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(07-31-2018, 08:38 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I was just wondering, for those of you attending practices, has Will Richardson exclusively lined up at OT or is he seeing any time inside at RG?

I haven’t been out to camp yet but I read Richardson has been taking 3rd team reps at RT. The first team is Robinson-Norwell-Linder-Cann-Parnell and the second team has been Wells-Shatley-Reed-Walker-Poehls.
(08-01-2018, 07:35 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-31-2018, 08:38 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I was just wondering, for those of you attending practices, has Will Richardson exclusively lined up at OT or is he seeing any time inside at RG?

I haven't been to camp, but I've heard nothing of him at RG, only OT. By all accounts, Cann is killing it at RG right now.

That's the problem. Cann always looks good in Camp, but when the season starts, he's always the weak link in run blocking. I was hoping Richardson would have a chance to kick inside. I really believe the guy has potential to be a very good OG. Thanks for the info guys.
(07-31-2018, 08:09 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-28-2018, 11:27 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Great report. It's nice to see some of the young guys looking impressive. I don't expect Tanner Lee to make it to the regular season roster or the PS. He was just a bad selection. Kessler should have the backup position locked down unless we add someone before the season. Hopefully, Cooke can get it together. I was not a fan at all of using a draft pick on a punter, but never the less, we need him to produce.


They are starting to look like two wasted draft picks (Nortman wasn't the greatest, but he wasn't that bad), and I'm starting to wonder if Chark was really the best possible pick in round two.

I mentioned only a couple of plays where he had issues cutting.  Those two plays, based upon what I saw both in person and through twitter, may well have been aberrations.

(07-30-2018, 12:17 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-30-2018, 11:56 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the post Bullseye. You put a lot of work into that.

I'm at work so I couldn't read most of it. How did Chark look

Chark looked up and down.  Early on, he seemed to have problems cutting and I wondered if he was hurt.  But he did fine the rest of the practice from what I saw.

By the way, I intended to go to the practice today but had a minor emergency that precluded that.

I intend to go to the Wednesday and Friday practices, though.

AAARRRGGHH!!!!  Today is looking like a no go.

Wallbash 

  [BLEEP].    [BLEEP]!
(07-31-2018, 08:23 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-29-2018, 10:42 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Bryan played in the SEC.

Nevertheless, while I was impresed with what I saw with his power, I am still taking a wait and see approach, because I still have some unanswered questions.

During NFLNs draft coverage, Mayock indicated that in the game against FSU, he counted Bryan on the ground 13 or so times.  Why was he on the ground so often?  Does he lack balance?  Does he lack awareness and gets legally blindsided all the time?  Does he not protect his legs?  Why was he statistically more productive despite his ability to be disruptive?

That said, there are reasons for Jags fans to be hopeful, even if Bryan has flaws to lead to those questions above.  Calais Campbell has been publicly enthusiastic about taking him under his wing and mentoring him.  Secondly, we have a great DL coach in Marion Hobby.  Under his coaching, Ngakoue has developed into an outstanding pass rusher.  He got eight sacks out of Dante Fowler.  Calais Campbell had his career best season under Hobby.   Furthermore, with the guys around him, he doesn't have to start out being all everything for the Dline.  At least starting out, he won't be a guy opposing offenses will scheme around to neutralize.  He shouldn't face too many double teams, so he has the chance to win individual matchups and maximize his impact. But barring injuries or some other unforeseen event, he won't be a starter for us this year.  There is perhaps less pressure on him to succeed than any other first round pick in team history.  Finally, based upon everything I have heard so far, he is a hard worker.

Given these factors, I think this is an atmosphere where Bryan can grow into a good, potentially dominant player.


We saw his hit the ground again in this practice. I'm thinking it was against Josh Wells. He bull rushed the OL back a bit for what seemed like a win, but he got so low that the OL was able to push him to the ground to conclude his rush. It makes me wonder if Tavon likes the taste of dirt. 

One thing I have subsequently heard and noticed from the various twitter clips of camp is that when he gets locked onto a block his legs stop moving.

The coaches are urging him to continue to drive his legs.
(08-01-2018, 08:45 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-31-2018, 08:23 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]We saw his hit the ground again in this practice. I'm thinking it was against Josh Wells. He bull rushed the OL back a bit for what seemed like a win, but he got so low that the OL was able to push him to the ground to conclude his rush. It makes me wonder if Tavon likes the taste of dirt. 

One thing I have subsequently heard and noticed from the various twitter clips of camp is that when he gets locked onto a block his legs stop moving.

The coaches are urging him to continue to drive his legs.

Bryan looks like a guy that's been getting by on sheer strength and very little technique. 

He may take a while to get all coached up, but he's in good hands with Hobby and Campbell. 
When he gets some footwork together and learns some better leverage concepts he'll be scary IMO. 

Just watching the little clips from camp this far, it's clear he has no arsenal of pass rush moves. His footwork looks like a guessing game and I think he's going on pure instinct with his hands and upper body. Hopefully the coaching starts to sink in sooner than later.
(08-01-2018, 08:31 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-01-2018, 07:35 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't been to camp, but I've heard nothing of him at RG, only OT. By all accounts, Cann is killing it at RG right now.

That's the problem. Cann always looks good in Camp, but when the season starts, he's always the weak link in run blocking. I was hoping Richardson would have a chance to kick inside. I really believe the guy has potential to be a very good OG. Thanks for the info guys.
I'm optimistic about Cann this upcoming season. Contract years usually bring out the best, so it's now or never for Cann.
(07-29-2018, 11:26 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Thinking about what I saw last night and from what I read of camp, I get the feeling our starting safeties for 2019 and beyond will be Harrison and Meeks.

I want to go back and see that near INT he dropped.

Was that part of a designed rotation of the DBs on that play, did his coverage responsibilities take him in the vicinity, did he just anticipate the throw correctly, or was it just reaction?

If it were the latter two, that would be absolutely fantastic news for the Jaguars.

If he anticipated the throw correctly it shows either his football IQ or his instincts are high.  If it were just reaction, then he covered a ton of ground to get to that pass.

This was taken from the Twitter thread...courtesy of First Coast News.


Quote:Harrison was a playmaker at Alabama, posting 174 tackles, 3.5 sacks, seven interceptions and 17 pass breakups in just three seasons. Gipson has seen Harrison's playmaking ability up close and he credits the rookie's intelligence as the catalyst for that success.

"He understands football, and that is one of the things that you look at," Gipson said. "He knows how to play the game of football, and I don’t know if you want to give Nick Saban all that credit. He is just genetically gifted. I am excited to have young guys like that that give us depth. It is an exciting thing like that to be able to coach young guys up. He is quiet, he doesn’t talk much, but when he goes out there he plays, and all he does is make plays.”


So that provides insight on that issue.

That is good to hear.
(08-01-2018, 08:58 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-01-2018, 08:45 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]One thing I have subsequently heard and noticed from the various twitter clips of camp is that when he gets locked onto a block his legs stop moving.

The coaches are urging him to continue to drive his legs.

Bryan looks like a guy that's been getting by on sheer strength and very little technique. 

He may take a while to get all coached up, but he's in good hands with Hobby and Campbell. 
When he gets some footwork together and learns some better leverage concepts he'll be scary IMO. 


Just watching the little clips from camp this far, it's clear he has no arsenal of pass rush moves. His footwork looks like a guessing game and I think he's going on pure instinct with his hands and upper body. Hopefully the coaching starts to sink in sooner than later.

This is what I am counting on.

Hobby has proven able to develop guys for the NFL, guys like Vic Beasley, Ngakoue and Fowler.

Calais Campbell, a respected and accomplished vet who is willing to teach, has played inside and outside, and should be able to provide additional insight.

Besides, if all stay healthy, he shouldn't be rushed in or forced to start before he is ready.  He should be in a rotation deep enough to where he is put in positions to play to his strengths early on.  As I saw telling one former board member who won't be named, he has less pressure on him right now than any first round pick in team history.

It's the perfect atmosphere for him to develop.
Yep all of the predraft knocks on Bryan were that he overshot plays or was on the ground any time he didn't make an impactful play. Maybe he's just the baseball version of the en vogue three true outcome hitters.
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