(03-23-2019, 11:19 AM)LTheeKB Wrote: [ -> ] (03-22-2019, 11:01 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Not really the perfect place for this , but relevant:
https://twitter.com/JoeBanner13/status/1...6579942401
I think this will be a major topic in 2021 when we anticipate a work stoppage / new CBA.
I like this guys counter point
https://twitter.com/PittsburghSport/stat...44864?s=20
Interesting. They will have quite a bit to sort man. This, along with tagging players repeatedly and paying them less than what they’d make on the open market.
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It’s a good counterpoint for sure, and I’d like to see the statistics on how it typically works out for players allowed to walk in favor of a comp pick.
I’m sure for positions that are going through devaluing periods like RB and more recently safety, it doesn’t turn out in the players’ favor.
Jeremy Parnell is still a free agent. Any chance the Jags bring him back? Might be a decent re-signing.
(03-22-2019, 11:01 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Not really the perfect place for this , but relevant:
https://twitter.com/JoeBanner13/status/1...6579942401
I think this will be a major topic in 2021 when we anticipate a work stoppage / new CBA.
I have never ever heard a team justify letting a guy test FA because they valued getting a comp pick in return.
If you want to argue that it punishes teams that do not draft well in the first place and have to glean talent from other teams' rosters at inflated prices, we can do that. But calling out a team that doesn't find a guy worth a fortune is misguided. Part of the comp pick formula is incoming FA signings too, so either the team getting picks is playing it cheap and not acquiring other players, or they have been wise and previously acquired guys to absorb the loss.
(03-23-2019, 11:19 AM)TheeKB Wrote: [ -> ]I like this guys counter point
https://twitter.com/PittsburghSport/stat...44864?s=20
Interesting. They will have quite a bit to sort man. This, along with tagging players repeatedly and paying them less than what they’d make on the open market.
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That second bit for sure should be on the NFLPA radar come CBA time. I'd like to see franchise tagging invoke a penalty on the team, like foregoing their first-round pick in order to tag the player.
(03-25-2019, 12:13 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (03-22-2019, 11:01 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Not really the perfect place for this , but relevant:
https://twitter.com/JoeBanner13/status/1...6579942401
I think this will be a major topic in 2021 when we anticipate a work stoppage / new CBA.
I have never ever heard a team justify letting a guy test FA because they valued getting a comp pick in return.
If you want to argue that it punishes teams that do not draft well in the first place and have to glean talent from other teams' rosters at inflated prices, we can do that. But calling out a team that doesn't find a guy worth a fortune is misguided. Part of the comp pick formula is incoming FA signings too, so either the team getting picks is playing it cheap and not acquiring other players, or they have been wise and previously acquired guys to absorb the loss.
I'm not being clear with my interest in the tweet.
What I'm sympathizing with is the players that do everything right to earn a second contract and are still allowed to walk, not because the team would rather have the comp pick necessarily, but because the team (and league as a whole) recognizes how easy it is to replace talent through the draft at certain positions - and they weigh that over the market value of the second contract.
It's not uniformly common right now - but I see plenty of teams doing it with a number of positions regularly.
It's the smart play for the franchise, but it makes maximizing a second contract very difficult for RBs, Safeties, most non-elite receivers, and a fair percentage of LBs depending on scheme.
Many teams just recycle the position every 3 or 4 years rather than award second contracts and I can see why the players would have a gripe.
It's all legal and not even really unethical given the construct, but I can see the players' side of the argument.
I think the issue is that the rookie contract is ridiculously undervalued. It starts off fine for the first 10 picks or so, but it bottoms out way too fast. This is especially an issue when taken together that most NFL players never get a 2nd contract, as average career length is like 3-4 years.
Problem is that NFLPA probably does not have the clout to get this changed, and to do so would require a major concessions like an 18 game season.
Blue and Cunningham....no!
Since we didn’t add a safety in the draft Tre Boston would be a good addition to the secondary.
(03-25-2019, 10:11 AM)ATLjag Wrote: [ -> ]Jeremy Parnell is still a free agent. Any chance the Jags bring him back? Might be a decent re-signing.
I was hoping for this before the draft but Jawaan better be a clear upgrade. If Parnell is cool with the league minimum, however, we could cut Cedric longlastname.
(04-28-2019, 11:48 AM)jjah34 Wrote: [ -> ]Since we didn’t add a safety in the draft Tre Boston would be a good addition to the secondary.
Yes I’m wondering why he’s still unsigned. He’s somewhat of a ballhawk. Maybe he defecated on Gus’s ice cream in Chargerville and word spread.
I wonder what it would take to get Karl Joseph from the Raiders. They signed Joyner and drafted Abram. Crazy to me with all the talent on the board and they have Joseph, they must love Abram
I wonder if we could get Joseph for a 4th?
