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"No borders.  No walls.  No USA at all."

This is what you end up with.

The soulless MSM will bury this fact.

Build the Damn Wall NOW!

(08-21-2018, 07:44 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]The soulless MSM will bury this fact.

The Washington Post (couldn't read the article without subscribing, btw) isn't MSM? It was reported on CNN, as well.

The suspect has reportedly been in the country 4 - 7 years, do we know where he crossed the border?

(08-21-2018, 10:03 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-21-2018, 07:44 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]The soulless MSM will bury this fact.

The Washington Post (couldn't read the article without subscribing, btw) isn't MSM? It was reported on CNN, as well.

The suspect has reportedly been in the country 4 - 7 years,  do we know where he crossed the border?

Somewhere illegally?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LscGutJTY54

Fox News is talking about "a girl in Iowa".

(08-21-2018, 10:03 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-21-2018, 07:44 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]The soulless MSM will bury this fact.

The suspect has reportedly been in the country 4 - 7 years,  do we know where he crossed the border?

So he arrived on Obama's watch.
Does it matter where he crossed?

(08-22-2018, 08:52 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-21-2018, 10:03 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]The suspect has reportedly been in the country 4 - 7 years,  do we know where he crossed the border?

So he arrived on Obama's watch.
Does it matter where he crossed?

If you're using this as evidence we need a physical wall it does.

(08-22-2018, 08:24 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LscGutJTY54

Fox News is talking about "a girl in Iowa".

You bet they are. It's red meat to their viewers and gives them a reason to ignore everything else we see on that screen.

(08-22-2018, 09:48 AM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-22-2018, 08:52 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]So he arrived on Obama's watch.
Does it matter where he crossed?

If you're using this as evidence we need a physical wall it does.

Oh... there's millions of reasons to have a physical wall. (Roughly 11 million of them)
And a million more to allow ICE and Border Patrol to engage and do their job without worrying about hurting people's feelings.

Anywho... I'm guessing dude crossed through Mexico. But I suppose he could have legally flown to Canada and come through that border........lulz

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(08-22-2018, 09:58 AM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-22-2018, 08:24 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LscGutJTY54

Fox News is talking about "a girl in Iowa".

You bet they are. It's red meat to their viewers and gives them a reason to ignore everything else we see on that screen.

lol

Fox News really covers it fairly, albeit with a conservative lean.
They don't give Trump as many passes as you guys would make it seem.

Guys like Chris Wallace and Bret Baier report down the middle.
Of course... there's plenty of opinion talking heads on the network that all have their own conservative views and angles and talking points.

But when it comes to news... they report it, usually without any bias.
As opposed to other networks and news outlets that will literally leave out facts, change facts, and report lies as truths just to attack a person they don't like.

But carry on...

(08-22-2018, 09:58 AM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-22-2018, 08:24 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Fox News is talking about "a girl in Iowa".

You bet they are. It's red meat to their viewers and gives them a reason to ignore everything else we see on that screen.

Good point. I remember how the Democrats abandoned Bill Clinton when questions of crooked Whitewater and Rose law firm dealings, along with a lengthy string of disgraced mistresses, surfaced.

Wait...

The boarder should simply be electronic surveillance/intervention as with weaponized drones along with physical troops that are already on the payroll. They should be deterring illegal crossings by whatever force necessary. That girl would still be alive today if that boarder was secure at the time that sub human garbage strolled over here.

(08-22-2018, 10:38 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]The boarder should simply be electronic surveillance/intervention as with weaponized drones along with physical troops that are already on the payroll. They should be deterring illegal crossings by whatever force necessary. That girl would still be alive today if that boarder was secure at the time that sub human garbage strolled over here.

Indeed... if TSA can pat us down and look up our rears to keep our airways safe
why can't these guys do their jobs at the border?

Previous administrations wanted ICE and Border patrol to not engage, not chase, use no force with illegals crossing.
Then there was catch and release (which happened after Obama had caged up children, later to be blamed on Trump)

IDK... it is well known across the world about America, it's immigration policies, and how the general public feels about it.
We should be able to shoot on sight to protect our home, imo.

(08-22-2018, 08:24 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LscGutJTY54

Fox News is talking about "a girl in Iowa".

Think she would be more sensitive if it was some African American girl in Iowa?

(08-22-2018, 10:42 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]Indeed... if TSA can pat us down and look up our rears to keep our airways safe
why can't these guys do their jobs at the border?

Previous administrations wanted ICE and Border patrol to not engage, not chase, use no force with illegals crossing.
Then there was catch and release (which happened after Obama had caged up children, later to be blamed on Trump)

IDK... it is well known across the world about America, it's immigration policies, and how the general public feels about it.
We should be able to shoot on sight to protect our home, imo.

Years ago I was doing some work in Pharr, Texas. I met this dude who owned a ranch that had some 20 miles of boarder. I can guaranty you that there are not illegals crossing this dudes property. The folks down there protect their own property.

(08-21-2018, 08:01 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Build the Damn Wall NOW!

We're still waiting for the money from Mexico that Trump promised, so we can build it. What's the hold up?

(08-22-2018, 10:56 AM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Think she would be more sensitive if it was some African American girl in Iowa?

Maybe, if it was a white guy that killed her. Otherwise? Probably not. Certainly not at the cost of losing precious airtime dogging the devil that is Trump.

He may have crossed legally, with a temporary visa of some sort.
We do not know, and we may never know.
But if he crossed legally that means a wall does you no good.
You need some means to prevent and punish people from overstaying their visas.

(08-22-2018, 11:22 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-21-2018, 08:01 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]Build the Damn Wall NOW!

We're still waiting for the money from Mexico that Trump promised, so we can build it. What's the hold up?

Not much evidently.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/trump-ec...loser.html

(08-22-2018, 11:49 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]He may have crossed legally, with a temporary visa of some sort.
We do not know, and we may never know.
But if he crossed legally that means a wall does you no good.
You need some means to prevent and punish people from overstaying their visas.

They can start by strictly enforcing already existing laws.

Also reported that this dude was farm handing in the area for years. Anyone that employed this guy has a level of culpability IMO. If people won't employ them the flow will dry up. Unfortunately, the companies that do not employ them find it very hard to compete with the ones that do.