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Edit: typing on phones sucks. Sorry for the typos below.

(11-07-2018, 08:05 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Some thoughts:

1. History is history for the reason. No reasonable person expected the GOP to retain control of the house.
2. Looks like we can always count on the panhandle to keep Florida sane.
3. Not sure what is happening to Duval. I will just chalk it up to DeSantis not being the greatest candidate.
4. Real voters don't care what celebrities think. Abrams got smoked like ham and she still refuses to concede.
5. Gridlock in DC for the next two years
6. Will the democrats choose to legislate or investigate? I just don't think they can help themselves. Their choice is crucial for their changes in 2020.
7. Beto raised 70M and still lost. Democrats will still chalk it up as a "win".
8. GOP managed to pick up seats in the senate while getting rid of some never-Trumpers. This is officially Trump's GOP now.
9. I have a sneaky suspicion Trump will nominate his third SCOTUS in this next election cycle.
10. Will Pelosi be speaker or will they let a more sane person do it?
11. Does Mad Maxine being in charge of Wall Street frighten anyone?  Imagine the kickbacks her corrupt soul will be getting to just "be invisible"
10. Will the dems bend to what their base wants and impeach Trump? Will they impeach Kavanaugh? Can they be this dumb? Even I don't think they can.

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(11-06-2018, 08:41 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]So is the “bigger than a hurricane” threat winning?

A Nor'easter pushed this one off shore, so Florida managed to avoid any damage at all. The fear is that global warming will be sending a lot more of these our way, so getting hit by one is essentially inevitable.

I actually agree with a lot of this. Point by point below because I can:

1. Agreed
2. The Democrats ran a terrible candidate. I think a better candidate would have won given how weak DeSantis is. Wouldn't be shocked if he was another one-term governor given how much of his platform was tied directly to Trump.
3. I agree. DeSantis was a very weak candidate. TBQH, had Adam Putnam cleared the primary, I think he would have put a wig on Gillum and mopped the for with him.
4. Regarding Abrams, I continue to question the legitimacy of that election. Having a candidate in the election running the show is an indefensible conflict of interest, as demonstrated by the baseless allegations days before the election that the Democratic party was attempting to hack the voting system. Many on this board will look at that and say, "Will of course they did, Dems always cheat," but I'm looking at it asking again, why was a participant in the election allowed to control it and make those statements days before the final votes were cast?
5. Democrats can play this one of two ways. They can work with Trump on some things, but mostly pass progressive legislation that Trump won't sign, then use that unwillingness to work with them against Trump in 2020. Or they can immediately go into all kinds of hearings and investigations, then start making noise about impeachment long before Mueller releases his final report. Option one is the best part to victory in 2020. Democrats in Congress are stupid, so they'll default to option 2.
6. See above
7. In many ways, it is, especially when combined with the house races. Democrats have turned large chunks of Texas (including Houston) blue and mounted a very serious challenge to Ted Cruz. The battle is lost, but the war for Texas has just begun.
8. It's been Trump's GOP since 2016. He's just getting the last major opposition out of the way.
9. I don't know. I think Ginsburg will hold on until 2020 before retiring our walking away. Trump may will survive into a second term, but the Senate map is tougher for the GOP than this year's was. Susan Collins is already all but a goner.
10. I would hope Pelosi is out, and she's kind of acknowledged that her time is limited, but "sane" is another story. The Democratic party needs a face and a message in 2020, and despite my hopes for Tulsi Gabbard to be that centrist face, it's probably going to be a far leftist that gets the job.
11. The thought of Maxine Waters being allowed anywhere near the treasury should scare anyone.
10 (the second). I doubt they go after Kavanaugh at this point, unless something new comes up from someone not named Michael Avenatti. Trump is a different story. If they go after him and fail, kiss 2020 goodbye. If there's enough evidence there that Chuck Grassley becomes a 21st century Howard Baker, then that's a different story.

And after 3 hurricanes in 3 years in the Panhandle, global warming is real and it sucks.

(11-07-2018, 10:04 AM)Adam2012 Wrote: [ -> ]These results do not bode well for Donald and the Republicans in 2020.

In Florida The Lap Dog barely, barely won even though he was attached at the hip to Donald and Fox News. Against a black man that no one outside of Tallahassee had even heard of six months ago. Who was called a Socialist by the right-wing press. Not good.

In Texas, the man no one likes, Ted Cruz - the man who sold his soul and kissed Donald's [BLEEP] - barely, barely won to a man no one had even heard of six months ago. In red state Texas. No good.

A black woman - let me say that again: a black woman - almost won in Georgia. In Georgia. The Richard Nixon/ George Wallace/ Donald Trump southern strategy is starting to fall apart.

In 2020 the Senate map is not favorable to Republicans, just as the map was not favorable to Dems in 2018. Expect to see a number of elderly Repubs retire before their re-election race.

It breaks my heart to know punk Jim Jordan, Devin Nunes and the other yahoos will now reap what they sowed. Hope they enjoy reading Donald's tax returns. Chaos and confusion will reign.

Cruz isn't very popular in Texas though.  He routinely polls 10-15% behind Gov Abbott.  If Texas had an Abbott like person running for Senate, Beto would have been obliterated.  

Georgia isn't officially done.  A few last minute ballots may come in and push Kemp under 50% triggering a runoff.  It's likely he would win that but it's close.  But you seem surprised a black woman almost won.  I'm not.  That would fair much better with the left than a liberal white guy.  Especially in a place like Georgia.

(11-07-2018, 10:19 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]Edit: typing on phones sucks. Sorry for the typos below.

(11-07-2018, 08:05 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Some thoughts:

1. History is history for the reason. No reasonable person expected the GOP to retain control of the house.
2. Looks like we can always count on the panhandle to keep Florida sane.
3. Not sure what is happening to Duval. I will just chalk it up to DeSantis not being the greatest candidate.
4. Real voters don't care what celebrities think. Abrams got smoked like ham and she still refuses to concede.
5. Gridlock in DC for the next two years
6. Will the democrats choose to legislate or investigate? I just don't think they can help themselves. Their choice is crucial for their changes in 2020.
7. Beto raised 70M and still lost. Democrats will still chalk it up as a "win".
8. GOP managed to pick up seats in the senate while getting rid of some never-Trumpers. This is officially Trump's GOP now.
9. I have a sneaky suspicion Trump will nominate his third SCOTUS in this next election cycle.
10. Will Pelosi be speaker or will they let a more sane person do it?
11. Does Mad Maxine being in charge of Wall Street frighten anyone?  Imagine the kickbacks her corrupt soul will be getting to just "be invisible"
10. Will the dems bend to what their base wants and impeach Trump? Will they impeach Kavanaugh? Can they be this dumb? Even I don't think they can.

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A Nor'easter pushed this one off shore, so Florida managed to avoid any damage at all. The fear is that global warming will be sending a lot more of these our way, so getting hit by one is essentially inevitable.

I actually agree with a lot of this. Point by point below because I can:

1. Agreed
2. The Democrats ran a terrible candidate. I think a better candidate would have won given how weak DeSantis is. Wouldn't be shocked if he was another one-term governor given how much of his platform was tied directly to Trump.
3. I agree. DeSantis was a very weak candidate. TBQH, had Adam Putnam cleared the primary, I think he would have put a wig on Gillum and mopped the for with him.
4. Regarding Abrams, I continue to question the legitimacy of that election. Having a candidate in the election running the show is an indefensible conflict of interest, as demonstrated by the baseless allegations days before the election that the Democratic party was attempting to hack the voting system. Many on this board will look at that and say, "Will of course they did, Dems always cheat," but I'm looking at it asking again, why was a participant in the election allowed to control it and make those statements days before the final votes were cast?
5. Democrats can play this one of two ways. They can work with Trump on some things, but mostly pass progressive legislation that Trump won't sign, then use that unwillingness to work with them against Trump in 2020. Or they can immediately go into all kinds of hearings and investigations, then start making noise about impeachment long before Mueller releases his final report. Option one is the best part to victory in 2020. Democrats in Congress are stupid, so they'll default to option 2.
6. See above
7. In many ways, it is, especially when combined with the house races. Democrats have turned large chunks of Texas (including Houston) blue and mounted a very serious challenge to Ted Cruz. The battle is lost, but the war for Texas has just begun.
8. It's been Trump's GOP since 2016. He's just getting the last major opposition out of the way.
9. I don't know. I think Ginsburg will hold on until 2020 before retiring our walking away. Trump may will survive into a second term, but the Senate map is tougher for the GOP than this year's was. Susan Collins is already all but a goner.
10. I would hope Pelosi is out, and she's kind of acknowledged that her time is limited, but "sane" is another story. The Democratic party needs a face and a message in 2020, and despite my hopes for Tulsi Gabbard to be that centrist face, it's probably going to be a far leftist that gets the job.
11. The thought of Maxine Waters being allowed anywhere near the treasury should scare anyone.
10 (the second). I doubt they go after Kavanaugh at this point, unless something new comes up from someone not named Michael Avenatti. Trump is a different story. If they go after him and fail, kiss 2020 goodbye. If there's enough evidence there that Chuck Grassley becomes a 21st century Howard Baker, then that's a different story.

And after 3 hurricanes in 3 years in the Panhandle, global warming is real and it sucks.

The Texas thing is interesting and it also got me thinking about Arizona. The Arizona senate race shouldn't have even been close. Senema is insane.

Arizona especially is where people are relocating to from California because they can no longer afford to live there. The astonishing this is, they are still voting for the same type of candidates that made their old state un-affordable in the first place. Like cockroaches spreading their disease.

(11-07-2018, 10:31 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 10:19 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]Edit: typing on phones sucks. Sorry for the typos below.


I actually agree with a lot of this. Point by point below because I can:

1. Agreed
2. The Democrats ran a terrible candidate. I think a better candidate would have won given how weak DeSantis is. Wouldn't be shocked if he was another one-term governor given how much of his platform was tied directly to Trump.
3. I agree. DeSantis was a very weak candidate. TBQH, had Adam Putnam cleared the primary, I think he would have put a wig on Gillum and mopped the for with him.
4. Regarding Abrams, I continue to question the legitimacy of that election. Having a candidate in the election running the show is an indefensible conflict of interest, as demonstrated by the baseless allegations days before the election that the Democratic party was attempting to hack the voting system. Many on this board will look at that and say, "Will of course they did, Dems always cheat," but I'm looking at it asking again, why was a participant in the election allowed to control it and make those statements days before the final votes were cast?
5. Democrats can play this one of two ways. They can work with Trump on some things, but mostly pass progressive legislation that Trump won't sign, then use that unwillingness to work with them against Trump in 2020. Or they can immediately go into all kinds of hearings and investigations, then start making noise about impeachment long before Mueller releases his final report. Option one is the best part to victory in 2020. Democrats in Congress are stupid, so they'll default to option 2.
6. See above
7. In many ways, it is, especially when combined with the house races. Democrats have turned large chunks of Texas (including Houston) blue and mounted a very serious challenge to Ted Cruz. The battle is lost, but the war for Texas has just begun.
8. It's been Trump's GOP since 2016. He's just getting the last major opposition out of the way.
9. I don't know. I think Ginsburg will hold on until 2020 before retiring our walking away. Trump may will survive into a second term, but the Senate map is tougher for the GOP than this year's was. Susan Collins is already all but a goner.
10. I would hope Pelosi is out, and she's kind of acknowledged that her time is limited, but "sane" is another story. The Democratic party needs a face and a message in 2020, and despite my hopes for Tulsi Gabbard to be that centrist face, it's probably going to be a far leftist that gets the job.
11. The thought of Maxine Waters being allowed anywhere near the treasury should scare anyone.
10 (the second). I doubt they go after Kavanaugh at this point, unless something new comes up from someone not named Michael Avenatti. Trump is a different story. If they go after him and fail, kiss 2020 goodbye. If there's enough evidence there that Chuck Grassley becomes a 21st century Howard Baker, then that's a different story.

And after 3 hurricanes in 3 years in the Panhandle, global warming is real and it sucks.

The Texas thing is interesting and it also got me thinking about Arizona. The Arizona senate race shouldn't have even been close. Senema is insane.

Arizona especially is where people are relocating to from California because they can no longer afford to live there. The astonishing this is, they are still voting for the same type of candidates that made their old state un-affordable in the first place. Like cockroaches spreading their disease.

The policies put forward by Democrats at the national level have nothing to do with why California has unaffordable housing prices.
Their local Democrats have been putting forward rent control in many places, and that makes matters worse for newcomers, while delaying the inevitable for poorer residents, but it's not the main reason.
The main reasons California is so unaffordable are Prop 13 and local zoning, and those are very much bipartisan issues.

(11-07-2018, 10:31 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 10:19 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]Edit: typing on phones sucks. Sorry for the typos below.


I actually agree with a lot of this. Point by point below because I can:

1. Agreed
2. The Democrats ran a terrible candidate. I think a better candidate would have won given how weak DeSantis is. Wouldn't be shocked if he was another one-term governor given how much of his platform was tied directly to Trump.
3. I agree. DeSantis was a very weak candidate. TBQH, had Adam Putnam cleared the primary, I think he would have put a wig on Gillum and mopped the for with him.
4. Regarding Abrams, I continue to question the legitimacy of that election. Having a candidate in the election running the show is an indefensible conflict of interest, as demonstrated by the baseless allegations days before the election that the Democratic party was attempting to hack the voting system. Many on this board will look at that and say, "Will of course they did, Dems always cheat," but I'm looking at it asking again, why was a participant in the election allowed to control it and make those statements days before the final votes were cast?
5. Democrats can play this one of two ways. They can work with Trump on some things, but mostly pass progressive legislation that Trump won't sign, then use that unwillingness to work with them against Trump in 2020. Or they can immediately go into all kinds of hearings and investigations, then start making noise about impeachment long before Mueller releases his final report. Option one is the best part to victory in 2020. Democrats in Congress are stupid, so they'll default to option 2.
6. See above
7. In many ways, it is, especially when combined with the house races. Democrats have turned large chunks of Texas (including Houston) blue and mounted a very serious challenge to Ted Cruz. The battle is lost, but the war for Texas has just begun.
8. It's been Trump's GOP since 2016. He's just getting the last major opposition out of the way.
9. I don't know. I think Ginsburg will hold on until 2020 before retiring our walking away. Trump may will survive into a second term, but the Senate map is tougher for the GOP than this year's was. Susan Collins is already all but a goner.
10. I would hope Pelosi is out, and she's kind of acknowledged that her time is limited, but "sane" is another story. The Democratic party needs a face and a message in 2020, and despite my hopes for Tulsi Gabbard to be that centrist face, it's probably going to be a far leftist that gets the job.
11. The thought of Maxine Waters being allowed anywhere near the treasury should scare anyone.
10 (the second). I doubt they go after Kavanaugh at this point, unless something new comes up from someone not named Michael Avenatti. Trump is a different story. If they go after him and fail, kiss 2020 goodbye. If there's enough evidence there that Chuck Grassley becomes a 21st century Howard Baker, then that's a different story.

And after 3 hurricanes in 3 years in the Panhandle, global warming is real and it sucks.

The Texas thing is interesting and it also got me thinking about Arizona. The Arizona senate race shouldn't have even been close. Senema is insane.

Arizona especially is where people are relocating to from California because they can no longer afford to live there. The astonishing this is, they are still voting for the same type of candidates that made their old state un-affordable in the first place. Like cockroaches spreading their disease.

What's really fun to note is that if Synema loses, it's going to be because of a Green candidate pulling away votes. The Green Party candidate got well more than enough votes to cover the likely margin of victory, and Green votes almost never break Republican in a runoff.

Those of us in Florida in 2000 will appreciate the irony. Also, those of us who lived in Arizona will be amazed to hear that there's anything green in that state aside from crayons.

(11-07-2018, 10:04 AM)Adam2012 Wrote: [ -> ]These results do not bode well for Donald and the Republicans in 2020.

In Florida The Lap Dog barely, barely won even though he was attached at the hip to Donald and Fox News. Against a black man that no one outside of Tallahassee had even heard of six months ago. Who was called a Socialist by the right-wing press. Not good.

In Texas, the man no one likes, Ted Cruz - the man who sold his soul and kissed Donald's [BLEEP] - barely, barely won to a man no one had even heard of six months ago. In red state Texas. No good.

A black woman - let me say that again: a black woman - almost won in Georgia. In Georgia. The Richard Nixon/ George Wallace/ Donald Trump southern strategy is starting to fall apart.

In 2020 the Senate map is not favorable to Republicans, just as the map was not favorable to Dems in 2018. Expect to see a number of elderly Repubs retire before their re-election race.

It breaks my heart to know punk Jim Jordan, Devin Nunes and the other yahoos will now reap what they sowed. Hope they enjoy reading Donald's tax returns. Chaos and confusion will reign.

Nixon/Wallace?  What are u talking about?  How in the check did the dems pull off this historical slight of hand where we get settled with this guy?  

Nixon wrote a piece about Wallace and the like squeezing the last vestiges of injustice for political gain integrated schools and enacted affirmative action.  

This idea that the democrats get a pass for, I don't know, slavery the confederacy Jim Crow segregation and eugenics, but the right for some reason gets blamed for some fictitious "southern strategy" is just asinine.  

The South turned red as it became more economically prosperous and the old guard died off coupled with the advent of modern secular progressivism and abortion.

(11-07-2018, 10:09 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 10:04 AM)Adam2012 Wrote: [ -> ]These results do not bode well for Donald and the Republicans in 2020.

In Florida The Lap Dog barely, barely won even though he was attached at the hip to Donald and Fox News. Against a black man that no one outside of Tallahassee had even heard of six months ago. Who was called a Socialist by the right-wing press. Not good.

In Texas, the man no one likes, Ted Cruz - the man who sold his soul and kissed Donald's [BLEEP] - barely, barely won to a man no one had even heard of six months ago. In red state Texas. No good.

A black woman - let me say that again: a black woman - almost won in Georgia. In Georgia. The Richard Nixon/ George Wallace/ Donald Trump southern strategy is starting to fall apart.

In 2020 the Senate map is not favorable to Republicans, just as the map was not favorable to Dems in 2018. Expect to see a number of elderly Repubs retire before their re-election race.

It breaks my heart to know punk Jim Jordan, Devin Nunes and the other yahoos will now reap what they sowed. Hope they enjoy reading Donald's tax returns. Chaos and confusion will reign.

Beto had 70M pumped into his campaign and still got smoked.

The "Black woman" had the backing of Oprah and Obama and still got smoked

DeSantis was a weak candidate and still won

You are so delusional it is scary.

You are very Trumpian in avoiding facts and reality.

Republicans didn't spend money on their campaigns? I must have missed that headline. How much of his own (stolen) money did Rick Scott spend? 

Beto got "smoked"? A good Trumpian lie. Barely losing to an incumbent in a red state. Smoked - hahahaha.

The "black woman" got "smoked"? Can you read numbers? If not, have someone help you. Losing to the Chief of Voter Suppression in a red state is smoked? Hahaha.

Keep up the Donald Delusion and 2020 will be real interesting.

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(11-07-2018, 11:11 AM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 10:04 AM)Adam2012 Wrote: [ -> ]These results do not bode well for Donald and the Republicans in 2020.

In Florida The Lap Dog barely, barely won even though he was attached at the hip to Donald and Fox News. Against a black man that no one outside of Tallahassee had even heard of six months ago. Who was called a Socialist by the right-wing press. Not good.

In Texas, the man no one likes, Ted Cruz - the man who sold his soul and kissed Donald's [BLEEP] - barely, barely won to a man no one had even heard of six months ago. In red state Texas. No good.

A black woman - let me say that again: a black woman - almost won in Georgia. In Georgia. The Richard Nixon/ George Wallace/ Donald Trump southern strategy is starting to fall apart.

In 2020 the Senate map is not favorable to Republicans, just as the map was not favorable to Dems in 2018. Expect to see a number of elderly Repubs retire before their re-election race.

It breaks my heart to know punk Jim Jordan, Devin Nunes and the other yahoos will now reap what they sowed. Hope they enjoy reading Donald's tax returns. Chaos and confusion will reign.

Nixon/Wallace?  What are u talking about?  How in the check did the dems pull off this historical slight of hand where we get settled with this guy?  

Nixon wrote a piece about Wallace and the like squeezing the last vestiges of injustice for political gain integrated schools and enacted affirmative action.  

This idea that the democrats get a pass for, I don't know, slavery the confederacy Jim Crow segregation and eugenics, but the right for some reason gets blamed for some fictitious "southern strategy" is just asinine.  

The South turned red as it became more economically prosperous and the old guard died off coupled with the advent of modern secular progressivism and abortion.

Do you really not know about the Southern Strategy or are you just pretending?

Please do not home school your children.

(11-07-2018, 09:49 AM)Adam2012 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 09:23 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]I'll chalk Duval up to voter fraud.

Really? I thought that was evened out by the voter suppression. Although it wasn't nearly as obvious as Georgia.

I have to admit, this really made me laugh.

Trump had the most professional press conference I have seen in a long time. He seems very relaxed despite losing the house.

(11-07-2018, 02:27 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]Trump had the most professional press conference I have seen in a long time. He seems very relaxed despite losing the house.

But no comment about your boy Jim Acosta shoving a woman out of the way to keep the microphone?

Seriously, you want to know why this country is so divided? The media in this presser is exhibit A. If you disagree, you are part of the problem.

One woman even insinuated that the long lines in Georgia are to blame for Oprah's girl losing. Seriously? If you want the feds to get involved in state level voting, you better be careful what you wish for.

These press conferences are professional troll jobs. They don't care about getting any real information out of them.

(11-07-2018, 02:28 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 02:27 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]Trump had the most professional press conference I have seen in a long time. He seems very relaxed despite losing the house.

But no comment about your boy Jim Acosta shoving a woman out of the way to keep the microphone?

Seriously, you want to know why this country is so divided? The media in this presser is exhibit A. If you disagree, you are part of the problem.

One woman even insinuated that the long lines in Georgia are to blame for Oprah's girl losing. Seriously? If you want the feds to get involved in state level voting, you better be careful what you wish for.

Jim did not shove her, stop making up lies. She tried to take the mic and he simply said excuse me. 

The country is divided based upon the president actions. He refused to denounce white nationalist directly. 

The woman was asking more about issues with voting machines not working, she didn’t contribute it Abrams loss. And the problem was wide spread over the country.

(11-07-2018, 02:27 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]Trump had the most professional press conference I have seen in a long time. He seems very relaxed despite losing the house.

It's easy to be relaxed when your reelection was guaranteed a full 24 month in advance.

(11-07-2018, 02:39 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 02:28 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]But no comment about your boy Jim Acosta shoving a woman out of the way to keep the microphone?

Seriously, you want to know why this country is so divided? The media in this presser is exhibit A. If you disagree, you are part of the problem.

One woman even insinuated that the long lines in Georgia are to blame for Oprah's girl losing. Seriously? If you want the feds to get involved in state level voting, you better be careful what you wish for.

Jim did not shove her, stop making up lies. She tried to take the mic and he simply said excuse me. 

The country is divided based upon the president actions. He refused to denounce white nationalist directly. 

The woman was asking more about issues with voting machines not working, she didn’t contribute it Abrams loss. And the problem was wide spread over the country.

How many times does Trump need to tell people what his view of nationalism is? The fake new just likes to add the "white" in front of it. Trump also makes a fantastic point. Look at his approval among African Americans. That either means they are the dumbest people on the planet OR perhaps, just maybe they know the media is full of crap?

(11-07-2018, 02:39 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 02:28 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]But no comment about your boy Jim Acosta shoving a woman out of the way to keep the microphone?

Seriously, you want to know why this country is so divided? The media in this presser is exhibit A. If you disagree, you are part of the problem.

One woman even insinuated that the long lines in Georgia are to blame for Oprah's girl losing. Seriously? If you want the feds to get involved in state level voting, you better be careful what you wish for.

Jim did not shove her, stop making up lies. She tried to take the mic and he simply said excuse me. 

The country is divided based upon the president actions. He refused to denounce white nationalist directly. 

The woman was asking more about issues with voting machines not working, she didn’t contribute it Abrams loss. And the problem was wide spread over the country.

The country was divided long before Trump got here. Obama's election, Bush v Gore, Reagan, Nixon, JBJ...this country has been divided for decades now. Trump just causes the left to lose their [BLEEP] in the streets where everyone can see it.

(11-07-2018, 02:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 02:39 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]Jim did not shove her, stop making up lies. She tried to take the mic and he simply said excuse me. 

The country is divided based upon the president actions. He refused to denounce white nationalist directly. 

The woman was asking more about issues with voting machines not working, she didn’t contribute it Abrams loss. And the problem was wide spread over the country.

The country was divided long before Trump got here. Obama's election, Bush v Gore, Reagan, Nixon, JBJ...this country has been divided for decades now. Trump just causes the left to lose their [BLEEP] in the streets where everyone can see it.

Yep, exactly.

Side note, I love Trump pumping up Pelosi as speaker knowing there is a divide in their party about wanting her to be speaker. He is a smart man.

(11-07-2018, 01:33 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: [ -> ]You are very Trumpian in avoiding facts and reality.

Republicans didn't spend money on their campaigns? I must have missed that headline. How much of his own (stolen) money did Rick Scott spend? 

Beto got "smoked"? A good Trumpian lie. Barely losing to an incumbent in a red state. Smoked - hahahaha.

The "black woman" got "smoked"? Can you read numbers? If not, have someone help you. Losing to the Chief of Voter Suppression in a red state is smoked? Hahaha.

Keep up the Donald Delusion and 2020 will be real interesting.

He didn't say they didn't spend a lot of money. He's saying that Democrats flooded the races with a lot of money and still lost.

Cruz didn't win by a large margin because he's not as popular after running against Trump. If you go down the line, Republicans won by an average of 8.5% in Texas. The freaking land commissioner got more votes than Cruz did. The 2.6% lead says more about Cruz's popularity than it does about Texas turning blue.  I'd bet if Abbott was on the ballot for Senator than it wouldn't even have been close.

Those claims of voter suppression are desperate attempts to justify a runoff and to motivate the minority community. He's following state and federal guidelines. He's not picking-and-choosing which groups to dismiss. The registration forms simply don't meet requirements. 

(11-07-2018, 02:39 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]Jim did not shove her, stop making up lies. She tried to take the mic and he simply said excuse me. 

The country is divided based upon the president actions. He refused to denounce white nationalist directly. 

The woman was asking more about issues with voting machines not working, she didn’t contribute it Abrams loss. And the problem was wide spread over the country.

He pushed her arm away. He didn't simply say "excuse me".  

Trump has denounced racism and bigotry. You guys just want him to label everything white people do as racist and those that do it as white nationalists, so when he doesn't do that, you claim he isn't denouncing it.

(11-07-2018, 06:02 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 01:33 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: [ -> ]You are very Trumpian in avoiding facts and reality.

Republicans didn't spend money on their campaigns? I must have missed that headline. How much of his own (stolen) money did Rick Scott spend? 

Beto got "smoked"? A good Trumpian lie. Barely losing to an incumbent in a red state. Smoked - hahahaha.

The "black woman" got "smoked"? Can you read numbers? If not, have someone help you. Losing to the Chief of Voter Suppression in a red state is smoked? Hahaha.

Keep up the Donald Delusion and 2020 will be real interesting.

He didn't say they didn't spend a lot of money. He's saying that Democrats flooded the races with a lot of money and still lost.

Cruz didn't win by a large margin because he's not as popular after running against Trump. If you go down the line, Republicans won by an average of 8.5% in Texas. The freaking land commissioner got more votes than Cruz did. The 2.6% lead says more about Cruz's popularity than it does about Texas turning blue.  I'd bet if Abbott was on the ballot for Senator than it wouldn't even have been close.

Those claims of voter suppression are desperate attempts to justify a runoff and to motivate the minority community. He's following state and federal guidelines. He's not picking-and-choosing which groups to dismiss. The registration forms simply don't meet requirements. 

(11-07-2018, 02:39 PM)Jamies_fried_chicken Wrote: [ -> ]Jim did not shove her, stop making up lies. She tried to take the mic and he simply said excuse me. 

The country is divided based upon the president actions. He refused to denounce white nationalist directly. 

The woman was asking more about issues with voting machines not working, she didn’t contribute it Abrams loss. And the problem was wide spread over the country.

He pushed her arm away. He didn't simply say "excuse me".  

Trump has denounced racism and bigotry. You guys just want him to label everything white people do as racist and those that do it as white nationalists, so when he doesn't do that, you claim he isn't denouncing it.

What'ta ya mean "you guys", we don't know what Xamies wants to be known as.

(11-07-2018, 01:33 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2018, 10:09 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Beto had 70M pumped into his campaign and still got smoked.

The "Black woman" had the backing of Oprah and Obama and still got smoked

DeSantis was a weak candidate and still won

You are so delusional it is scary.

You are very Trumpian in avoiding facts and reality.

Republicans didn't spend money on their campaigns? I must have missed that headline. How much of his own (stolen) money did Rick Scott spend? 

Beto got "smoked"? A good Trumpian lie. Barely losing to an incumbent in a red state. Smoked - hahahaha.

The "black woman" got "smoked"? Can you read numbers? If not, have someone help you. Losing to the Chief of Voter Suppression in a red state is smoked? Hahaha.

Keep up the Donald Delusion and 2020 will be real interesting.

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(11-07-2018, 11:11 AM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]Nixon/Wallace?  What are u talking about?  How in the check did the dems pull off this historical slight of hand where we get settled with this guy?  

Nixon wrote a piece about Wallace and the like squeezing the last vestiges of injustice for political gain integrated schools and enacted affirmative action.  

This idea that the democrats get a pass for, I don't know, slavery the confederacy Jim Crow segregation and eugenics, but the right for some reason gets blamed for some fictitious "southern strategy" is just asinine.  

The South turned red as it became more economically prosperous and the old guard died off coupled with the advent of modern secular progressivism and abortion.

Do you really not know about the Southern Strategy or are you just pretending?

Please do not home school your children.

I do u don't.

The only saving grace from this election is we managed to keep a socialist out of the governor's mansion.  The recount should confirm that we kept another swamp leftist out of the Senate.  I was actually pretty concerned with this election thinking that the "me too" and "give me more free stuff" crowd might have pulled it off.

I personally wasn't crazy about DeSantis for governor, but the alternative was MUCH worse.

As far as the amendments that were on the ballot, I'm disappointed.  The only ones that should have passed are 1 and 2.  All others should have been rejected but they weren't by the low information voter crowd.

(11-07-2018, 07:57 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]The only saving grace from this election is we managed to keep a socialist out of the governor's mansion.  The recount should confirm that we kept another swamp leftist out of the Senate.  I was actually pretty concerned with this election thinking that the "me too" and "give me more free stuff" crowd might have pulled it off.

I personally wasn't crazy about DeSantis for governor, but the alternative was MUCH worse.

As far as the amendments that were on the ballot, I'm disappointed.  The only ones that should have passed are 1 and 2.  All others should have been rejected but they weren't by the low information voter crowd.

Amendment 4 should've been called the "Democratic Voter Enfranchisement Amendment."