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Quote:Bortles first year- 3-13

Bortles 2nd year- 5-11

Bortles 3rd year- 2-3


Constant improvement. Fans who say Bortles digressed after 5 games are a joke. It's called a SEASON for a reason. Bortles numbers at the end of the year will be great and these clowns who in Bortles first year wanted Gabbert back will be proven wrong again

 

So how much do you get paid to be Blake's personal PR guy?  You act like the guy is practically a deity.  Have you personally seen him walk on water?

Time to grow up and play BIG BOY football now.

Nope, Nick Saban would have had the Jags in the playoffs last year and a SB contender this year.

Quote:Nope, Nick Saban would have had the Jags in the playoffs last year and a SB contender this year.

Just like he did with the dolphins

Quote:It's been 4 years since Gus and Dave have taken over.

 

This is not the season to be patient. We should be expecting this team to win.

 


Yes.



 

Quote:Time to grow up and play BIG BOY football now.

Double yes.

Quote:Nope, Nick Saban would have had the Jags in the playoffs last year and a SB contender this year.

 

Someone obviously forgot who Miami's coach was when they only won one game.

Quote:Nope, Nick Saban would have had the Jags in the playoffs last year and a SB contender this year.

:no:  :no:

Quote:It's just the nature of this division. The team with the winning record will make the playoffs, our division stinks. That is why fans expect it, because it doesn't take much to get there.

 

The division is significantly better than it gets credit for. Sure, it doesn't have that team that looks like a Super Bowl champion, but the teams are a lot more even.

 

The Texans haven't lost to a team not generally considered the best in their division (in fact many would argue their two losses are to the AFC and NFCs best teams), and you could argue the same for the Titans. People run these teams down because they do stuff like almost lose to Indy. But maybe Indy isn't as bad as they think. And why do they think Indy is horrible? Because they lost to the Jags and Texans. It's a self-reinforcing cycle.

 

It'll be interesting to see what happens this week when the Texans win in Denver and the Jags give the Raiders a game.

I smell a tinhorn

Quote:WOOOOHOOOO!!! We have something to look forward to!

Going to the 'SHIP?

Quote:Sorry, I digress, but It is a word. Look it up.

Ohhhhhhh hold up, lemme get my popcorn!

Quote:Thats not what he said...Khan said "a winning season is a reasonable expectation" 

It's interesting to note that he said "a winning season is a 'reasonable' expectation". This is not quite the same as saying that a winning season is mandatory... or else. Now I'm one who has been adamant that a .500 season (8-8) is both a realistic goal and should be viewed as the 'benchmark'. Another sub .500 season this year and there should be career ending consequences (at least in J'ville) for the head coach and at least one assistant coach. 

 

We are currently at 2-3; for us to reach the 'lofty' goal of at least an 8-8 season, we'll need to defeat (at least) six more teams on our schedule. That means six more victories out of eleven remaining games. Say we 'split' with the texans, tacks, and colts (a big presumption, I might add). Maybe we pull out a win against the lions, and maybe, just maybe, a win over the raiders. That's only five wins total for a 5-11 season. For us to reach 8-8 we're going to have to achieve at least three 'upset' victories.

 

We had a good shot at upsetting the packers and ravens, but blew the opportunity. Now were probably going to have to sweep one or more of our own division opponents to reach 8-8.

 

I doubt that's happening this season, but I hope I'm wrong.

Quote:The division is significantly better than it gets credit for. Sure, it doesn't have that team that looks like a Super Bowl champion, but the teams are a lot more even.

 

The Texans haven't lost to a team not generally considered the best in their division (in fact many would argue their two losses are to the AFC and NFCs best teams), and you could argue the same for the Titans. People run these teams down because they do stuff like almost lose to Indy. But maybe Indy isn't as bad as they think. And why do they think Indy is horrible? Because they lost to the Jags and Texans. It's a self-reinforcing cycle.

 

It'll be interesting to see what happens this week when the Texans win in Denver and the Jags give the Raiders a game.

 

The reason everyone goes nuts over Houston's losses is they proved the Texans are unable to beat quality opponents on the road - something a team must do to be considered a true playoff contender. So far it is looking like Houston is just the best team in the worst division, which does not translate to being lumped in with the other 4-2 teams.

Quote:It's interesting to note that he said "a winning season is a 'reasonable' expectation". This is not quite the same as saying that a winning season is mandatory... or else. Now I'm one who has been adamant that a .500 season (8-8) is both a realistic goal and should be viewed as the 'benchmark'. Another sub .500 season this year and there should be career ending consequences (at least in J'ville) for the head coach and at least one assistant coach. 

 

We are currently at 2-3; for us to reach the 'lofty' goal of at least an 8-8 season, we'll need to defeat (at least) six more teams on our schedule. That means six more victories out of eleven remaining games. Say we 'split' with the texans, tacks, and colts (a big presumption, I might add). Maybe we pull out a win against the lions, and maybe, just maybe, a win over the raiders. That's only five wins total for a 5-11 season. For us to reach 8-8 we're going to have to achieve at least three 'upset' victories.

 

We had a good shot at upsetting the packers and ravens, but blew the opportunity. Now were probably going to have to sweep one or more of our own division opponents to reach 8-8.

 

I doubt that's happening this season, but I hope I'm wrong.

 

We don't go to Detroit until Week 11. That is plenty of time to improve. You could say that about the Lions too, but looking at the glass half full, it means we may be the favorites. Same for Buffalo if the Bills crash before Week 12.

Quote:The division is significantly better than it gets credit for. Sure, it doesn't have that team that looks like a Super Bowl champion, but the teams are a lot more even.


The Texans haven't lost to a team not generally considered the best in their division (in fact many would argue their two losses are to the AFC and NFCs best teams), and you could argue the same for the Titans. People run these teams down because they do stuff like almost lose to Indy. But maybe Indy isn't as bad as they think. And why do they think Indy is horrible? Because they lost to the Jags and Texans. It's a self-reinforcing cycle.


It'll be interesting to see what happens this week when the Texans win in Denver and the Jags give the Raiders a game.

The Texans need a miracle to win in Denver. And there's a high chance the Jags stink it up.

Quote:This is a young team with a lot of upside but are we the fans expecting too much from them, since this is a very inexperienced team still learning how to gel with one another. How much time does a young team need to mature?

 

In short. Yes. I am impressed the defense has played so well this year with so much new blood on it. And with a new coordinator trying to piece all of that together. Wash has actually pleasantly surprised me. Granted, we still have eleven games to go this year. But the offense still needs a lot of work. We've been in some close games. We had the Packers and Ravens within one score to take the lead and win it. We just need to get the running game more consistent and we need Olson to stop trying to make Bortles a pocket passer and let the kid run around with bootlegs, fakes and so forth. He's better outside of the pocket than he is inside of the pocket. 

Unfortunately.

Our team is obviously still not playing with any type of consistency. Does it matter if it's year 2 or year 53 that is the state of the franchise. We are inconsistent our star players are very inconsistent and we are lucky to have two wins. This has to be on the coaching because the new players who werent with the team last year are almost all on defense and theyre almost all playing well.

Our problem os obviously on offense. Which is scary. I dony believe anyone is to blame oyher than the coaches

Quote:We don't go to Detroit until Week 11. That is plenty of time to improve. You could say that about the Lions too, but looking at the glass half full, it means we may be the favorites. Same for Buffalo if the Bills crash before Week 12.

The bills are playing much better football than we are, so the one's more likely to 'crash' are the Jags. I'm sorry, but I'm disinclined to view this team through 'teal colored glasses' after years of losing. I want this team to reach at least an 8-8 record this season. That was a realistic expectation and should have been achievable. Now, I'm not so hopeful of it; we're simply not playing very good football and only barely defeating relatively bad teams.

 

As much as I wish the Jags would reach at least 8-8 this season, I've lowered my expectation to something closer to maybe 5-11. I do this based on my observation of how we're currently performing and the given schedule we face. Yes, by later in the season the Jags should (at least theoretically) be playing better... but so will the other teams.

 

The probability is that we will split with the other teams in our division. We might beat the lions, and maybe even the raiders, but that's only 6 victories; I really don't see us beating anyone else, certainly not the vikings, broncos, bills, or chiefs. Our best hope at reaching at least 8-8 is going to be if we can sweep our own division. How likely do you think that is?

Stitch, there is a big difference between hoping the team wins eight games and believing we probably will. Hoping is wanting the team to win, not expecting us to. So don't lower your hopes for this team's chances of winning six more games.

 

Of course I am not blind enough to think the Lions and Bills games are gimmes. I know we can lose either or both of them. But there is no reason to expect losses in Detroit and Buffalo unlike the home games against Denver and Minnesota.