(12-24-2018, 09:49 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2018, 03:51 AM)archer56 Wrote: [ -> ]What if they actually embracedsed his run centric style and did what the ravens are doing with bb5. All season before he was benched i wished he would actually keep the ball and run but it almost looked like he was told never to pull it and the defensed never honoured blake. This last game he actually pulled it and the dolphins didnt expect it at all.
Plus we will see BB5 with molinovich as OC for one game if he starts next sunday, something we havent seen yet.
In all honesty, I'd probably find another team to root for. I kinda like the Chargers and I tried to watch them play the Ravens. I just couldn't. I despise watching running QB's. I'm old school. QB's pass and RB's run. Every time the Ravens went on offense, I had to change the channel. Watching QB's running the ball, is about as boring to me as watching golf on television or watching a Youtube channel where someone else is playing a video game. I can't do it. Maybe it has something to do with OCD or something mental, but for me, it's actually painful to watch. It really makes my head hurt.
You probably should stop watching the Jags and switch to the Chargers.
When you buy a bad stock, you take the loss.
(12-23-2018, 05:28 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]I've been trying to point this out for weeks, but it keeps seeming to fall on deaf ears (or would that be blind eyes). The difference between keeping Blake and letting him go and paying for him anyways is merely the cost of a backup qb. You actually can get a decent backup for around $4.5 mil, but if you want a decent backup who can potentially start for an extended time, it's going to cost you more. I actually love the idea of actually letting Blake start next year while drafting a rookie who can take over mid-season when he's ready.
I tend to agree but I think the team put themselves in a bind by essentially saying Blake isn't coming back. I don't think any of these rookies will be good enough to start day 1 and if I'm right that means you need a veteran to begin the season. The money we save by cutting Blake isn't that much and probably wouldn't land us a player better than Blake. So we could find ourselves in this tough spot where we are forced to start a rookie earlier than we want or a veteran on the level of Kessler which signals a wasted season before it even begins. When our best bet may actually be to just keep Bortles, who we know we can win with when the team stays healthy, and groom the rookie until they are ready to start which would hopefully be sooner rather than later. We need to cut Blake after June right? So I guess we could draft our rookie and hopefully bring in a veteran without a guaranteed deal. And then see where we are come June.
Although who knows, maybe they surprise us by dropping big money on a guy like Foles or someone else.
Bortles will start next September, playing on his current contract, unless a rookie beats him out in camp. Then he'll be the backup.
Did someone really say "based on last game" as if 6 passes against an awful defense without their three best defenders somehow stacks up to the other 70+ starts the man has had?
(12-24-2018, 08:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Bortles will start next September, playing on his current contract, unless a rookie beats him out in camp. Then he'll be the backup.
No! I want someone worse who is different. Then when they play I will want someone else who is no better.
(12-23-2018, 10:09 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]But I thought everyone was better than Bortles? Where are all the kessler is better guys gone?
He's an average NFL starter he should be kept until a better option is found.
He's hovering around 27th if you add it all up. That is not average. Usually a high 1st round pick will not be a good presence as a back up. Ship him out.
(12-25-2018, 03:16 AM)Steelers Beaches Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2018, 10:09 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]But I thought everyone was better than Bortles? Where are all the kessler is better guys gone?
He's an average NFL starter he should be kept until a better option is found.
He's hovering around 27th if you add it all up. That is not average. Usually a high 1st round pick will not be a good presence as a back up. Ship him out.
Are you factoring in the horrible line, mediocre receivers and no tight ends? He would likely be much higher if playing for KC. Hence why an average qb like Alex Smith suddenly looked good but was disposed of and done nothing this year at Washington
(12-25-2018, 06:53 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ] (12-25-2018, 03:16 AM)Steelers Beaches Wrote: [ -> ]He's hovering around 27th if you add it all up. That is not average. Usually a high 1st round pick will not be a good presence as a back up. Ship him out.
Are you factoring in the horrible line, mediocre receivers and no tight ends? He would likely be much higher if playing for KC. Hence why an average qb like Alex Smith suddenly looked good but was disposed of and done nothing this year at Washington
You and your silly ideas.
(12-25-2018, 06:53 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Are you factoring in the horrible line, mediocre receivers and no tight ends? He would likely be much higher if playing for KC. Hence why an average qb like Alex Smith suddenly looked good but was disposed of and done nothing this year at Washington
Alex Smith is an average QB that can look good when the situation is excellent, like it was last year. Bortles is a bad QB that can look average when the situation is excellent, like it was last year. And I would 10000% rather have Alex Smith as a mentor for a young QB than Bortles.
(12-25-2018, 11:06 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (12-25-2018, 06:53 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Are you factoring in the horrible line, mediocre receivers and no tight ends? He would likely be much higher if playing for KC. Hence why an average qb like Alex Smith suddenly looked good but was disposed of and done nothing this year at Washington
Alex Smith is an average QB that can look good when the situation is excellent, like it was last year. Bortles is a bad QB that can look average when the situation is excellent, like it was last year. And I would 10000% rather have Alex Smith as a mentor for a young QB than Bortles.
you do realize that Alex smith after his first 5 years was booted out of sf and was worst then Blake is. But yall want him now and want to pay him one of them huge 100m contracts. Most QBs that are good out the gate dont make it after 3 year or so look at jamis and mariota and all the other next big things. a QB that gradually gets better with talent around him is who you should count on. Blake has no talent around him LF to me is more of a bust then Blake is.
No one wants Alex Smith, don't worry.
(12-25-2018, 06:53 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ] (12-25-2018, 03:16 AM)Steelers Beaches Wrote: [ -> ]He's hovering around 27th if you add it all up. That is not average. Usually a high 1st round pick will not be a good presence as a back up. Ship him out.
Are you factoring in the horrible line, mediocre receivers and no tight ends? He would likely be much higher if playing for KC. Hence why an average qb like Alex Smith suddenly looked good but was disposed of and done nothing this year at Washington
Please don't ever compare Alex Smith to Blake Bortles. Thank you.
(12-25-2018, 01:38 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-25-2018, 06:53 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Are you factoring in the horrible line, mediocre receivers and no tight ends? He would likely be much higher if playing for KC. Hence why an average qb like Alex Smith suddenly looked good but was disposed of and done nothing this year at Washington
Please don't ever compare Alex Smith to Blake Bortles. Thank you.
Yes because Smith with two seasons of more than 20 TDs is such a great qb. Who has been replaced both times he's appeared to be playing well and then outperformed by the backup. One of who was kaepernick
(12-24-2018, 11:38 AM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2018, 05:28 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]I've been trying to point this out for weeks, but it keeps seeming to fall on deaf ears (or would that be blind eyes). The difference between keeping Blake and letting him go and paying for him anyways is merely the cost of a backup qb. You actually can get a decent backup for around $4.5 mil, but if you want a decent backup who can potentially start for an extended time, it's going to cost you more. I actually love the idea of actually letting Blake start next year while drafting a rookie who can take over mid-season when he's ready.
I tend to agree but I think the team put themselves in a bind by essentially saying Blake isn't coming back. I don't think any of these rookies will be good enough to start day 1 and if I'm right that means you need a veteran to begin the season. The money we save by cutting Blake isn't that much and probably wouldn't land us a player better than Blake. So we could find ourselves in this tough spot where we are forced to start a rookie earlier than we want or a veteran on the level of Kessler which signals a wasted season before it even begins. When our best bet may actually be to just keep Bortles, who we know we can win with when the team stays healthy, and groom the rookie until they are ready to start which would hopefully be sooner rather than later. We need to cut Blake after June right? So I guess we could draft our rookie and hopefully bring in a veteran without a guaranteed deal. And then see where we are come June.
Although who knows, maybe they surprise us by dropping big money on a guy like Foles or someone else.
I'm fairly certain the Jags never announced any such thing. That was just one of the NFL's media gurus speculating.
(12-25-2018, 11:06 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (12-25-2018, 06:53 AM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]Are you factoring in the horrible line, mediocre receivers and no tight ends? He would likely be much higher if playing for KC. Hence why an average qb like Alex Smith suddenly looked good but was disposed of and done nothing this year at Washington
Alex Smith is an average QB that can look good when the situation is excellent, like it was last year. Bortles is a bad QB that can look average when the situation is excellent, like it was last year. And I would 10000% rather have Alex Smith as a mentor for a young QB than Bortles.
I think I missed something here.
When has the situation been "excellent" for Blake?
I guess the question Im asking is offensively "excellent". Blake has never had a Hill, Watkins, or Kelce.
The best he has had is what, AR15, Hurns, Lee, and Lewis or ASJ. And he has had no where near the level of coaching as Andy Reid.
I keep telling everyone, Alex S. was good once they got a line and some weapons in SF. He only lost his job because he got hurt and he had the that "the city hates him" stigma around him. He really was on a roll that year and Kap finished it off.
(12-23-2018, 05:59 PM)newporttom Wrote: [ -> ]The only reason Blake would re-do his contract is to get more guaranteed money. Jags should not do that. But I have no problem if they make him the bridge QB
Tom gets it!!
'Re-doing' a contract isn't taking the old one to the shredder, and signing a deal for much less. It would be converting remaining contract money into guaranteed bonus that then amortizes over the remainder of the contract years, with minimized salary. We're already worried about cap management, and you all want to guarantee Blake MORE?
The way Blake's contract is structured is presently a benefit. It didn't break the bank, and we can affordably get out of it before it expires
once we have a suitable replacement. I absolutely figure Blake to be the starter next year, unless some team offers a trade for him (stop laughing). If not, we're looking at someone along the lines of Kessler taking the bulk of the snaps. This could be disastrous for any rookie we bring in, as we've seen with the past two early-round QBs we've taken - the competition is not there, and impatience puts the young guy in a position that overwhelms them and stunts their development.
Opposite from Smith, but still excellent. He had one of the best defenses of all time, a good oline, and a good overall run game. He rarely had to try to force anything. Rarely had to play catch up. Basically just don't screw anything up. That's about as good of a situation as you can put a bad QB into, and he managed to elevate himself from bad to almost average.