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(11-21-2018, 03:16 PM)hb1148 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-21-2018, 11:14 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Only some of those contributing factors were in the teams control (although the jags did have multiple penalties caused directly by not knowing the rules).  

Right , so how many times did you see holding not called on either side and how many calls did the refs not call against us? You don't have to give a specific number, just any examples of plays the refs didn't ding is for when they could have

Holding is subjective and could be called on any particular play. Because one side gets the benefit (or not) of penalties overall doesn't mean every call goes against them, it can mean two or three in the course of a game that have an influence on the outcome because they stop a drive that should have continued or allow a first down that shouldn't have been.  Generally speaking, these things even out so the outcome of a game isn't influenced.  In this game in particular though, officiating did have an influence. Even knowing nothing else about what happened, statistically speaking you shouldn't ever see a penalty disparity like this:

Pitt: 3 for 15
Jaguars: 11 for 111

And 6 of the squeelers 19 first downs came from penalty. Jags ineffectiveness and conservative play calling where contributing factors too but I'm not sure the Jags don't win if the officiating had been just as one sided the other way.

Thats exactly what I've been saying, there are penalties on every play. If you wanna say the refs are against the jags then you should also consider all the calls that the Jaguars got away with. For instance Yannick could have easily been called for a rough the passer on one of his sacks but wasn't. That resulted in a 3rd and 18 for the steelers. Steelers fans were upset with that and also were complaining about watt being held and jalen + bouye holding too. Its almost like fans generally think refs are trying to screw them over.

I don't think anyone has said officiating has no influence. Just that it doesn't mean much considering the reason we lost was our own play. Jags ineffectiveness and conservative play calling weren't just contributing factors, they were in fact the main factors that resulted in the loss. The same way against the pats the main reason we lost was our conservative playcalling and ineffectiveness in the 2nd half.

(11-20-2018, 08:51 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2018, 09:36 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]The NFL is not a sports league, they are an entertainment venue and they reserve the right to alter games for increased ratings or entertainment value.

It’s not that far out there. NBA refs got caught trying to fix games in the 90s

They testified to the Supreme Court that they are an entertainment venue. The ruling in the Spygate lawsuit brought by a Jets fan makes it clear that there is no expectation of a fair or impartial outcome, even for a fan paying to attend the game. There is only the expectation that a game will be played.

http://thefixisin.net/theproof.html

(11-21-2018, 07:58 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:51 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]It’s not that far out there. NBA refs got caught trying to fix games in the 90s

They testified to the Supreme Court that they are an entertainment venue.  The ruling in the Spygate lawsuit brought by a Jets fan makes it clear that there is no expectation of a fair or impartial outcome, even for a fan paying to attend the game.  There is only the expectation that a game will be played.

http://thefixisin.net/theproof.html

This is no secret. Again, the team decides to play against the grain. You can't. You must conform. Jags stuck in 1970's run game and defense.... it's a joke. We will get penalities when we run against the league. Team has no brains at all, been saying we run a HS/archaic offense since last season. Such a joke.