(08-25-2018, 09:25 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2018, 07:28 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]So I'm on the hook for your stupid decisions? Pardon me for being offended for how other people use my time, effort, and life without my consent. No, it's your problem, leave me out of it.
That's nice. Especially how I'm selfish for wanting to keep what's mine. Jackass.
Yep that is being selfish. The world doesn’t revolve around just you.
So you arent selfish for declaring that you have a right to my life? Lol. You're plenty generous with what doesn't belong to you.
The FBI didn't raid Bill Clintons Lawyers office after he paid Paula Jones 850K to go away.......
(08-26-2018, 08:00 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]The FBI didn't raid Bill Clintons Lawyers office after he paid Paula Jones 850K to go away.......
So Clinton was impeached for less, then?
(08-26-2018, 08:35 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (08-26-2018, 08:00 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]The FBI didn't raid Bill Clintons Lawyers office after he paid Paula Jones 850K to go away.......
So Clinton was impeached for less, then?
If Slick Willy was a Republican then getting the Lewinsky in the Oval Office would've been classified as an unreported campaign contribution.
(08-25-2018, 07:28 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2018, 03:29 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Holy [BLEEP]! We've found the modern day Jesus Christ! A man who has NEVER EVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG- EVER! How fortunate we are to have this man in our presence to show us how to live the perfect life. 
I rarely stoop to the level of name calling because I find it useless, hurtful and counterproductive, but you make the exception. You are an idiot. Truly. Your mindset is exactly what is wrong with this country. You live in your little box where everything is "just so" and everything outside of it is "wrong". That's not how life works.
Do we all make choices- good, bad, ugly, or indifferent - that put us where we are at this moment? Yes. But at the time of our choices things are not always what they seem; they're not always black & white. Given the "perfect storm" of circumstances we are all capable of some pretty terrific and pretty terrible things.
So I'm on the hook for your stupid decisions? Pardon me for being offended for how other people use my time, effort, and life without my consent. No, it's your problem, leave me out of it.
(08-25-2018, 01:00 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]
The CDC is more concerned about a health crisis that could make its way down to affect innocent people, not some selfish-self centered person concerned about their tax dollars.
That's nice. Especially how I'm selfish for wanting to keep what's mine. Jackass.
It's your lack of compassion for people that makes you such a nasty individual.
(08-25-2018, 04:13 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]Show of hands...how many of you discounting Mueller's investigation because it has so far resulted only in indictments and convictions not directly related his original mandate were equally as dismissive of Ken Starr's investigation into the Whitewater land deal, which lasted longer, ended up with far fewer indictments and none against Clintons beyond an impeachment over an unrelated lie about a stained blue dress.
Not true. People were indicted and convicted based on the original mandate of that investigation. The call to indict Hillary was close and they actually wrote a draft. The challenge was that an INDICTMENT would be tested by the grand jury and eventually a criminal jury.
Conversely, no American has been charged with Russian collusion or conspiracy. They've all been process crimes of misremembering or old tax cases. This investigation has always and only been about writing a referral report for impeachment. In the case of impeachment reports, they don't have to be tested in a court of law and that's how u can get Cohen dead to rights on unrelated bank and tax issues, have him plea to a non existent crime and implicate the president in the happy time murders.
Also, regulations require a specific crime to investigate at the outset of a special counsel investigation. In white water there was a crime in this case no such crime was specified. Also, there should be no conflicts of interest. Mueller was appointed by a gentleman who could be implicated ..for signing a fraudulent 4th for a renewal against the Trump campaign. He himself was just REJECTED as director of the FBI. His appointment was triggered by the illegal leaking of classified information by james comey. He has a long substantial and lucrative prior relationship with him comey. Rosenstein himself would be a witness in a case of obstruction (which is an impossible charge under article II). So from every conceivable foundational angle this probe is illegitimate.
(08-26-2018, 09:57 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2018, 07:28 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]So I'm on the hook for your stupid decisions? Pardon me for being offended for how other people use my time, effort, and life without my consent. No, it's your problem, leave me out of it.
That's nice. Especially how I'm selfish for wanting to keep what's mine. Jackass.
It's your lack of compassion for people that makes you such a nasty individual.
Forced compassion isn't compassion, it's compulsion. I have a ton of compassion, the list would cripple your presumption of me, but the direction of my compassion should be my choice. Being forced give my time, energy and money to save others from the consequences of their choices isn't right. The forced part is the issue, if they choose to shoot up and sleep around then that's their choice and I'm ok with that choice, just get off the notion that I (or you, or we if that makes you feel better) should be their salvation when it goes wrong.
(08-26-2018, 09:57 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2018, 07:28 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]So I'm on the hook for your stupid decisions? Pardon me for being offended for how other people use my time, effort, and life without my consent. No, it's your problem, leave me out of it.
That's nice. Especially how I'm selfish for wanting to keep what's mine. Jackass.
It's your lack of compassion for people that makes you such a nasty individual.
The liberal formula:
Not liking your views challenged = non-compassionate nasty individual
If people as dumb as Schumer & Pelosi are "smart" enough to understand the danger of impeachment talk then how come the rest of the democrats aren't following suit?
How compassionate is it to endorse a policy that lets the poison stream into the country in the first place?
(08-26-2018, 01:23 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]How compassionate is it to endorse a policy that lets the poison stream into the country in the first place?
Calling people "poison" is not super compassionate.
Every immigration bill that's been discussed for the last 15 years has included spending more money to secure the border. We even built a fence starting back in 2007 over most of the southern border.
(08-26-2018, 10:45 AM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2018, 04:13 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]Show of hands...how many of you discounting Mueller's investigation because it has so far resulted only in indictments and convictions not directly related his original mandate were equally as dismissive of Ken Starr's investigation into the Whitewater land deal, which lasted longer, ended up with far fewer indictments and none against Clintons beyond an impeachment over an unrelated lie about a stained blue dress.
Not true. People were indicted and convicted based on the original mandate of that investigation. The call to indict Hillary was close and they actually wrote a draft. The challenge was that an INDICTMENT would be tested by the grand jury and eventually a criminal jury.
Conversely, no American has been charged with Russian collusion or conspiracy. They've all been process crimes of misremembering or old tax cases. This investigation has always and only been about writing a referral report for impeachment. In the case of impeachment reports, they don't have to be tested in a court of law and that's how u can get Cohen dead to rights on unrelated bank and tax issues, have him plea to a non existent crime and implicate the president in the happy time murders.
Also, regulations require a specific crime to investigate at the outset of a special counsel investigation. In white water there was a crime in this case no such crime was specified. Also, there should be no conflicts of interest. Mueller was appointed by a gentleman who could be implicated ..for signing a fraudulent 4th for a renewal against the Trump campaign. He himself was just REJECTED as director of the FBI. His appointment was triggered by the illegal leaking of classified information by james comey. He has a long substantial and lucrative prior relationship with him comey. Rosenstein himself would be a witness in a case of obstruction (which is an impossible charge under article II). So from every conceivable foundational angle this probe is illegitimate.
You seem to know some of your facts, but seem to lack the will to face them, or interpret them, or learn the adjacent facts.
(08-26-2018, 01:23 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]How compassionate is it to endorse a policy that lets the poison stream into the country in the first place?
What "poison" are you referring to here?
Heroine and fentanyl
(08-26-2018, 03:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-26-2018, 01:23 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]How compassionate is it to endorse a policy that lets the poison stream into the country in the first place?
Calling people "poison" is not super compassionate.
Every immigration bill that's been discussed for the last 15 years has included spending more money to secure the border. We even built a fence starting back in 2007 over most of the southern border.
(08-26-2018, 10:45 AM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]Not true. People were indicted and convicted based on the original mandate of that investigation. The call to indict Hillary was close and they actually wrote a draft. The challenge was that an INDICTMENT would be tested by the grand jury and eventually a criminal jury.
Conversely, no American has been charged with Russian collusion or conspiracy. They've all been process crimes of misremembering or old tax cases. This investigation has always and only been about writing a referral report for impeachment. In the case of impeachment reports, they don't have to be tested in a court of law and that's how u can get Cohen dead to rights on unrelated bank and tax issues, have him plea to a non existent crime and implicate the president in the happy time murders.
Also, regulations require a specific crime to investigate at the outset of a special counsel investigation. In white water there was a crime in this case no such crime was specified. Also, there should be no conflicts of interest. Mueller was appointed by a gentleman who could be implicated ..for signing a fraudulent 4th for a renewal against the Trump campaign. He himself was just REJECTED as director of the FBI. His appointment was triggered by the illegal leaking of classified information by james comey. He has a long substantial and lucrative prior relationship with him comey. Rosenstein himself would be a witness in a case of obstruction (which is an impossible charge under article II). So from every conceivable foundational angle this probe is illegitimate.
You seem to know some of your facts, but seem to lack the will to face them, or interpret them, or learn the adjacent facts.
1.) I was talking about the opiods
2.) Lol.
(08-26-2018, 03:07 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (08-26-2018, 01:23 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]How compassionate is it to endorse a policy that lets the poison stream into the country in the first place?
What "poison" are you referring to here?
He’s referrrung to All Spanish people who come from Mexico, Cuba, Latin America, etc.
(08-26-2018, 04:15 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ] (08-26-2018, 03:07 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]What "poison" are you referring to here?
He’s referrrung to All Spanish people who come from Mexico, Cuba, Latin America, etc.
Further proof that u will never EVER be on my level (insert sunglass emoji)
(08-26-2018, 11:19 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-26-2018, 09:57 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]It's your lack of compassion for people that makes you such a nasty individual.
Forced compassion isn't compassion, it's compulsion. I have a ton of compassion, the list would cripple your presumption of me, but the direction of my compassion should be my choice. Being forced give my time, energy and money to save others from the consequences of their choices isn't right. The forced part is the issue, if they choose to shoot up and sleep around then that's their choice and I'm ok with that choice, just get off the notion that I (or you, or we if that makes you feel better) should be their salvation when it goes wrong.
I get what you're saying and to a point I agree, but this is the world we live in and somewhere along the line some genius made it okay to spend taxpayer dollars on social issues and this is where we're at with it. Much like the government should stay out of the business of the opioid crisis (they should leave addiction issues between the patient and the doctor, not make everyone suffering with chronic pain suffer even more by withholding a drug they have no addictive issues with) they should stay out of a lot of things but they won't. Again thanks to some genius.
My issue with you is you don't seem to understand that people don't always choose to be where they are. At least not knowingly. We are all one bad decision away from a life very different than the one we live now. And that bad decision is rarely as obvuous as a flashing sign that screams, "this is a bad choice!! Don't do it!"
(08-26-2018, 04:37 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-26-2018, 04:15 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]He’s referrrung to All Spanish people who come from Mexico, Cuba, Latin America, etc.
Further proof that I will never EVER be on my level (insert sunglass emoji)
I, my, You, them
Whatever you are trying to convey, yeah I guess.
Stupid auto correct. U get the point
(08-26-2018, 04:38 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-26-2018, 11:19 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Forced compassion isn't compassion, it's compulsion. I have a ton of compassion, the list would cripple your presumption of me, but the direction of my compassion should be my choice. Being forced give my time, energy and money to save others from the consequences of their choices isn't right. The forced part is the issue, if they choose to shoot up and sleep around then that's their choice and I'm ok with that choice, just get off the notion that I (or you, or we if that makes you feel better) should be their salvation when it goes wrong.
I get what you're saying and to a point I agree, but this is the world we live in and somewhere along the line some genius made it okay to spend taxpayer dollars on social issues and this is where we're at with it. Much like the government should stay out of the business of the opioid crisis (they should leave addiction issues between the patient and the doctor, not make everyone suffering with chronic pain suffer even more by withholding a drug they have no addictive issues with) they should stay out of a lot of things but they won't. Again thanks to some genius.
My issue with you is you don't seem to understand that people don't always choose to be where they are. At least not knowingly. We are all one bad decision away from a life very different than the one we live now. And that bad decision is rarely as obvuous as a flashing sign that screams, "this is a bad choice!! Don't do it!"
But why do you think that your bad decision, knowing or unknowing, is my responsibility to pay for? It doesn't make me a nasty person to not drop a dollar in the panhandlers cup, why are you so angry at me about this very similar stance?
And you really think that there's a single person who shoots up that doesn't know what's gonna happen next? Same with cigarettes, cheeseburgers, whisky or anything else in the vice category, they are dangerous and you are taking a risk to use.
And just because something is some way that means we can't disagree with it and work to change It? Because that seems to be the antithesis of progess.
not gonna read the thread (just read this 5th page and it’s already derailed) but...
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
Flynn
Manafort
Page
Cohen
Papadopoulos
Roger Stone
Felix Slater
All tied to Russia or pleaded guilty to an illegal activity
And that’s just off the top of my head.
Don Jr. should be worried.
Forget collusion, this is treason
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