I agree with most here. Blake is inconsistent, he's inaccurate, he struggles with Basic things a veteran NFL QB should not. That being said he was a few bad calls away from taking the 2017 Jacksonville Jaguars to the Superbowl. People look at the numbers and believe he played really poor in both of those games but the numbers don't tell all. Blake made some big time plays in both the Buffalo and especially the Steelers game.
Fast forward to 2018, and the same Bortles takes the team to a 3-1 start while knocking off the future Superbowl Champs. People forget how bad the defense played in the beginning of the year with huge holes open in the secondary. Despite that this team started 3-1 until the injuries started piling up. By the Start of week 5 the Injuries started piling up.. Fournette(out), Lee (IR), Robinson (IR), Grant(IR),Mickens (IR),O'Shaughnessy(OUT),Paul(IR),Jenkins(IR),Richardson(IR), Wells(IR)
*Note how the tight end group was just obliterated and the offensive tackle position was eradicated. To be honest I believe almost any QB would struggle in the same position.
DeFillipo is a R.P.O (Run-pass-option) specialist that I personally believe Bortles could fit in. People forget that Foles struggled until the Eagles adapted the RPO offense and he excelled. With Bortles athletic ability he could excel as a running threat in this type of offense. I believe the front office when they say it had nothing to do with Foles cause they could visions Bortles as the starter.
If the Jags are serious about competing for a Super Bowl in 2019 season the only 2 real options are Foles or Borltes. I would much rather have Foles but if he hits free agency there maybe a bidding war that we just can't afford. I see no one else available that could help the Jags immediately. Sure we could draft a Qb in the 1st round but he's not coming in as a rookie and competing for a ring.
Jags could use what money and draft stock they have and bolster the Oline, Tight end, and receiver posiiton. I know it's not the popular vote and I cannot say that I feel comfortable with it. Looking at the history of the team, salary cap problems, and lack of options for an immediate contender I could see the Jaguars sticking with Bortles another year.
I don't think this is Devil's Advocate, I think it's the more likely scenario. They signed Bortles for 2 years, and 2 years is what he'll get.
You lost me at "if the jaguars are serious about competing for a SB then Foles and Bortles are the *only* options"
Also the Jaguars defense was very good at the start of the year. Not sure where you got the impression that it wasn't?
We'd have been 8-8 this year with slightly below average QB despite all the injuries we had
The Lions crushed the Pats the week after we did, and the Titans crushed them in early November too. We need to stop pretending like beating the Pats early in the season is a big deal.
(02-24-2019, 12:24 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]You lost me at "if the jaguars are serious about competing for a SB then Foles and Bortles are the *only* options"
Also the Jaguars defense was very good at the start of the year. Not sure where you got the impression that it wasn't?
We'd have been 8-8 this year with slightly below average QB despite all the injuries we had
You must of forgotten how the defense had deep open holes in the secondary early in the season. In fact we should of lost the opener against the giants because there were receivers open deep its just that Eli couldn't get the ball to them.
(02-24-2019, 01:55 AM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019, 12:24 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]You lost me at "if the jaguars are serious about competing for a SB then Foles and Bortles are the *only* options"
Also the Jaguars defense was very good at the start of the year. Not sure where you got the impression that it wasn't?
We'd have been 8-8 this year with slightly below average QB despite all the injuries we had
You must of forgotten how the defense had deep open holes in the secondary early in the season. In fact we should of lost the opener against the giants because there were receivers open deep its just that Eli couldn't get the ball to them.
Over the first 4 weeks of the season the Jaguars defense allowed 14 PPG (1st in the league).
260 yards a game (1st in the league)
30% on 3rd down (4th in the league)
4.5 yards per play (2nd in the league)
(02-24-2019, 12:02 AM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] That being said he was a few bad calls away from taking the 2017 Jacksonville Jaguars to the Superbowl.
Fast forward to 2018, and the same Bortles takes the team to a 3-1 start while knocking off the future Superbowl Champs.
Bortles didn't
take the team anywhere, he was just along for the ride.
Dude, Bortles is gone and that’s the right move..... ByeBye5
Webster’s would have to redefine the definition of insanity if Blake Bortles is back at quarterback in Jacksonville next season.
(02-24-2019, 12:02 AM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] Blake is inconsistent, he's inaccurate, he struggles with Basic things a veteran NFL QB should not.
You could have stopped there ^
And you could have posted this in the other "Bortles: starter?" thread.
BB5 has been up and down. good year 2015, bad year 2016, good year 2017, bad year 2018.So this year sets up to be a good year we still have the Def that can make a solid SB run. Let it play out and maybe we win that B..... Then 2020 blake goes back to bad year we end up picking first in 2021 and we select a Generational QB in Trevor Lawrence. Jags cant screw this up he is a QB who could possibly be not only a Franchise QB but the newest elite QB since Peyton.
(02-24-2019, 02:10 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019, 01:55 AM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]You must of forgotten how the defense had deep open holes in the secondary early in the season. In fact we should of lost the opener against the giants because there were receivers open deep its just that Eli couldn't get the ball to them.
Over the first 4 weeks of the season the Jaguars defense allowed 14 PPG (1st in the league).
260 yards a game (1st in the league)
30% on 3rd down (4th in the league)
4.5 yards per play (2nd in the league)
Get your dumb facts out of here!
We need Blake guys! KEEP HIM FOREVEEEEEEEEER!
I guess the wide open receivers running wide open didn't matter. We flat out got lucky in a couple of those early games. There were receivers that should of walked into the endzone. I remember the hate for Walsh's scheme.
(02-24-2019, 02:30 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]I guess the wide open receivers running wide open didn't matter. We flat out got lucky in a couple of those early games. There were receivers that should of walked into the endzone. I remember the hate for Walsh's scheme.
Lots of shoulda woulda couldas I guess..... but those don’t count so your point is still invalid.
Back on topic. BLAKE NEEDS TO START FROL 2018-2031! IT HAS TO HAPPEN! HE WILL GET BETTER! JUST LOOK AT HIS TRAJECTORY!
(02-24-2019, 12:02 AM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with most here. Blake is inconsistent, he's inaccurate, he struggles with Basic things a veteran NFL QB should not.
If you would have stopped there, I would have responded "Great Post"
(02-24-2019, 02:30 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]I guess the wide open receivers running wide open didn't matter. We flat out got lucky in a couple of those early games. There were receivers that should of walked into the endzone. I remember the hate for Walsh's scheme.
I remember people being upset about the defense despite it playing at a high level. Played great up until the cowboys game
I think he'll get the opportunity to earn the starting job. And when he doesn't, he'll be a high priced backup, even if it's not for the Jags.
(02-24-2019, 03:29 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019, 12:02 AM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with most here. Blake is inconsistent, he's inaccurate, he struggles with Basic things a veteran NFL QB should not.
I you would have stopped there, I would have responded "Great Post"
As far as BB getting just one win away from the Super Bowl....There have been MANY QBs who went even TO the SB who were lousy and even more who made it to conf. championship games and even some who WON a SB. Before we think BB is decent for 2017 consider:
Rex Grossman
Kordell Stewart
Trent Dilfer
Tony Eason
Craig Morton
David Woodley
BB has shown less skill than most of the above.
(02-24-2019, 04:10 PM)Steelers Beaches Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019, 03:29 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I you would have stopped there, I would have responded "Great Post"
As far as BB getting just one win away from the Super Bowl....There have been MANY QBs who went even TO the SB who were lousy and even more who made it to conf. championship games and even some who WON a SB. Before we think BB is decent for 2017 consider:
Rex Grossman
Kordell Stewart
Trent Dilfer
Tony Eason
Craig Morton
David Woodley
BB has shown less skill than most of the above.
Not to mention Mr. butt fumble... Mark Sanchez made it to two AFCCGs. If you have a team(especially a great D that was injury free like we had in 2017) you can mask quite a few problems. BB had some stretches where he put together some good performances, but his issues with mechanics and reads are something that always seem to show up.
(02-24-2019, 04:10 PM)Steelers Beaches Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019, 03:29 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I you would have stopped there, I would have responded "Great Post"
As far as BB getting just one win away from the Super Bowl....There have been MANY QBs who went even TO the SB who were lousy and even more who made it to conf. championship games and even some who WON a SB. Before we think BB is decent for 2017 consider:
Rex Grossman
Kordell Stewart
Trent Dilfer
Tony Eason
Craig Morton
David Woodley
BB has shown less skill than most of the above.
Not to mention Mr. butt fumble... Mark Sanchez made it to two AFCCGs. If you have a team(especially a great D that was injury free like we had in 2017) you can mask quite a few problems. BB had some stretches where he put together some good performances, but his issues with mechanics and reads are something that always seem to show up.
(02-24-2019, 12:16 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think this is Devil's Advocate, I think it's the more likely scenario. They signed Bortles for 2 years, and 2 years is what he'll get.
You honestly think Blake coming back is the most likely scenario?