to neutralize. He shouldn't face too many double teams, so he has the chance to win individual matchups and maximize his impact. But barring injuries or some other unforeseen event, he won't be a starter for us this year. There is perhaps less pressure on him to succeed than any other first round pick in team history. Finally, based upon everything I have heard so far, he is a hard worker.
Given these factors, I think this is an atmosphere where Bryan can grow into a good, potentially dominant player.
I think he meant mcdermott played in the ACC not taven bryan. And his point was that average players from every team in that conference had their way with him. He's not saying Bryan is bad, he's just saying that Mcdermott is so bad that he makes everyone look good so take it with a grain of salt yk.
Thanks for the writeup Bullseye, as usual always love your insight! hard to believe Ive been reading these for 10 years plus now haha
this although I don't know how he got it confused
seeing mcdermott graduate made a lot of hurricane fans very very happy
Thx for the report bullseye. Did they not practice today?
How did bortles look today?
Thanks for the post Bullseye. You put a lot of work into that.
I'm at work so I couldn't read most of it. How did Chark look
(07-30-2018, 11:56 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the post Bullseye. You put a lot of work into that.
I'm at work so I couldn't read most of it. How did Chark look
Chark looked up and down. Early on, he seemed to have problems cutting and I wondered if he was hurt. But he did fine the rest of the practice from what I saw.
By the way, I intended to go to the practice today but had a minor emergency that precluded that.
I intend to go to the Wednesday and Friday practices though.
(07-29-2018, 06:55 PM)surfon Wrote: [ -> ]Thx for the report bullseye. Did they not practice today?
I think they practiced yesterday but I do not know for sure.
(07-28-2018, 10:50 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Chark seemed to pull up on a drill that required him to cut sharply to the left, and then he dropped a pass on an out route to the left hand side. I started to wonder if something was wrong with his ankle, he was having a bad start to practice, or he was more "straight linish" than thought/hoped. But later he showed no discernible signs to me that he had issues cutting, and later in the drills he caught a pass thrown behind him on a crossing type route.
I noticed during the first few days of camp that most of Chark's passes came from Kessler which has me thinking he's starting out behind the rest of the pack. This much is expected for a rookie, but now I'm starting to think he needs considerable developing which is something I recall thinking back when first watching film of him in college. He's deceptively fast, however, there's not much crispness in his route running. Of course, he's making the roster, but I suspect we'll be seeing him on the inactive list for the most part unless guys are injured. Of course, with Moncrief and Lee both on the roster, the chances for him to see action due to injury are pretty darn good.
(07-28-2018, 10:50 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]...today was my first good look at logan Cooke. While he looks big and got good height on his kicks, the abiding sense I have seeing him for the first time is that we will be getting another punter before the year is out. Of all of the punts he had, only one even came close to looking like one of those spiraling kicks that turn over and really flip the field. most of his punts were wobblers, with a few even looking like kickoffs from a tee. The one punt he really nailed was bobbled by Greene.
Free agent punters...
- Donnie Jones, Eagles, age: 38
- Brad Nortman, Jaguars, age: 28
- Brad Wing, Giants, age: 27
(07-28-2018, 11:27 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Great report. It's nice to see some of the young guys looking impressive. I don't expect Tanner Lee to make it to the regular season roster or the PS. He was just a bad selection. Kessler should have the backup position locked down unless we add someone before the season. Hopefully, Cooke can get it together. I was not a fan at all of using a draft pick on a punter, but never the less, we need him to produce.
They are starting to look like two wasted draft picks (Nortman wasn't the greatest, but he wasn't that bad), and I'm starting to wonder if Chark was really the best possible pick in round two.
(07-29-2018, 10:42 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (07-29-2018, 08:48 AM)paksat Wrote: [ -> ]don't judge anything on taven based on what he does to kc mcdermott
as a hurricane fan myself, this guy earned the nickname "mcdoormatt"
it's a joke the jags even have him in uniform because there's not a single player that didn't destroy him on a regular basis in the ACC
Bryan played in the SEC.
Nevertheless, while I was impresed with what I saw with his power, I am still taking a wait and see approach, because I still have some unanswered questions.
During NFLNs draft coverage, Mayock indicated that in the game against FSU, he counted Bryan on the ground 13 or so times. Why was he on the ground so often? Does he lack balance? Does he lack awareness and gets legally blindsided all the time? Does he not protect his legs? Why was he statistically more productive despite his ability to be disruptive?
That said, there are reasons for Jags fans to be hopeful, even if Bryan has flaws to lead to those questions above. Calais Campbell has been publicly enthusiastic about taking him under his wing and mentoring him. Secondly, we have a great DL coach in Marion Hobby. Under his coaching, Ngakoue has developed into an outstanding pass rusher. He got eight sacks out of Dante Fowler. Calais Campbell had his career best season under Hobby. Furthermore, with the guys around him, he doesn't have to start out being all everything for the Dline. At least starting out, he won't be a guy opposing offenses will scheme around to neutralize. He shouldn't face too many double teams, so he has the chance to win individual matchups and maximize his impact. But barring injuries or some other unforeseen event, he won't be a starter for us this year. There is perhaps less pressure on him to succeed than any other first round pick in team history. Finally, based upon everything I have heard so far, he is a hard worker.
Given these factors, I think this is an atmosphere where Bryan can grow into a good, potentially dominant player.
We saw his hit the ground again in this practice. I'm thinking it was against Josh Wells. He bull rushed the OL back a bit for what seemed like a win, but he got so low that the OL was able to push him to the ground to conclude his rush. It makes me wonder if Tavon likes the taste of dirt.
(07-29-2018, 10:59 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]That said, given the traditional paradigm of the diminutive slot receiver, I found two players being the middle of the bunch, Chark and Lazard, IRC, to be interesting. I did not discern any rub or pick action in their routes, though it is possible I missed it given the angle.
LOL. This goes against all expectations. First, Marrone mentioned last year that he wanted the WRs to learn the outside first, but here we have two rookies inside in the very first practices. Moreover, neither is diminutive as these are our two tall guys. Chark stand 6' 2 7/8" (as in a true 6' 3"), and Lazard stands an almost mind-blowing 6' 4 5/8".
(07-29-2018, 11:26 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Thinking about what I saw last night and from what I read of camp, I get the feeling our starting safeties for 2019 and beyond will be Harrison and Meeks.
I thought Meeks was a CB. The official roster does list some guys as a DB who maybe could play either spot, but they have Meeks listed as a CB, and his draft profile shows him as a top-15 CB in the last draft. Are you talking about him potentially converting from backup CB to starting FS?
(07-31-2018, 08:39 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-29-2018, 11:26 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Thinking about what I saw last night and from what I read of camp, I get the feeling our starting safeties for 2019 and beyond will be Harrison and Meeks.
I thought Meeks was a CB. The official roster does list some guys as a DB who maybe could play either spot, but they have Meeks listed as a CB, and his draft profile shows him as a top-15 CB in the last draft. Are you talking about him potentially converting from backup CB to starting FS?
Yes.
The biggest weakness in his game based on all I have been able to research is his lack of deep recovery speed. Having him aligned deep off the ball would mitigate that weakness, while still enabling him to play to his obvious strength of making plays on the ball.
I was just wondering, for those of you attending practices, has Will Richardson exclusively lined up at OT or is he seeing any time inside at RG?
(07-31-2018, 08:38 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I was just wondering, for those of you attending practices, has Will Richardson exclusively lined up at OT or is he seeing any time inside at RG?
I haven't been to camp, but I've heard nothing of him at RG, only OT. By all accounts, Cann is killing it at RG right now.