04-26-2019, 12:07 PM
04-26-2019, 12:11 PM
(04-26-2019, 12:07 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status...15808?s=21
Odd to not mention Risner. Yeah, I think a run on corners and WRs happen
04-26-2019, 12:22 PM
(04-26-2019, 12:11 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ](04-26-2019, 12:07 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status...15808?s=21
Odd to not mention Risner. Yeah, I think a run on corners and WRs happen
I think the “Jack of All trades - Master of none” label is slightly hurting him. I think he goes near the middle of round 2.
04-26-2019, 12:31 PM
(04-26-2019, 12:22 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]I think the “Jack of All trades - Master of none” label is slightly hurting him. I think he goes near the middle of round 2.
I think that's also what allowed Allen to fall to 7.
04-26-2019, 12:39 PM
(04-26-2019, 12:22 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ](04-26-2019, 12:11 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Odd to not mention Risner. Yeah, I think a run on corners and WRs happen
I think the “Jack of All trades - Master of none” label is slightly hurting him. I think he goes near the middle of round 2.
I dunno
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/dr...king-grade
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1...87744?s=19
04-26-2019, 01:03 PM
(04-26-2019, 12:31 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ](04-26-2019, 12:22 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]I think the “Jack of All trades - Master of none” label is slightly hurting him. I think he goes near the middle of round 2.
I think that's also what allowed Allen to fall to 7.
I’m not following. Allen is a sack connoisseur!
04-26-2019, 01:05 PM
17 sacks in 1 season in the SEC is rare
04-26-2019, 01:12 PM
(04-26-2019, 01:05 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]17 sacks in 1 season in the SEC is rare
It's more impressive when you consider how often he dropped into coverage. If he rushed full time, who knows how many more sacks he could have gotten.
04-26-2019, 01:16 PM
(04-26-2019, 01:12 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ](04-26-2019, 01:05 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]17 sacks in 1 season in the SEC is rare
It's more impressive when you consider how often he dropped into coverage. If he rushed full time, who knows how many more sacks he could have gotten.
Agreed, he really good against the run too which a lot of time edge rushers arent
04-26-2019, 01:30 PM
(04-26-2019, 12:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ](04-26-2019, 12:22 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]I think the “Jack of All trades - Master of none” label is slightly hurting him. I think he goes near the middle of round 2.
I dunno
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/dr...king-grade
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1...87744?s=19
I dunno. He’s on my “wants” list and I think he would be a staple along our line for years to come. I would Barry Sanders soon move to the podium if I were choosing between Rinser and Taylor.
04-26-2019, 02:12 PM
(04-26-2019, 01:03 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ](04-26-2019, 12:31 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I think that's also what allowed Allen to fall to 7.
I’m not following. Allen is a sack connoisseur!
And Risner is both a pass and run blocking connoisseur too. We're talking labels, and fair or not Allen got some tweener/versatility labels that were similar and might have caused him to drop a tad.
04-26-2019, 02:18 PM
(04-26-2019, 02:12 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ](04-26-2019, 01:03 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]I’m not following. Allen is a sack connoisseur!
And Risner is both a pass and run blocking connoisseur too. We're talking labels, and fair or not Allen got some tweener/versatility labels that were similar and might have caused him to drop a tad.
I don’t recall seeing anything like this in the scouting reports I read in him. Do you have a link?
04-26-2019, 02:22 PM
Risner even tested well at the combine on all the short shuttle, 3 cone drills so it's not as though he is unathletic. He may not have any "elite" physical traits but seems to be really good in every single aspect of the game. Durable, smart, tough, good at both run and pass blocking, athletic, etc... The more I keep reading about him it seems like a no brainer.
04-26-2019, 02:38 PM
(04-26-2019, 02:18 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t recall seeing anything like this in the scouting reports I read in him. Do you have a link?
I assume you've just followed his career. He didn't play with his hand in the dirt all that much, he has been good in coverage, he was lined up all over the place. Until and even into this season many people thought he was going to be more of a Woodyard or Trevathan in the NFL than a pass rusher. Even now people are saying he could play SAM in base and then EDGE in nickel. Jack of all trades is a very fair assessment.
04-26-2019, 02:51 PM
The bad parts of Josh Allens game are he isn't a power guy, doesn't have an inside move and can get washed out on runs too often even if he had high TFL numbers.
That doesn't matter too much considering how devastating he was as a pass rusher (could have easily topped 20 sacks last year if he was asked to rush the passer more) but they are ? marks so far. The Georgia games for instance he was handled quite a bit.
Still a quality player and good pick at 7. I'm glad they took him over Hock
That doesn't matter too much considering how devastating he was as a pass rusher (could have easily topped 20 sacks last year if he was asked to rush the passer more) but they are ? marks so far. The Georgia games for instance he was handled quite a bit.
Still a quality player and good pick at 7. I'm glad they took him over Hock
04-26-2019, 04:11 PM
(04-26-2019, 01:30 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ](04-26-2019, 12:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I dunno
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/dr...king-grade
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1...87744?s=19
I dunno. He’s on my “wants” list and I think he would be a staple along our line for years to come. I would Barry Sanders soon move to the podium if I were choosing between Rinser and Taylor.
Risner's position flexibility is definitely an asset. He can perform well at right tackle, guard or center. In addition to this, one of the networks (ESPN or NFL) did a great story on him and he is an exceptionally high character guy. He has developed a close relationship with a teen through the Make a Wish Foundation as well as a senior citizen in a nursing home (not sure how he got involved with this). This is obviously not more important than his ability to perform at a high level, but it sure won't hurt to have another high character guy. Allen appears to also be a high character guy who takes nothing for granted. After what we've seen from some of our players lately (i.e. Fournette), the locker room could benefit greatly from guys like this.
I'd certainly be very happy with anyone of these guys:
Risner
Ford
Taylor (if health concerns are overblown)
Irv Smith
The chances of all being gone before the 6th pick tonight are extremely low so I expect one to be a Jaguar by 7:30 pm. tonight.
04-26-2019, 04:28 PM
04-26-2019, 04:35 PM
what about a trade back, picking up a 5th?
I would hope we go A.J. Brown, Miles Sanders then Josh Oliver
I like Tyree Jackson in the 4th
I would hope we go A.J. Brown, Miles Sanders then Josh Oliver
I like Tyree Jackson in the 4th
04-26-2019, 04:39 PM
(04-26-2019, 04:35 PM)fredalwaysajag Wrote: [ -> ]what about a trade back, picking up a 5th?
I would hope we go A.J. Brown, Miles Sanders then Josh Oliver
I like Tyree Jackson in the 4th
If we trade back I want more than a 3th because some 1st round talent is still on the board
04-26-2019, 04:49 PM