09-15-2018, 11:45 AM
09-15-2018, 02:23 PM
It's not a violation of the Logan Act, which by the way is a silly law which hasn't been enacted in 160 years, never resulted in a conviction and may be unconstitutional. It's not a good look, but is it any worse than Senators drafting a letter to the Iranian government in an attempt to undermine Obama?
09-15-2018, 02:40 PM
Traitor then, traitor now.
09-15-2018, 02:57 PM
The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized persons with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States.
The way I read the Logan act, it is a violation being committed by John Kerry
The way I read the Logan act, it is a violation being committed by John Kerry
09-15-2018, 04:15 PM
(09-15-2018, 02:40 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Traitor then, traitor now.
When was then?
09-15-2018, 04:40 PM
Momma always said you can never trust a man with two first names. Words to live by.
09-15-2018, 06:14 PM
(09-15-2018, 02:23 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]It's not a violation of the Logan Act, which by the way is a silly law which hasn't been enacted in 160 years, never resulted in a conviction and may be unconstitutional. It's not a good look, but is it any worse than Senators drafting a letter to the Iranian government in an attempt to undermine Obama?
I don't have an opinion about the Logan act but I agree that what John Kerry is doing is no worse than what Tom Cotton did.
09-15-2018, 08:11 PM
(09-15-2018, 06:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ](09-15-2018, 02:23 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]It's not a violation of the Logan Act, which by the way is a silly law which hasn't been enacted in 160 years, never resulted in a conviction and may be unconstitutional. It's not a good look, but is it any worse than Senators drafting a letter to the Iranian government in an attempt to undermine Obama?
I don't have an opinion about the Logan act but I agree that what John Kerry is doing is no worse than what Tom Cotton did.
Mike you have gotten so much better but can you do one more favor please? I am searching for what Tom Cotton did but my algorithms are not pulling up anything. Please provide a link when you reference things.
09-15-2018, 08:34 PM
(09-15-2018, 08:11 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ](09-15-2018, 06:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have an opinion about the Logan act but I agree that what John Kerry is doing is no worse than what Tom Cotton did.
Mike you have gotten so much better but can you do one more favor please? I am searching for what Tom Cotton did but my algorithms are not pulling up anything. Please provide a link when you reference things.
Tom Cotton wrote a letter to the Ayatollahs while Kerry was negotiating with them. Cotton's letter said they shouldn't trust Kerry because Obama was going to be gone after 2016 regardless. The letter was factual but it's not the right message. New Presidents should honor the commitments of prior Presidents, until circumstances beyond the name of the man in the white house actually change. or else no President will be trusted in international negotiations.
09-15-2018, 08:45 PM
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09-16-2018, 01:56 PM
(09-15-2018, 08:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ](09-15-2018, 08:11 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Mike you have gotten so much better but can you do one more favor please? I am searching for what Tom Cotton did but my algorithms are not pulling up anything. Please provide a link when you reference things.
Tom Cotton wrote a letter to the Ayatollahs while Kerry was negotiating with them. Cotton's letter said they shouldn't trust Kerry because Obama was going to be gone after 2016 regardless. The letter was factual but it's not the right message. New Presidents should honor the commitments of prior Presidents, until circumstances beyond the name of the man in the white house actually change. or else no President will be trusted in international negotiations.
No matter how much it hurts.... I'm not giving up on u .
09-16-2018, 07:42 PM
(09-15-2018, 08:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ](09-15-2018, 08:11 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Mike you have gotten so much better but can you do one more favor please? I am searching for what Tom Cotton did but my algorithms are not pulling up anything. Please provide a link when you reference things.
Tom Cotton wrote a letter to the Ayatollahs while Kerry was negotiating with them. Cotton's letter said they shouldn't trust Kerry because Obama was going to be gone after 2016 regardless. The letter was factual but it's not the right message. New Presidents should honor the commitments of prior Presidents, until circumstances beyond the name of the man in the white house actually change. or else no President will be trusted in international negotiations.
If someone said water was wet, you could literally write a 300 word post arguing that it isn't.
If you aren't a lawyer, you should be.
09-16-2018, 08:15 PM
(09-16-2018, 07:42 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ](09-15-2018, 08:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Tom Cotton wrote a letter to the Ayatollahs while Kerry was negotiating with them. Cotton's letter said they shouldn't trust Kerry because Obama was going to be gone after 2016 regardless. The letter was factual but it's not the right message. New Presidents should honor the commitments of prior Presidents, until circumstances beyond the name of the man in the white house actually change. or else no President will be trusted in international negotiations.
If someone said water was wet, you could literally write a 300 word post arguing that it isn't.
If you aren't a lawyer, you should be.
And all the while blaming Republicans that it isn't while claiming to support them.
09-17-2018, 08:20 AM
(09-16-2018, 07:42 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ](09-15-2018, 08:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Tom Cotton wrote a letter to the Ayatollahs while Kerry was negotiating with them. Cotton's letter said they shouldn't trust Kerry because Obama was going to be gone after 2016 regardless. The letter was factual but it's not the right message. New Presidents should honor the commitments of prior Presidents, until circumstances beyond the name of the man in the white house actually change. or else no President will be trusted in international negotiations.
If someone said water was wet, you could literally write a 300 word post arguing that it isn't.
If you aren't a lawyer, you should be.
If Trump was walking along 5th avenue, pulled a pistol and shot a stranger that was passing by, you would find a way to defend him, using exclamation marks and at least one reference to "libs" or "the left."
(09-16-2018, 08:15 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ](09-16-2018, 07:42 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]If someone said water was wet, you could literally write a 300 word post arguing that it isn't.
If you aren't a lawyer, you should be.
And all the while blaming Republicans that it isn't while claiming to support them.
If there were any liberals or Democrats on this board making unreasonable points I'd argue with them too.
09-17-2018, 08:27 AM
(09-17-2018, 08:20 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]That all depends who he shot. Was it a criminal coming at him with a gun? Besides, POTUS doesn't carry. That is why he has SS detail.(09-16-2018, 07:42 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]If someone said water was wet, you could literally write a 300 word post arguing that it isn't.
If you aren't a lawyer, you should be.
If Trump was walking along 5th avenue, pulled a pistol and shot a stranger that was passing by, you would find a way to defend him, using exclamation marks and at least one reference to "libs" or "the left."
You literally compared Tom Fitton to a former Secretary of State making power plays behind the country's back.
09-17-2018, 08:29 AM
(09-17-2018, 08:20 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]If there were any liberals or Democrats on this board making unreasonable points I'd argue with them too.
Good one there Southpaw!
09-17-2018, 01:27 PM
I disagree. Strongly.
So this thing just deleted the quote that i was referencing. I disagree with Mike saying that all Presidents should honor their predecessors agreements.
(09-17-2018, 01:27 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree. Strongly.
So this thing just deleted the quote that i was referencing. I disagree with Mike saying that all Presidents should honor their predecessors agreements.
09-17-2018, 02:07 PM
(09-17-2018, 01:27 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree. Strongly.
(09-17-2018, 01:27 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree. Strongly.
So this thing just deleted the quote that i was referencing. I disagree with Mike saying that all Presidents should honor their predecessors agreements.
Yep, this President was specifically elected to undo Obama's agreements.
09-18-2018, 07:51 PM
(09-15-2018, 08:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ](09-15-2018, 08:11 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Mike you have gotten so much better but can you do one more favor please? I am searching for what Tom Cotton did but my algorithms are not pulling up anything. Please provide a link when you reference things.
Tom Cotton wrote a letter to the Ayatollahs while Kerry was negotiating with them. Cotton's letter said they shouldn't trust Kerry because Obama was going to be gone after 2016 regardless. The letter was factual but it's not the right message. New Presidents should honor the commitments of prior Presidents, until circumstances beyond the name of the man in the white house actually change. or else no President will be trusted in international negotiations.
Thanks